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Thread: Begging: What's the deal?
Vrond
Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:03 am
#40
I8TheWorm wrote:
kordeth4 wrote:
i ignore beggers simply because i know that a new charactor can get novice artisan for 100 creds sample for 5 minute to get the resources to make a gas surveyor go survey out some high concentration of inert gas and them make 30k in 30 min running artisan gas survey missions with the rental vehicle that they get at the start
Kordeth
Being of Many Galaxies
True, but most noobs don't know that's possible. What they really need is someone to spend a few minutes with them explaining exactly that.
But all of us where n00bs at one point and not all of us started of begging. Begging is for people who what to get started with no effort. If they paid for an account with a master then they missed alot of fun in learning their profession. They get no money or any thing else from me.
Tavtrin
Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:16 am
#41
I have attempted to explain/help beggers do missions and the vast majority won't. In fact most take offense and start calling me selfish if I even imply they get their own money.
Shysty
Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:40 am
#42
If a begger comes up to me while im buffing ppl at a starport, I usually tell them to go get basic dance skills and dance for my customers. after 5 min of that, I give them a free low end buff and tell them to run missions.
TomedNor
Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:15 pm
#43
I'm not too keen on begging myself.
I've only been playing for about 2 weeks, (I've never played a MMORPG before, and KOTOR was the only RPG game I've played before this) and after a few min I was able to figure out the basics. Even if you have no skills and are a big wimp, you can still get delivery missions for easy credits. I haven't had any reason to beg, if you read the manual, and browse the forums here, and just poke around in the game, it's easy to figure out the basics. I've had a few questions about how things work, and most people are more than happy to answer that kind of question if you've at least tried a few things yourself.
I've only been playing for about 2 weeks, (I've never played a MMORPG before, and KOTOR was the only RPG game I've played before this) and after a few min I was able to figure out the basics. Even if you have no skills and are a big wimp, you can still get delivery missions for easy credits. I haven't had any reason to beg, if you read the manual, and browse the forums here, and just poke around in the game, it's easy to figure out the basics. I've had a few questions about how things work, and most people are more than happy to answer that kind of question if you've at least tried a few things yourself.
bluejanus
Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:39 pm
#44
Puertoriqueno wrote:
This is probably going to sound odd....but I think it is a karma thing. Yes, tipping someone does not help you in game. The argument could be said that doing so in life does not help you either.
But I approach this in game the same way I approach it outside the game. I dont give the money for the person that wants it....I could honestly care less about what they do with it or how much they need it. I do it for me. For my karma.
Yea, its silly. But it makes me feel good, and that is all that counts.
That is not to say I have not refused before. When someone is obviously clowning me, I pull back the wallet.
I don't believe in karma.
Tavtrin
Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:23 pm
#45
Sometimes its easier to put your trust in something make believe than in yourself, look at organized religtion.
bluejanus wrote:
Puertoriqueno wrote:
This is probably going to sound odd....but I think it is a karma thing. Yes, tipping someone does not help you in game. The argument could be said that doing so in life does not help you either.
But I approach this in game the same way I approach it outside the game. I dont give the money for the person that wants it....I could honestly care less about what they do with it or how much they need it. I do it for me. For my karma.
Yea, its silly. But it makes me feel good, and that is all that counts.
That is not to say I have not refused before. When someone is obviously clowning me, I pull back the wallet.
I don't believe in karma.
bluejanus
Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:48 pm
#46
Perhaps, but I don't PERSONALLY believe in karma.
Tavtrin wrote:
Sometimes its easier to put your trust in something make believe than in yourself, look at organized religtion.
bluejanus wrote:
Puertoriqueno wrote:
This is probably going to sound odd....but I think it is a karma thing. Yes, tipping someone does not help you in game. The argument could be said that doing so in life does not help you either.
But I approach this in game the same way I approach it outside the game. I dont give the money for the person that wants it....I could honestly care less about what they do with it or how much they need it. I do it for me. For my karma.
Yea, its silly. But it makes me feel good, and that is all that counts.
That is not to say I have not refused before. When someone is obviously clowning me, I pull back the wallet.
I don't believe in karma.
homelessguy
Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:30 am
#48
wow thats stupid. not even i would miss out on that opitunity.
Tavtrin
Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:59 am
#49
bluejanus wrote:
Tavtrin wrote:
My comment really wasn't related to this discussion
Then what was it directed towards?
I have no idea why I wrote it out. Maybe I've had a couple to many beers.
FantasticPlastic
Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:40 am
#50
The idea of karma is an excellent one, in my opinion. And in the real world most of the really wealthy people who are both rich in money and satisfied as people usually devote a good deal of their fortune toward charitable efforts.
One thing I try to keep in mind is the idea that it's my mind, my personal actions, and the support of a great bunch of friends who have helped me achieve whatever success I've had. It's not the particular profession I chose, or the resource stocks I have saved up, or the money I have in the bank.
Someone without ingenuity and without the ability to trust in others can the profession, the resources, and the bank and still be a failure if the winds change and they're not able to adapt.
Someone *with* ingenuity and trust will succeed even if they're stripped back down to 250c and a noob melon.
O.
One thing I try to keep in mind is the idea that it's my mind, my personal actions, and the support of a great bunch of friends who have helped me achieve whatever success I've had. It's not the particular profession I chose, or the resource stocks I have saved up, or the money I have in the bank.
Someone without ingenuity and without the ability to trust in others can the profession, the resources, and the bank and still be a failure if the winds change and they're not able to adapt.
Someone *with* ingenuity and trust will succeed even if they're stripped back down to 250c and a noob melon.
O.
Rsern
Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:04 am
#51
I believe in Karma also, but I also think that giving to someone who does not deserve it or would not try to earn it on their own first is just as big a fallacy as not being charitable at all.
bluejanus
Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:44 pm
#52
Tavtrin wrote:
My comment really wasn't related to this discussion
Then what was it directed towards?