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Thread: Galaxy Wide Vendor Search on TC POLL
I'm willing to bet that many of the crafters you mention are friends or guild members. I've seen a range of pricing for various crafting professions that is mirrored in-game. I don't see that there are more expensive crafters on the boards than in-game. At least for my server.
boceifus2000 wrote:
maigy wrote:
Wow, so you really don't care if this ruins the game for a lot people. But anyway my point is, I dont like it and I wont be crafting, and many people feel the same way and they will stop crafting, and you know what most combat players really won't care because the fewbigtime crafters can easily supply the entire server by themselves, but dont be surprised when even fewer people are playing teh game after this change happens.
2. Who says the price you or others set for your items is the going rate?I don't have to price my items the same or close to yours if I don't want too. The way I see it, I price things at what I THINK they are worth, not what someone else SAYS the item is worth.Don't like it, don't craft. If I don't like your price, I wont buy, plain and simple. There are under cutters in the real world as well as the game. deal with it, adjust, and move on.
Message Edited by maigy on 03-18-2005 02:57 PM
I have been playing this game since launch, you know how many times I have heard that since then? There have been many changes since launch that have "ruined" the game for a lot of people but they still paying their 15 a month AND buying the expansions.
There are many more people that play than you think, not all of the post on the boards. Don't think just because some of the crafters post on the boards they are the most well known, I knowmany that don't and got "well known" crafters beat for buisness volumn and prices. Many don't post on the boards for a reason, so don't limit yourself to the ones that do.The ones that postare generally the most expensive people on your server even though there stuff isn't any better than others that don't.
Message Edited by boceifus2000 on 03-18-2005 04:26 PM
Message Edited by boceifus2000 on 03-18-2005 04:29 PM
Wow, so you really don't care if this ruins the game for a lot people. But anyway my point is, I dont like it and I wont be crafting, and many people feel the same way and they will stop crafting, and you know what most combat players really won't care because the fewbigtime crafters can easily supply the entire server by themselves, but dont be surprised when even fewer people are playing teh game after this change happens.
2. Who says the price you or others set for your items is the going rate?I don't have to price my items the same or close to yours if I don't want too. The way I see it, I price things at what I THINK they are worth, not what someone else SAYS the item is worth.Don't like it, don't craft. If I don't like your price, I wont buy, plain and simple. There are under cutters in the real world as well as the game. deal with it, adjust, and move on.
Message Edited by maigy on 03-18-2005 02:57 PM
Ackew wrote:
maigy wrote:
Wow, so you really don't care if this ruins the game for a lot people. But anyway my point is, I dont like it and I wont be crafting, and many people feel the same way and they will stop crafting, and you know what most combat players really won't care because the fewbigtime crafters can easily supply the entire server by themselves, but dont be surprised when even fewer people are playing teh game after this change happens.
2. Who says the price you or others set for your items is the going rate?I don't have to price my items the same or close to yours if I don't want too. The way I see it, I price things at what I THINK they are worth, not what someone else SAYS the item is worth.Don't like it, don't craft. If I don't like your price, I wont buy, plain and simple. There are under cutters in the real world as well as the game. deal with it, adjust, and move on.
Message Edited by maigy on 03-18-2005 02:57 PM
Thats the trouble with the WANT IT NOW players like him they DON'T care WHO's game thier ruin just so long as THEY GET WHAT THEY WANT AND GET IT NOW.
The thing is when this goes live they will have to spend EVEN MORE TIME trying to find things then they did BEFORE. Go have a look at the bazzar now you will find it has about1200 odd itmes in the inorganic minerals section. How many do you think will be in there when everyone and his dog who has business 3 and higher sticks his vendor on there. TEN OF THOUSHANDS. Do you REALLY want to wade though 100's of pages of crap just to find the one thing you want. It will be even worse if your trying to find a factory crate of something there will most likely be MILLIONS of them on the bazzar.
Then of course there will be an outbreak of silly names as everyone tried to get his item on the 1st page. We will see things like aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaachair or !"&* chair and then thier the people who will include the price and stats in the title so people CAN compare prices galaxy wide.
Strange how boceifus has NO crafting profession in his sig so as usual we have someone who IS NOT crafter trying to tell us crafters what to do. How about they make a mission terminal which instead of just giveing 2 missions any time you like only has ONE mission thet everyone who wants to take it has to BID on and the lowest one gets it. how does that sound? Sounds great to me. With this terminal only those who don't need the money from the missions could get any.
BTW a LOT of people I have talked to who do NOT post on here, and theywill do excalty what you said they DO NOT like this and and WILL NOT craft and they WILL quit the game. Please go try soloing a elder nighsister with NO ARMOUR, WEAPONS, BUFFS, FOOD, OR ANY THING ELSE THAN CAN BE CRAFTED AND SEE HOW FAR YOU GET.
Little do you know I was a master weaponsmith for over a yearand made millions. I understand and know more than you think. Since when do you have to be a crafter to post an opinion on this subject? Last time i checked, you don't.
Youdoom sayers arejust too full of yourselves to stop and think. Or do you think your the only one with a brain? Did any of you ever ask the devs if there would be a item limit that will show on the bazaar? Probably not because you are all going to quit. Gimmie a break.
If you take time to actually READ what the update says:
- Each vendor owner can decide whether to allow his or her vendors to be searchable in the market. There is an option for vendor owners to turn on/off the search option on his or her vendor. The vendor owner will be able to find current search option settings for each of his or her vendor(s)
- When a vendor owner turns on the search option, a player should be able to go to any bazaarand list all items owned by this vendor
- When a vendor owner turns off the search option, the vendor is no longer listed in the galaxy-wide network search. With this search option turned off, vendor owners have the ability to conduct private auctions. Players will need to physically go to the vendor and click "Use Vendor" to list items from this vendor.
That tells me that the VENDERS, not items will be listed, then when you click on the name of the vender that particular venders items will be seen, not zillions of others.
Message Edited by boceifus2000 on 03-19-2005 04:24 AM
Message Edited by boceifus2000 on 03-19-2005 04:26 AM
Message Edited by boceifus2000 on 03-19-2005 04:42 AM
Message Edited by boceifus2000 on 03-19-2005 04:44 AM
boceifus2000 wrote:
That tells me that the VENDERS, not items will be listed, then when you click on the name of the vender that particular venders items will be seen, not zillions of others.
RelicOMO wrote:
boceifus2000 wrote:That tells me that the VENDERS, not items will be listed, then when you click on the name of the vender that particular venders items will be seen, not zillions of others.
If only that were actually true.But it's not.
Yea that would be a nice system.
As it stands on Friday afternoon the Vendor Location tab now shows the prices on the listing screen and you can sort by them (well as much as you can sort in that screwy interface)
HOWEVER, the buy option has been removed. You can no longer purchase vendor items from the bazaar. You have to go and purchase them at the vendor itself once you have obtained a waypoint.
boceifus2000 wrote:
Little do you know I was a master weaponsmith for over a yearand made millions. I understand and know more than you think. Since when do you have to be a crafter to post an opinion on this subject? Last time i checked, you don't.
Youdoom sayers arejust too full of yourselves to stop and think. Or do you think your the only one with a brain? Did any of you ever ask the devs if there would be a item limit that will show on the bazaar? Probably not because you are all going to quit. Gimmie a break.
If you take time to actually READ what the update says:
- Each vendor owner can decide whether to allow his or her vendors to be searchable in the market. There is an option for vendor owners to turn on/off the search option on his or her vendor. The vendor owner will be able to find current search option settings for each of his or her vendor(s)
- When a vendor owner turns on the search option, a player should be able to go to any bazaarand list all items owned by this vendor
- When a vendor owner turns off the search option, the vendor is no longer listed in the galaxy-wide network search. With this search option turned off, vendor owners have the ability to conduct private auctions. Players will need to physically go to the vendor and click "Use Vendor" to list items from this vendor.
That tells me that the VENDERS, not items will be listed, then when you click on the name of the vender that particular venders items will be seen, not zillions of others.
Perhaps you've missed the NUMEROUS posts of people who have bothered to get on TC and test the system? You are not correct. You see EVERYTHING, and NOT on a per vendor basis.
Message Edited by KlingonUnicorn on 03-19-2005 01:21 PM
KlingonUnicorn wrote:
What I find interesting is that no one seems phased at the frustration players (doesnt matter what profession)have about shopping in the game and going to your empty vendors. Does this not bother anyone or am I missing something here? Do you enjoy clicking on a vendor and see nothing? Do you enjoy the endless hours of searching planet to planet to find empty vendors that were advertised on the map saying they had something you are looking for to find nothing?
Message Edited by KlingonUnicorn on 03-19-2005 01:21 PM
Actually as far as I can tell about 100% of the poeple don't like the fact that you sometimes have to spend hours looking for an item. However, I really don't know why anyone would, if I want something I go look at 2-3 stores of people that I know and if I don't find it I send out emails to about 4 or 5 people and then I continue playing. Granted this doesnt always work and if it doesnt then I just accept the fact that I am not going to get any thoranium steel from the last shift on Radiant that was about 6 months ago, and there simply is no more thoranium steel in the galaxy andthus, Thermal detonators cant be made.
Sorry about that, anyway, most if not all people advocate a new system, my biggest complaint is that. Most people believe that they could implement a better system than the galaxy wide vendor search, and there has been numerous threads about alternate systems, but SOE would rather do this because it will take the least amouont of work to implement given the existing system.
Scudder wrote:
The vendor search went live and the galaxy didn't come crashing down around us. To anyone that has actually used the feature it's very apparent that it will have little effect on prices since items listed are so random that comparing like items is next to impossible.
),or B) they don't havea regular crafter (such as AS or WS) that they buy from. For everyday shopping it will bebear to use.
Scudder wrote:
The vendor search went live and the galaxy didn't come crashing down around us. To anyone that has actually used the feature it's very apparent that it will have little effect on prices since items listed are so random that comparing like items is next to impossible.