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MikeMonger1 wrote:

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Bumpity wrote:

it should take months to earn millions of credits. No other game lets you become mega rich in a week (or did) outside of sonic the hedgehog or something equally easy and rated for kids under 7 .

Define "mega-rich". Remember, you're dealing with an economy where food can cost 100-250k per crate, grenades can cost 100-200k per crate, a good suit of armor can cost 250k, etc. Under those conditions, can having 1 million be considered "mega-rich"?

well considering that before the solo group correction a player was earning 3-4 million credits a day in less than a week from 1st log in,i would say mega rich is the guys with 100's of millions.

Did you ever solo group? Obviously not. People who never solo grouped like to throw out the 3-4 million credit figure. WRONG. If you were VERY efficient, you could make, at most, slightly over 1 million credits in one buff session. While the lairs fall quickly, you also need to factor in travel times and getting the missions to come up on the terminal, not too far out, in the same direction. That sometimes was a pain.

Also, if you'd done solo groups, you'd know that 99% of the people who did them DIDN'T earn 100's of millions of credits from them. They earned enough to get buy for a week or two, then moved on and did something else.

I used to avg 3-4 mil per session. so did everyone else i know.guess your not all that quick.

And a new player wont need all this stuff you supreme types needhe is "new" i dont expect to see him ganking rancors on day 2.

Canape is "supreme type" stuff? Thermal detonators are "supreme type stuff"? Brandy is "supremy type" stuff? I was a newb before solo groups ever existed, way back in the day, and back then, I STILL used it.

new players need brandy why? they have no specials to spam... learn the system

He with no buffs no armor and only a fewboxes ofrifleman i managed to do rebel themepark , jabbas themepark and nyms , dont blame dependance on lame crutches like food as a have to have,

Wow. How off topic. Didn't know you actually ground cash from the themeparks?

I wasnt talking about cash was talking about how you dont need armor/food/drink or a krayt gun to play thegame. everyone else got that but you. so i give you a special seat next to the teacher.

its just harder to do without all the extras and it is an extra.Name a game where you started grinding the end game 4 days after starting off?

The end game is jedi. It takes a long, long time to get there. If it takes 2 weeks to grind out master of an elite combat prof, and any elite combat prof can take on, say, Mokk's and Janta's, why should it take months to take on Mokk's and Janta's? I'm confused.

it will take even more time again after CU enjoy , everyone but you has noticed that combat is borked and no one should be able to solo 90% of the in game mobs.The devs ARE slowing the game down because of 2 week FOTM kid spammer i win buttons are out of control. here come take that seat i offered you last paragraph.

WAIT lol edit this in... 2 weeks for 1st master combat? what are you smoking? master combat typein 3-4 days tops. glowy 5 days form log in is easy there a guide on how to do it by the way in a public forum. i was killing jantas with 0/2/4/2 tk easy as anything. do you play at all? do you play well?

News players will NEVER compete with established players. now after said new player has been here 6 months then yes he can start to compete, but he isnt a new player anymore.

So your answer to the question of, how can a newer player compete with an established player is: They shouldn't be able to. It should be completely based on time spent. Ok. Lots would agree with you. Next time, just say that.

i said it in prievious posts , aparently you didnt get it, had to flame to prove that you cant be the only one who didnt get it and turned out looking really bad here, so Ifelt the need to go in depth lol. again just for you im here for your . YOURRRRR so speshul.

i was a new player to this server (bria) like 11 weeks ago , thats a tought economy to break into. I was a novice artisan i spent my nights surveying resources and my days making the things i could until i put out 4 personal harvestors (BER 1 at that). now im a MAS and run 5 heavy harvestors and 3 factories. If a crafter with zero combat power can work his way up to beig comfortable you combat types should have even less trouble as you can do what i did PLUS do missions for extra cash.

Well, see, the thing is, we're talking about the people who are primarily combat types here, not crafters. How crafters make money isn't really the issue here.

re -read last line. to start you have to do more , i was working up crafting and rifles ... once i hit MAS i dropped all my combat. so whgats wrong with picking up a little crafter to start? i had to pick up combat.

So, your answer to "How can a combat type make money?" is...."Be a crafter."

no its, diversify until you find your niche do a little of both... are you really this simple?

Its been said many times collect creature resources , easy alot of us post on the forums or spam what we need in cities. (150 cpu for wooly anyone lol) go kill little critters and harvest some, even 100 units = 15000 cr and how hard is a 100 units to collect?, oh and at the same time your doing this you are getting better at your chosen combat type (basically i am paying you to xp here) this is always good.

Congrats. The issue of selling creature resources has been bought up 10, 20 times already in this thread alone. You're doing EXACTLY what I told Acip people like yourself would be doing...repeating the same things over and over again, not even wasting time trying to address the main point.

im sorry the main point seems to me to be WHAAAAAAAA i cant afford to buy RIS armor and a scythe and ive only been playing 6 days .... this is one of the fastest ways to make money , needs to be mentioned

Of course you would think that's the point of the post. Because you're having too much fun sprouting off things everyone already knows, all in an attempt to belittle someone for asking "how can I make money", when they never even asked that in the first place.

aparently everone didnt know , im sorry i dont assume i know what everyone else does. i realize that a new player doesnt know things. and lets look at the title of the post againto clarify " ok how do fighters make money, now?" seems like he asked for this. guess you missed that too.

i mean come on this is just one example of what can be done .... hell go to the trade forums and offer your self as a delievry boy for someone selling loads of things (huge money here actually) since alot of us dont want to have to run all over to every single planet after every auction to find vendros to drop stuff off. See a big list of things being sold by someone send them a PM asking if they want someone trustworthy to deliver the items, and convice them thats you.

Ok good. That's a viable suggestion which hasn't been bought up yet.

A person only has to look to make money, this i took from a list of about 100 great idea somewhere else on the forums.

And if you'll recall the original point of the post, the question at hand was creative, non-boring ways to make money. People look on the forums for ways, as well! Good job! You ALMOST caught on here! List some more of the 100 great ideas you have, and maybe, just MAYBE, you'll actually contribute to this thread, instead of being another "bash the ex-solo-group whiner" person.

again what are you reading they arent my 100 ideas says that clearly in the paragraph? dude is english a 2nd language? And i am the ex solo group player.

im new to bria not new to the game. look at me on valcyn over 200m never crafted a single item ran nothing but solo missions and the occasional guide thru warrens. i dont play there anymore because i was stupidand lost most of it and needed a fresh start.

this is stupid to know but with just novice brawler a suit of armor (donated to me and not that great) and a set of free buffs around teh 1900 range a doc threw on me as i ran by,you can kill a single quenker (takes like 20 mins tho) and jump several boxes of xp up. by the time you hit unarmed 2 you can run quenker missions (about 8 missions total in a buff set) lets see 5100 per mission x8 = 40,800 credits - 15000 cr for buffs you made 25k and some change and are alot closer to master combat profession. as you get better you get faster and make more money.

Yes, we know. You can make up to 300k per buff session doing 10-12k terminal missions.

umm combat type right .... focus on fighting if im correct ... means you fight to get ahead? to get paid?

when you specialise in fighting how can you complain all i have to do is fight ... well um you chose that path dont want to fight? dont be a fighter. simple easy direct ... oh you want to fight? whats the complaint again?

Oh. My. God. What's the title of the thread? Read it again. Did you read the title again? Seems like english to me. Could be wrong. Are you recognizing it as some other language or something? You SEEM to be able to read.....

title reads ok, how do FIGHTERS make money now? i relate fighters to comabt types. apprantly you cant read well. i guess you need it spelled out even simpler

here you go FIGHTER"S HAVE TO FIGHT hence the name fighter... i dont know many professional fighters that really are just wal-mart clerks.

a dont see a lot of new players hurting for cash all that much anyway (join my town get 25k a house a swoop! spam ) and even then most new guys i do see joining my guild get it set up ans start cranking out 100k a day within days a week at most and are starting to loan other players money or donate to town upkeep. Money is so easy in star wars if your not lazy. Combat = fighting for what you want .. its why its combat. Crafter making things others want .. pick a way to go here.

100k per day. Say you want that uber scythe, so you can pvp. Lets say it's going for 8 million. You're talking 80 days, are a little under 3 months. Of doing nothing but grinding cash. So you can buy one item. Which you'll need if you want to compete in the higher end PvP. Lots of newer players aren't going to want to wait that long.

Again i go back t my main point it SHOULD take months before you are ready to take part in HIGH END end game play from anything like PVEto PVP.

Why? Under the current system, you're an elite master in 2 weeks. Why wait months and months to actually take advantage of it. Change the system so that it takes months and months to be an elite master, and I'd agree with you.

not up to date are you lol. go educate yourself on some other forums please.

hell it took longer to beat kotor than it takes to template out and jump into high endPVP as a stacker. How long did it take you to get that 1st level 60 char on EQ? how long on DAOC? how long on SB? how long on AO? how long on old a$$ UO to hit 100% piercing? how long on any game to reach the end game level of play? This game is stupidly easy as it is now.

Uh. Yeah. Your point?

im tired of pointing out the obvious for him. Anyone else care to try. He is prolly beyond hope or someone's little brother. I cant really see someone like this.

A real player who has played other games knows that you dont get to play with the bigger kids until you put in your time,

ALL HEAR THIS! If you haven't been playing as long as this dude, or if you haven't played as many other games as this dude, you're not a "REAL" player. Sorry to let you all know that....lmao

wow dude your angry and missed a rhetorical quote that im sure everone else understood. MMORPG's. I didnt invent them i just play them. I never claimed to be the end all be all there but i do know they all share a common strutcture.this has to be the highest bit of insecurity ive ever seen in a single person.

this just hasnt been the case for SWG. if your have never played another MMORPG before coming here ,guess what star wars is like playing mario race carsand ever other game is halo 2when compared to advancing and gaining levels ormoney with every other game out there.

Sounds pretty crappy. Why do you play again?

laughing at people like you.who want so bad to be informed , on top , in the scoop, yet can even see past the you dont think like me so you cant have a valid point attitude they carry. Please i ask you not as a flame but get a little more informed about what you talk about. read things carefully 2 or 3 times if you have to even before posting again.

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wow ... i wonder if just acted that way to make me type all that again?

Message Edited by Bumpity on 01-21-2005 08:13 PM

I just read through all 70 posts, and noticed something; no one even mentioned smuggler. If you have a combat class, you must have either brawler or marksman, making it about 35 sp tops to get slicing 1. Which is all you need to slice terminals. Before they nerfed solo-groups, I could get mok shaman missions up to 48-50k by slicing (granted, this was in a city with improved economy). You can turn those 12k missions of yours into 17-18k missions. Still doesn't hold a candle to sologroups, but that 50% increase certainly helps.

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Bumpity wrote:

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MikeMonger1 wrote:

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Bumpity wrote:

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Bumpity wrote:

it should take months to earn millions of credits. No other game lets you become mega rich in a week (or did) outside of sonic the hedgehog or something equally easy and rated for kids under 7 .

Define "mega-rich". Remember, you're dealing with an economy where food can cost 100-250k per crate, grenades can cost 100-200k per crate, a good suit of armor can cost 250k, etc. Under those conditions, can having 1 million be considered "mega-rich"?

well considering that before the solo group correction a player was earning 3-4 million credits a day in less than a week from 1st log in,i would say mega rich is the guys with 100's of millions.

Did you ever solo group? Obviously not. People who never solo grouped like to throw out the 3-4 million credit figure. WRONG. If you were VERY efficient, you could make, at most, slightly over 1 million credits in one buff session. While the lairs fall quickly, you also need to factor in travel times and getting the missions to come up on the terminal, not too far out, in the same direction. That sometimes was a pain.

Also, if you'd done solo groups, you'd know that 99% of the people who did them DIDN'T earn 100's of millions of credits from them. They earned enough to get buy for a week or two, then moved on and did something else.

I used to avg 3-4 mil per session. so did everyone else i know.guess your not all that quick.

Really? Amazing. Let's do the math here. During the solo group heyday, the average buff lasted 3 hours. That's 180 minutes. To make 4 million, at 30k per mission, you'd have had to do 133 missions.That equates to one mission every 1.3 minutes, or roughly 80 seconds. You're saying you were able to get two missions close to each other, AND bike out to them, AND kill the critters, AND take out the lairs, AND bike back to the terminal, in about 160 seconds? Ok. That's believable. I guess.

And a new player wont need all this stuff you supreme types needhe is "new" i dont expect to see him ganking rancors on day 2.

Canape is "supreme type" stuff? Thermal detonators are "supreme type stuff"? Brandy is "supremy type" stuff? I was a newb before solo groups ever existed, way back in the day, and back then, I STILL used it.

new players need brandy why? they have no specials to spam... learn the system

Well, when I was grinding out surveying, brandy would have been a big help. Just an example.

He with no buffs no armor and only a fewboxes ofrifleman i managed to do rebel themepark , jabbas themepark and nyms , dont blame dependance on lame crutches like food as a have to have,

Wow. How off topic. Didn't know you actually ground cash from the themeparks?

I wasnt talking about cash was talking about how you dont need armor/food/drink or a krayt gun to play thegame. everyone else got that but you. so i give you a special seat next to the teacher.

That's funny, because everyone else has been talking about cash here. The theme parks are amazingly easy. Everyone knows that. AND, you don't make a lot of cash doing them.

its just harder to do without all the extras and it is an extra.Name a game where you started grinding the end game 4 days after starting off?

The end game is jedi. It takes a long, long time to get there. If it takes 2 weeks to grind out master of an elite combat prof, and any elite combat prof can take on, say, Mokk's and Janta's, why should it take months to take on Mokk's and Janta's? I'm confused.

it will take even more time again after CU enjoy , everyone but you has noticed that combat is borked and no one should be able to solo 90% of the in game mobs.The devs ARE slowing the game down because of 2 week FOTM kid spammer i win buttons are out of control. here come take that seat i offered you last paragraph.

WAIT lol edit this in... 2 weeks for 1st master combat? what are you smoking? master combat typein 3-4 days tops. glowy 5 days form log in is easy there a guide on how to do it by the way in a public forum. i was killing jantas with 0/2/4/2 tk easy as anything. do you play at all? do you play well?

There it is! The CU! When is that coming out again? And I'm curious...how exactly does the CU relate to the current system? Oh, that's right...it completely re-does it! Oh, and why did it take me two weeks to master my first elite combat prof? Because I was taking my time, having fun, and trying to figure out how to get the most out of the prof. Weren't you condemning people for NOT doing that earlier? But congrats...since you're gloating about making master in 3 days, I guess you know how to do the mindless power grind!

News players will NEVER compete with established players. now after said new player has been here 6 months then yes he can start to compete, but he isnt a new player anymore.

So your answer to the question of, how can a newer player compete with an established player is: They shouldn't be able to. It should be completely based on time spent. Ok. Lots would agree with you. Next time, just say that.

i said it in prievious posts , aparently you didnt get it, had to flame to prove that you cant be the only one who didnt get it and turned out looking really bad here, so Ifelt the need to go in depth lol. again just for you im here for your . YOURRRRR so speshul.

Uh, and what we were looking for is, ways that the newer player could maybe AVOID the eternal game of catch up. See, some people like to DISCUSS, come up with ideas, and CONTRIBUTE. You, on the other hand, like to condemn the ex solo groupers.

i was a new player to this server (bria) like 11 weeks ago , thats a tought economy to break into. I was a novice artisan i spent my nights surveying resources and my days making the things i could until i put out 4 personal harvestors (BER 1 at that). now im a MAS and run 5 heavy harvestors and 3 factories. If a crafter with zero combat power can work his way up to beig comfortable you combat types should have even less trouble as you can do what i did PLUS do missions for extra cash.

Well, see, the thing is, we're talking about the people who are primarily combat types here, not crafters. How crafters make money isn't really the issue here.

re -read last line. to start you have to do more , i was working up crafting and rifles ... once i hit MAS i dropped all my combat. so whgats wrong with picking up a little crafter to start? i had to pick up combat.

So, your answer to "How can a combat type make money?" is...."Be a crafter."

no its, diversify until you find your niche do a little of both... are you really this simple?

Some people HATE crafting. I know I do now. Why should people do something they hate, in a game? If you hate it, then it's not fun. And if it's not fun, it's not a game. It's work. Sorry, despite what might be in that head of yours, not EVERYONE wants to follow your path.I like fighting. Why should I spend my game time trying to push landspeeders that I didn't want to make in the first place?

Its been said many times collect creature resources , easy alot of us post on the forums or spam what we need in cities. (150 cpu for wooly anyone lol) go kill little critters and harvest some, even 100 units = 15000 cr and how hard is a 100 units to collect?, oh and at the same time your doing this you are getting better at your chosen combat type (basically i am paying you to xp here) this is always good.

Congrats. The issue of selling creature resources has been bought up 10, 20 times already in this thread alone. You're doing EXACTLY what I told Acip people like yourself would be doing...repeating the same things over and over again, not even wasting time trying to address the main point.

im sorry the main point seems to me to be WHAAAAAAAA i cant afford to buy RIS armor and a scythe and ive only been playing 6 days .... this is one of the fastest ways to make money , needs to be mentioned

Of course you would think that's the point of the post. Because you're having too much fun sprouting off things everyone already knows, all in an attempt to belittle someone for asking "how can I make money", when they never even asked that in the first place.

aparently everone didnt know , im sorry i dont assume i know what everyone else does. i realize that a new player doesnt know things. and lets look at the title of the post againto clarify " ok how do fighters make money, now?" seems like he asked for this. guess you missed that too.

Yeah. You never got past the title before you went off on your little tirades....

i mean come on this is just one example of what can be done .... hell go to the trade forums and offer your self as a delievry boy for someone selling loads of things (huge money here actually) since alot of us dont want to have to run all over to every single planet after every auction to find vendros to drop stuff off. See a big list of things being sold by someone send them a PM asking if they want someone trustworthy to deliver the items, and convice them thats you.

Ok good. That's a viable suggestion which hasn't been bought up yet.

A person only has to look to make money, this i took from a list of about 100 great idea somewhere else on the forums.

And if you'll recall the original point of the post, the question at hand was creative, non-boring ways to make money. People look on the forums for ways, as well! Good job! You ALMOST caught on here! List some more of the 100 great ideas you have, and maybe, just MAYBE, you'll actually contribute to this thread, instead of being another "bash the ex-solo-group whiner" person.

again what are you reading they arent my 100 ideas says that clearly in the paragraph? dude is english a 2nd language? And i am the ex solo group player.

Uh, if you read the ideas somewhere, then you HAVE the ideas in that head of yours. You are in possession of them. Sorry....I misused one word. Hey, what were those ideas again? You keep talking about them. They sound wonderful! So many of them, too!

im new to bria not new to the game. look at me on valcyn over 200m never crafted a single item ran nothing but solo missions and the occasional guide thru warrens. i dont play there anymore because i was stupidand lost most of it and needed a fresh start.

Why would you keep doing nothing but run solo missions after the first 50 million or so? It must have been awfully repetitive and boring. You're the only person I know who spent two months or more (at 4 million a day..do the math) doing solo missions. Most people I know got bored with them LONG before that.

this is stupid to know but with just novice brawler a suit of armor (donated to me and not that great) and a set of free buffs around teh 1900 range a doc threw on me as i ran by,you can kill a single quenker (takes like 20 mins tho) and jump several boxes of xp up. by the time you hit unarmed 2 you can run quenker missions (about 8 missions total in a buff set) lets see 5100 per mission x8 = 40,800 credits - 15000 cr for buffs you made 25k and some change and are alot closer to master combat profession. as you get better you get faster and make more money.

Yes, we know. You can make up to 300k per buff session doing 10-12k terminal missions.

umm combat type right .... focus on fighting if im correct ... means you fight to get ahead? to get paid?

when you specialise in fighting how can you complain all i have to do is fight ... well um you chose that path dont want to fight? dont be a fighter. simple easy direct ... oh you want to fight? whats the complaint again?

Oh. My. God. What's the title of the thread? Read it again. Did you read the title again? Seems like english to me. Could be wrong. Are you recognizing it as some other language or something? You SEEM to be able to read.....

title reads ok, how do FIGHTERS make money now? i relate fighters to comabt types. apprantly you cant read well. i guess you need it spelled out even simpler

Your point in this little attempt to be condescending? And you know what the funny part is? Your main response to the question was....don't be a fighter. But I'm the one who can't read well.

here you go FIGHTER"S HAVE TO FIGHT hence the name fighter... i dont know many professional fighters that really are just wal-mart clerks.

Again, I THINK you're trying to be condescending, but you're missing the mark. All the contributing people (Mousepad, for example) have given wonderful ideas on how FIGHTERS can make money FIGHTING. That's what we're looking for. We're not looking for..."be a crafter."

a dont see a lot of new players hurting for cash all that much anyway (join my town get 25k a house a swoop! spam ) and even then most new guys i do see joining my guild get it set up ans start cranking out 100k a day within days a week at most and are starting to loan other players money or donate to town upkeep. Money is so easy in star wars if your not lazy. Combat = fighting for what you want .. its why its combat. Crafter making things others want .. pick a way to go here.

100k per day. Say you want that uber scythe, so you can pvp. Lets say it's going for 8 million. You're talking 80 days, are a little under 3 months. Of doing nothing but grinding cash. So you can buy one item. Which you'll need if you want to compete in the higher end PvP. Lots of newer players aren't going to want to wait that long.

Again i go back t my main point it SHOULD take months before you are ready to take part in HIGH END end game play from anything like PVEto PVP.

Why? Under the current system, you're an elite master in 2 weeks. Why wait months and months to actually take advantage of it. Change the system so that it takes months and months to be an elite master, and I'd agree with you.

not up to date are you lol. go educate yourself on some other forums please.

Hmm. Up to date. Sometime, we don't know exactly when..could be next week, could be 2 months from now, ALPHA testing on the CU begins. After a few months of that, BETA testing begins. After 2 or more months of that, the CU goes LIVE. That about sum it up? So, your point here is, we should be playing like the CU is ALREADY live, so that when it hits months from now, we'll be ready? That's not a very good point.

hell it took longer to beat kotor than it takes to template out and jump into high endPVP as a stacker. How long did it take you to get that 1st level 60 char on EQ? how long on DAOC? how long on SB? how long on AO? how long on old a$$ UO to hit 100% piercing? how long on any game to reach the end game level of play? This game is stupidly easy as it is now.

Uh. Yeah. Your point?

im tired of pointing out the obvious for him. Anyone else care to try. He is prolly beyond hope or someone's little brother. I cant really see someone like this.

The obvious being that in this game, you advance quickly? Again, what exactly were you trying to say? On the one hand, you're saying that you advance quickly in SWG? On the other hand, you're saying that you should advance slowly in SWG. But you do advance quickly...that's how the system works. So again, I ask...what's your point?

A real player who has played other games knows that you dont get to play with the bigger kids until you put in your time,

ALL HEAR THIS! If you haven't been playing as long as this dude, or if you haven't played as many other games as this dude, you're not a "REAL" player. Sorry to let you all know that....lmao

wow dude your angry and missed a rhetorical quote that im sure everone else understood. MMORPG's. I didnt invent them i just play them. I never claimed to be the end all be all there but i do know they all share a common strutcture.this has to be the highest bit of insecurity ive ever seen in a single person.

Rhetorical means that you're asking a question that isn't meant to be answered. A quote is a statement that has been said by someone else previously, and is usually signified with quotation marks. There's no question there, and there are no quotation marks.... there is only the assertation that "real" players know this and that, and since you included that line in support of your argument, you were saying you personally qualify as a "real" player. By making yourself a "real" player, you are implying that there are many other "unreal", or inferior, players. So you were indeed making the statement that you are the end all, be all.

And there was nothing ANGRY there...I was, uh, making fun of you. Kind of like what I'm doing now. Sorry.

this just hasnt been the case for SWG. if your have never played another MMORPG before coming here ,guess what star wars is like playing mario race carsand ever other game is halo 2when compared to advancing and gaining levels ormoney with every other game out there.

Sounds pretty crappy. Why do you play again?

laughing at people like you.who want so bad to be informed , on top , in the scoop,

Really? Is that how I am? You laugh at people who need information about how better to play the game, instead of helping out? Not very nice of you. I want to be on top? In a year of playing, I've PvP'ed 4 times, and only won once. Does that mean I want to be on top? In the scoop? I have no idea what that means. Must be a regional thing.

yet can even see past the you dont think like me so you cant have a valid point attitude they carry.

I'm not the one condemning people for not wanting to play like me. That would be YOU.

Please i ask you not as a flame but get a little more informed about what you talk about.

lol. Just.....lol

read things carefully 2 or 3 times if you have to even before posting again.

Whenever I do in text responses like this, I do read them. I kind of have to, so I know where to drop these little responses.

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wow ... i wonder if just acted that way to make me type all that again?

And if you'd like to continue this, please switch up the colors a bit. I already used yellow.

lol sorry had to edit a few errors and add something

Message Edited by Bumpity on 01-21-2005 08:13 PM

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When Im getting 400 credit payouts for solo groups and up to 6k for solo missions things add up pretty quick. I have JTL and in a single duty I have banked up to 600k credits. JTL is the only thing supporting me at the moment.

But even between jedi (whats the use, im ranged and don't stand a snowballs chance in hades)and the price of things (which by the way haven't changed at all on my server). I have officially retired from pvp. Which is btw why I have 20mil credits (and growing) still in my account. My needs arent as demanding when i'm just toolin around.

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La-grange wrote:
When Im getting 400 credit payouts for solo groups and up to 6k for solo missions things add up pretty quick. I have JTL and in a single duty I have banked up to 600k credits. JTL is the only thing supporting me at the moment.

But even between jedi (whats the use, im ranged and don't stand a snowballs chance in hades)and the price of things (which by the way haven't changed at all on my server). I have officially retired from pvp. Which is btw why I have 20mil credits (and growing) still in my account. My needs arent as demanding when i'm just toolin around.

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The problem is that no matter how many ways fighters may find to make money, they will always get less money than the (tons of) players who have two characters (one for fighting and the other strictly for money gathering purposes) or JTL (which i have no desire of buying just for getting money in my pocket). And because of those two factors, you will ALWAYS have to deal with high priced equipent and food in vendors. Which isnt fair for someone who doesnt want an alt or an expansion.

Look what happened after the solo group fix. Docs everywhere and anywhere. There was a time when i would spread out with guildies from planet to planet in order to find a doc and now you can see them anywhere. Yavin, Dathomir, Theed, you name it. You can see 3 or 4 docs in coronet starport struggling to get customers. After the solo group nerf, it was the only (and maybe the easiest) way for players to get money and pay for the still outrageous prices.

Personally as a figher, i dont care. I do 10k and 12k missions to get money and i do my FS grinding at the same time. But i know that this lifestyle cant support a house and cant fulfill my higher capitalistic desires until i get my alt from my FS-to-Jedi grinding. Sad, lame but true.

I go to South Coronet Mall (on the Naritus server) and i see TONS of closed weapon & loot shops that were thriving 3 months ago. No wonder. Their main source of income were the fighters who were getting the mucho denaro from solo group missions. With the solo group missions being nerfed and fighters broke, what the point of keeping such a store open?

Another thing. Solo groups where fun. I was making humongous solo groups on Dantooine, gathering tons of people, going to hunt Janta, get tons of $$$, and have a laugh at the same time.

Now i make solo groups strictly for grinding purposes and im lucky if i get 5 people in it.

SOE keeps destroying fun aspects of the game.

Message Edited by Mozzman on 01-24-2005 11:47 AM

My main char cannot make money as a fighter. Running 10K missions barely covered buffs+stims+bio food (brandy and canape), tips for heals and entertainer heals and buffs (remember they need money too) and it took me over a month to master (swords). I had to add master doctor to him to make him viable, and at that it took me forever to afford a 110 med use droid, bio clothes, bivoli, and buffpacks that will do 2400+ buffs. Once I could afford that buffpack, I finally could make money to afford that scythe, that suit of composite, etc

Sitting on my ass in a spaceport, not out fighting...

Buffpacks cost me $150K for 32 uses.. 25%+ Bivoli costs me $150K per case...

Ever wonder why buffs cost 10-15K? That's why.

Of course, I never buff AFK, and I always do free heals when buffing (as I feel all docs SHOULD be doing), so I offer a premium to justify the cost.

It will take a YEAR for the hyper inflation to subside. But I don't know if it ever will, as long as players are able to scrape up the creds and pay for it.

Sure I can do a 6K buff. If the cost of those supplies falls to below $100K...