Business And Economy Archive
Thread: The economy is completely broke
MDEUK
Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:44 am
#15
People who post things like this are exactly the same people who complain that the real-world economy sucks.
SWG is a player-driven economy - if you want to have the best stuff, you have to work for it. Period. End of story. The time you spent posting could have been used in-game to make money 
benskywalker1
Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:48 am
#16
The real world economy is good? 
At least it isn't where I live. Economy around here is so bad....I'm married, 24, and we live with my parents paying no rent while I finish my degree.
But at this point in the game. I really think that things are the way they should have been. They are trying to get us to group again instead of just about everything being soloable. I remember having to do the rebel themepark with HELP! 
Message Edited by benskywalker1 on 03-04-2005 10:49 AM
magitek82
Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:00 am
#17
MDEUK wrote:
People who post things like this are exactly the same people who complain that the real-world economy sucks.
SWG is a player-driven economy - if you want to have the best stuff, you have to work for it. Period. End of story. The time you spent posting could have been used in-game to make money
So you're saying a rich girl/kid like Paris Hilton deserves all the best things because she works hard?? Don't compare SWG economy to Real world economy
The best example that proves your statement wrong is the case of the working lower class. People who work 2 jobs working damn near 18 hours a day, making slightly too much to be eligible for welfare, yet cant afford things young adult, middle class americans take for granted like health insurance...
Gninneb
Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:02 am
#18
I am getting so tried of people compliaining saying because there are no solo groups they cant make any money. I've been a round for over a year started broke like everyone else, with no speeder heck i had to walk back to my body when I died. I dont see anyone complaining they that they want corpse runs back because they didnt get to experiance that. I am a have now, but to get to that point I had to take time and earn it, i was dirt poor for the first few months that I played, with junk armor and so so weapons, but i Kept working at it and slowly the money came in. Now when your new you start with a helper droid, if you do the missions it gives you make easy money. You have help getting started they have made it easy for a noob to get going. Just besaues you cant afford the top end weapons or armor doesnt mean things are broke. Now these days i wear top end armor and use nice weapons, but you know i pay less now for the armor than when i started for much better armor same with most weapons. I am not a loot camper, heck by the time I learned about solo groups it was over I hunt by myself most of the time and earn a good living. So please people let this issue die, the fact is prices on most things are down from when i started the game and the things that are higher now are much better items than back then, ie price should be higher. This is just my two cent, but i have worked very hard to have the credits i have.
thegreywolfe
Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:23 am
#20
Broke???? Maybe you think so, but I don't see much evidence of that. I started the game only three months ago, worked my tail off with my first character to get him up as an architect (easiest grind in the game). I don't have any problem making credits with him. He's neutral and has no combat skills, but he makes about 3 million a week. I have another character that is a tk/doc. I don't even give buffs with him & I make upwards of 200k a day while faction hunting.
If high prices bother you, look at it like this. The players that charge high prices fall into a couple of different groups, those that don't know better, those that do and bilk the noobs that buy credits on ebay, those that know the correct price and don't care. If you look around you will find vendors that charge a little more reasonable prices. If you don't find any vendor with what you consider a reasonable price, then you need to reconsider what a reasonable price is. You complained about the price of Krayt Pearls, but you need to look at the quality and what it takes to get them, and look at who needs them. If you are in a position that you can use Krayt pearls then you should be able to go earn them yourself.
I personally at the moment have no use for pearls so I don't bother getting them. I do get a lot of various crystals dropping in places I hunt. Instead of selling them off for prices that I can't gauge for myself (being just Force Sensitive) I'm holding all of them as decorations until I can use them for their intended purpose.
So, in closing. Before you complain about a broken economy and the high prices of everything, seriously think about what you are saying. Is the price too high? Or are you just looking for a free lunch?
If high prices bother you, look at it like this. The players that charge high prices fall into a couple of different groups, those that don't know better, those that do and bilk the noobs that buy credits on ebay, those that know the correct price and don't care. If you look around you will find vendors that charge a little more reasonable prices. If you don't find any vendor with what you consider a reasonable price, then you need to reconsider what a reasonable price is. You complained about the price of Krayt Pearls, but you need to look at the quality and what it takes to get them, and look at who needs them. If you are in a position that you can use Krayt pearls then you should be able to go earn them yourself.
I personally at the moment have no use for pearls so I don't bother getting them. I do get a lot of various crystals dropping in places I hunt. Instead of selling them off for prices that I can't gauge for myself (being just Force Sensitive) I'm holding all of them as decorations until I can use them for their intended purpose.
So, in closing. Before you complain about a broken economy and the high prices of everything, seriously think about what you are saying. Is the price too high? Or are you just looking for a free lunch?
Diaso
Fri Mar 04, 2005 7:55 pm
#21
oscabegra wrote:Are you sure this is the truth? I think you may be embellishing things a bit.
alpinestreams wrote:
The economy on Eclipse is VERY broken. Only ones who can afford anything are people who are crafters themselves or made fortunes before. I've never seen anyone try to form a hunting group since the nerf simply because no one needs too for the XP. This should not have happened until the CU when there might be a need for hunting groups. As it stands now no one needs to hunt together because it's easy to kill animals/lairs.
I'm not a crafter, or an all out PvE or PvPer. I own a small resources buisness where I sell things for 2-3 cpu for the most apart. I'm a master Medic, 2/1/0/4 CM, and a Novice Pistoleer. Now I make my money through Veteran Rewards, Resources, rare items I loot when I'm grouped, and other random things. The economy is only hurting newbs... MABYE!!! Newbs once thye get their SWG lives going are fine, so the only thing broken in this games are GCW content and the HARVESTERS(MY INCOME).
BlackJango
Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:12 am
#22
g7rp0 wrote:
Well done SoE for completely breaking the whole game system solo group nerfs hit ONLY the noobs as everyone else had plenty of time to get millions from Mokks and Jantas.
Imperials can still get them solo cos they can group with an ATST, rebs get a little trooper which barely raises levels at all, result? Imps can still make silly money and rebs are completely stuffed.
It has got even more laffable now we can be a combatant and wander around wherever we want with impunity, no chance now of the ATST being taken by an overt Jedi/Rifleman/Swordie.
Dont start with the 'Oh its a war' this should have no relation to the missions a combatant should be able to get and the rewards available, working for an employer should be completely unrelated to faction affiliation.
Thought maybe the devs were starting to get it right, with the increasing of Krayt spawns and the sudden increase of tissues and pearls appearing on the market forcing pricees down and making the loot available to even the ones of us with smaller bank accounts.
Then what happens the loot drop is nerfed! Now a Krayt drops loot even more rarely and price suddenly sky rocket again, pearls that would have gone for 500k max a week to 10 days ago are now 4 times that and it is only gonna get worse.
My char is lucky to have 5 mil in the bank at any 1 time and hence cannot afford to buy stuff that cost STUPID money.
If nothing else please change the group rules so that pets dont count towards payouts or is it true what I suspect, that the devs are all imperial and hence the have has NO BALANCE AT ALL
2 interesting auctions going on at the moment
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=farstar_trade&message.id=236092
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=farstar_trade&message.id=236155
*Preface*I'll leave the rest of this idiotic display of your true moronic self alone.
How do imperials getting slightylpayouts[at a cost]ruin "balance?"
You know what? No one cares. A few imps getting 10k more then you isn't hurting anyone. Besides, who forced you to be rebel? And don't even think about telling me species penalties prevent that. Any determined player can get an ATST
Pearls? Oh, Krayt Dragon pearls are costing more...tsk tsk, what to do? OH! There are thousands and I mean thousands of pearls that arn't "premium" out there. Why is EVERYONE so obsessed with being the richest, most powerfull player? Do you NEED a flawless krayt dragon pearl to be good with Jedi? Last time I checked, Jedi have a TON of things going for them besides damage output. Heals of all states, instant all state heals, poison, bleed, heals heals heals. I don't NEED a 940 max dmg geo pistol to be good with a pistol. My friend doesn't NEED a 2000 max T21 to be good with rifleman. We NEED those to be the "ubder-l337z" everyone invisions them selves as.
Grow up, stop fussing. Notice how many other people say its broken? Think your making a point?
/sarcasm
Yeah, this post [the 500th of its kind] really changed my mind about the economy.
BlackJango
Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:13 am
#23
"So, you start you complaint saying the a newcomer to the game can't make any money - very nice of you to try and be a voice for them. SO then, why did you follow it up by complaining that a NEWCOMER can't attack High End MOBs for money anymore? And then, why did you bring Krayts and Pearls into the mix, which are 2 things a newcomer has NO chance of winning against, and has NO need of looting in the first place?
Hate to be harsh, but get a clue. You complain about high end loots, and use newcomers as your justification. Then you complain that you have 5 million credits - Only about 66,666 times MORE than a newcomer. Then you complain that Devs are Imperial - When everyone and their brother on the other boards insist that they are Rebel - And to top it off, you try and illustrate the "Prices are too high" point by showing us 2 auctions where people are REFUSING to pay high prices. Those people refusing to pay the prices is exactly what buyers SHOULD do - Refuse to pay high prices, and those prices will come down.
Incidentally, fought 6 Krayts last night, and got loot off of each and every one of them. - Amazing... Loot nerf, huh? Where? I got loot 6 out of 6 times - I NEVER got loot 6 out of 6 before ever."
/applaud
5*
Message Edited by BlackJango on 03-05-2005 05:41 PM
Muzz
Sat Mar 05, 2005 4:55 pm
#24
Within two weeks,and inmost cases alot less,of creating a combat character you should be able to solo a Juvenile Canyon Krayt quite easily andin all probabilityeventougher mobsthan that. You can make plenty of credits that way.
And crafters have it easy huh? I joined in Dec 2003 and it's taken me this long to build up a business and make alot of credits from it.
Gohma_Manovich
Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:16 pm
#25
Dudes the only money in circulation now is all old money from before solo mision nerf
Phaelyn
Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:51 pm
#26
Gohma_Manovich wrote:
we are all rich and making loadsa money lalala
Dudes the only money in circulation now is all old money from before solo mision nerf
Really? Wow - I guess the 300k I got from an hour of missions yesterday doesn't count as new money? Did another Crafter pay me to do those missions? NO - The system adds in TONS of new money through the mission dynamic every day. The only way you CAN'T make money as a fighter now is by REFUSING TO CHANGE YOUR THINKING!
I'll say it again, and in a clear manner - The only people unable to make "big" money from missions are those who INSIST on getting buffed and going to Dant to do Janta and Mokk missions while in a solo group. That ISN'T where the money is anymore! The Solo group dynamic is now for EXPERIENCE, not money. To make money, go by yourself to places like Yavin, and do your own missions - 10-12k for 30 second missions. Do that for your 3 hour buffs - See how much money you have now? Big clue - just about as much as you made in Solo groups.