Carbineer Archive
Thread: How carbineer is to other people.
SupaPook wrote:
"ROFL!!!! LOOK A MASTER CARBINEER!!! I thought they were dead!"
i think alot of people who consider carbineer a joke, and ineffective apparently have no clue how to use the skills in the carbineer profession. IMO carbineer takes some strategy to be effective, from landing state effects at the start, to knowing when to use a KD, and when to target action with legshot3 etc etc. Sense this takes some planning and some brains people just take things simple and revert back to a melee profession. I'll admit carbineer has its querks that label it the title "carbicide", but i'm patient enough to wait for the Combat Rebalance to smooth things out. I'm proud to wear my carbineer titles, cause i understand the profession and know how to use it in an effective way.
in a nutshell some people can't handle it when they just can't simply spam the same special to win!
I will consider re-visiting it after the combat nerf er upgrade. I do have a firend who is a carb and when we fight together I keep thinking he is getting beat up really really bad but then I remember he is just using specials.........
kinda sad when I can whip out an unaramed hit1 and do 1000 points of damage and see a green 92 over my head when crippling shot on average does about the same damage but costs 250-300...........
sniffle, sniffle
I miss my laser carbine........
do you call it a nerf cause they are going to try to bring the other professions out of the gutter? leaving TK no long the lone "so called uber" profession?(just messin) Well anywoo the CU is supose to rework HAM and special costs so perhaps you will find new love for carbines, im happy with it for now, but i would love to use crippling shot without buffs!
cleekjc wrote:
I droped carb for TK to go along side my MCH (I decided on only 1 usless prefession at a time, lol) . I liked carb it was a cool prfession, untill I found out I was left out of allot of content, (My self and a friend got beat up pretty bad at the squill caves even with pets) I can solo sharnafs unbuffed in ubese with no pets as a 4/2/1/2 TK, (or less) something I have no hope of as a MCarb beacuse of special costs..............I will consider re-visiting it after the combat nerf er upgrade. I do have a firend who is a carb and when we fight together I keep thinking he is getting beat up really really bad but then I remember he is just using specials.........kinda sad when I can whip out an unaramed hit1 and do 1000 points of damage and see a green 92 over my head when crippling shot on average does about the same damage but costs 250-300...........sniffle, sniffleI miss my laser carbine........
TAfirehawk wrote:
I got another screenie of me and 2 different Master Carbineers with titles up.....Chilastra is full of Carbineers.....we got over a dozen
Hellz yeah!
/bodyslam
Jose Kinematix
Master Bounty Hunter
Master Carbineer
Message Edited by GeneralCho on 01-05-2005 07:15 PM
GeneralCho wrote:
I don't think speed is so much our problem as weapon choice. We NEED more damage types to compete with high level NPC's. Without them, we'll continue to sit on our thumbs shooting gorgs while we could be going onto the vette or chasing down NS elders.
Jose Kinematix
Master Bounty Hunter
Master Carbineer
Message Edited by GeneralCho on 01-05-2005 07:15 PM
ROFLMAO
You say that because you are a BH.....and don't get me started on THEM!!!!!
AdmiralSpy wrote:
XwingRogue3 wrote:
Have you ever played Pikeman before? From your post it sounds like no. As a Pikeman I hate DOT's and it's sad that pikes have become the dot craze that it is. As far as real pike fighters without dot's, you won't find many and if they are then it takes a heck of a lot of work to win a duel. I couldn't help but laugh at your comment that our area dizzies and posture changes are overpowered. By you saying that there is no skill in Pikeman proves that either you have been beat by a few pikers or if you did the profession then you just sucked at it. Your comment about our rep was uncalled for as well.
Actually I have. I was 4443 Pikeman before I dropped it in favor or Carbineer. It is a very difficult profession to play as I stated in in my post, but as soon as you speedcap, it loses any negatives and instantly becomes a top profession out there. Call me ignorant or not, there are several Pikeman in my guild, I fight Pikeman almost daily - I know what the profession boils down to.
You're right - not all Pikemen use DoTs, but all PvPing Pikemen do. I apologize if my post came out rather harsh, but I spend about 95% of my time online in SWG either actively PvPing or building towards it. In terms of PvE, I can see Pikeman as a generally balanced profession.. their ability to tank is not too bad but their defenses are somewhat low.
In terms of specials in PvP, however, it boils down to very few. I think in PvP terms, and I when I see a Pikeman, I know exactly what I'm up against. As for the actual states, why is it that a TK can DizzyHit me for 5 minutes without any luck, but a Pikeman can in 2-3 seconds? Why is it that I never get knocked down by even a MBH/Carbineer, but go straight to the floor when I'm up against a Pikeman? My KD defense is 115 and my dizzy defense is 102 - you do the math.
Pikeman as non-DoTTers? In an idealistic PvP world, maybe. Not everyone runs around with a crafted VL.. 99% of the PvPing Pikemen I know carry 800+ damage Pikes, 400+ mind tick lances, and 300-800 health/action ticks. They run around, intimidate, land their DoTs, warcry, and then peace out and keep their distance.
That's why my guild's Pikemen do - that's what the opposition Pikemen do: that's what PvPing Pikemen do. I'm not suggesting there's any lack of talent or skill. Knowing how PvP works alone takes months.. but to assume that the profession itself requires more skill than say Pistoleer or Carbineer for PvP purposes is simply ridiculous. Pikemen can't damage anything without looted weapons, and as such, their entire arsenal is usually comprised of high end equipment. Flame me all you want, it's the truth - any seasoned PvPer knows this.
I myself considered going Pikeman if it wasn't for the simple FOTMness of the profession. It's the same with Fencers.. the numbers don't lie. PvPers pick Pikeman because it is simply that good of a standalone profession with the right equipment. It happened with CMs, it happened with Riflemen.. it happened with Fencers.. these days its pikes.
[added] And by the way, I admire your resilience to stay a DoT-free Pikeman. Your profession's accuracy and speed are indeed very low and obtaining the necessary Defense SEAs to complete your profession's innate lack is a difficult task. But let's not kid ourselves into believing this profession is underdog and needs balancing at the PvP level. In terms of casual play, yes.. it could use some help. In terms of hardcore PvP, which is the playstyle that I adhere to, it's a completely different ball game.
Message Edited by AdmiralSpy on 01-03-2005 08:52 PM
i'm a non dot pikeman, but i found i suck really bad at it.... i'm 4 2 4 4 and i die really quickly using my pike and i don't know why. if i stand there melee with my carbine i do better, guess i just need more experience. and i do have my 950 dmg LVA and just got cheated out of my VL, but i find carbineer to be very effective in PvE, never did much PvP. i think carbineer can deal out some of the best damage in PvE and hopefully even more so after the combat balance if they fix speed.