Business And Economy Archive

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teamdoa wrote:

Rich people have multiple accounts.

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g7rp0 wrote:

Well done SoE for completely breaking the whole game system solo group nerfs hit ONLY the noobs as everyone else had plenty of time to get millions from Mokks and Jantas.

Imperials can still get them solo cos they can group with an ATST, rebs get a little trooper which barely raises levels at all, result? Imps can still make silly money and rebs are completely stuffed.

It has got even more laffable now we can be a combatant and wander around wherever we want with impunity, no chance now of the ATST being taken by an overt Jedi/Rifleman/Swordie.

Dont start with the 'Oh its a war' this should have no relation to the missions a combatant should be able to get and the rewards available, working for an employer should be completely unrelated to faction affiliation.

Thought maybe the devs were starting to get it right, with the increasing of Krayt spawns and the sudden increase of tissues and pearls appearing on the market forcing pricees down and making the loot available to even the ones of us with smaller bank accounts.

Then what happens the loot drop is nerfed! Now a Krayt drops loot even more rarely and price suddenly sky rocket again, pearls that would have gone for 500k max a week to 10 days ago are now 4 times that and it is only gonna get worse.

My char is lucky to have 5 mil in the bank at any 1 time and hence cannot afford to buy stuff that cost STUPID money.

If nothing else please change the group rules so that pets dont count towards payouts or is it true what I suspect, that the devs are all imperial and hence the have has NO BALANCE AT ALL

2 interesting auctions going on at the moment

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=farstar_trade&message.id=236092

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=farstar_trade&message.id=236155

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Phaelyn wrote:

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g7rp0 wrote:

Well done SoE for completely breaking the whole game system solo group nerfs hit ONLY the noobs as everyone else had plenty of time to get millions from Mokks and Jantas.

Imperials can still get them solo cos they can group with an ATST, rebs get a little trooper which barely raises levels at all, result? Imps can still make silly money and rebs are completely stuffed.

It has got even more laffable now we can be a combatant and wander around wherever we want with impunity, no chance now of the ATST being taken by an overt Jedi/Rifleman/Swordie.

Dont start with the 'Oh its a war' this should have no relation to the missions a combatant should be able to get and the rewards available, working for an employer should be completely unrelated to faction affiliation.

Thought maybe the devs were starting to get it right, with the increasing of Krayt spawns and the sudden increase of tissues and pearls appearing on the market forcing pricees down and making the loot available to even the ones of us with smaller bank accounts.

Then what happens the loot drop is nerfed! Now a Krayt drops loot even more rarely and price suddenly sky rocket again, pearls that would have gone for 500k max a week to 10 days ago are now 4 times that and it is only gonna get worse.

My char is lucky to have 5 mil in the bank at any 1 time and hence cannot afford to buy stuff that cost STUPID money.

If nothing else please change the group rules so that pets dont count towards payouts or is it true what I suspect, that the devs are all imperial and hence the have has NO BALANCE AT ALL

2 interesting auctions going on at the moment

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=farstar_trade&message.id=236092

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=farstar_trade&message.id=236155

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So, you start you complaint saying the a newcomer to the game can't make any money - very nice of you to try and be a voice for them. SO then, why did you follow it up by complaining that a NEWCOMER can't attack High End MOBs for money anymore? And then, why did you bring Krayts and Pearls into the mix, which are 2 things a newcomer has NO chance of winning against, and has NO need of looting in the first place?

Hate to be harsh, but get a clue. You complain about high end loots, and use newcomers as your justification. Then you complain that you have 5 million credits - Only about 66,666 times MORE than a newcomer. Then you complain that Devs are Imperial - When everyone and their brother on the other boards insist that they are Rebel - And to top it off, you try and illustrate the "Prices are too high" point by showing us 2 auctions where people are REFUSING to pay high prices. Those people refusing to pay the prices is exactly what buyers SHOULD do - Refuse to pay high prices, and those prices will come down.

Incidentally, fought 6 Krayts last night, and got loot off of each and every one of them. - Amazing... Loot nerf, huh? Where? I got loot 6 out of 6 times - I NEVER got loot 6 out of 6 before ever.

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Amen */bow*

The economy on Eclipse is VERY broken. Only ones who can afford anything are people who are crafters themselves or made fortunes before. I've never seen anyone try to form a hunting group since the nerf simply because no one needs too for the XP. This should not have happened until the CU when there might be a need for hunting groups. As it stands now no one needs to hunt together because it's easy to kill animals/lairs.

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Phaelyn wrote:

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g7rp0 wrote:

Well done SoE for completely breaking the whole game system solo group nerfs hit ONLY the noobs as everyone else had plenty of time to get millions from Mokks and Jantas.

Imperials can still get them solo cos they can group with an ATST, rebs get a little trooper which barely raises levels at all, result? Imps can still make silly money and rebs are completely stuffed.

It has got even more laffable now we can be a combatant and wander around wherever we want with impunity, no chance now of the ATST being taken by an overt Jedi/Rifleman/Swordie.

Dont start with the 'Oh its a war' this should have no relation to the missions a combatant should be able to get and the rewards available, working for an employer should be completely unrelated to faction affiliation.

Thought maybe the devs were starting to get it right, with the increasing of Krayt spawns and the sudden increase of tissues and pearls appearing on the market forcing pricees down and making the loot available to even the ones of us with smaller bank accounts.

Then what happens the loot drop is nerfed! Now a Krayt drops loot even more rarely and price suddenly sky rocket again, pearls that would have gone for 500k max a week to 10 days ago are now 4 times that and it is only gonna get worse.

My char is lucky to have 5 mil in the bank at any 1 time and hence cannot afford to buy stuff that cost STUPID money.

If nothing else please change the group rules so that pets dont count towards payouts or is it true what I suspect, that the devs are all imperial and hence the have has NO BALANCE AT ALL

2 interesting auctions going on at the moment

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=farstar_trade&message.id=236092

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=farstar_trade&message.id=236155

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So, you start you complaint saying the a newcomer to the game can't make any money - very nice of you to try and be a voice for them. SO then, why did you follow it up by complaining that a NEWCOMER can't attack High End MOBs for money anymore? And then, why did you bring Krayts and Pearls into the mix, which are 2 things a newcomer has NO chance of winning against, and has NO need of looting in the first place?

Hate to be harsh, but get a clue. You complain about high end loots, and use newcomers as your justification. Then you complain that you have 5 million credits - Only about 66,666 times MORE than a newcomer. Then you complain that Devs are Imperial - When everyone and their brother on the other boards insist that they are Rebel - And to top it off, you try and illustrate the "Prices are too high" point by showing us 2 auctions where people are REFUSING to pay high prices. Those people refusing to pay the prices is exactly what buyers SHOULD do - Refuse to pay high prices, and those prices will come down.

Incidentally, fought 6 Krayts last night, and got loot off of each and every one of them. - Amazing... Loot nerf, huh? Where? I got loot 6 out of 6 times - I NEVER got loot 6 out of 6 before ever.

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alpinestreams wrote:
The economy on Eclipse is VERY broken. Only ones who can afford anything are people who are crafters themselves or made fortunes before. I've never seen anyone try to form a hunting group since the nerf simply because no one needs too for the XP. This should not have happened until the CU when there might be a need for hunting groups. As it stands now no one needs to hunt together because it's easy to kill animals/lairs.

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Are you sure this is the truth? I think you may be embellishing things a bit.

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g7rp0 wrote:

Well done SoE for completely breaking the whole game system solo group nerfs hit ONLY the noobs as everyone else had plenty of time to get millions from Mokks and Jantas.

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So.....you're saying the solo group nerfs broke the economy and NOT the actual aspect of people Solo grouping in the 1st place?

No I really don't.

ok, so riddle me this, you, are crying about having 5 mill in the bank, and not being able to buy things off of the trade forums with it, now, welcome to simple economics:

just because its expensive here... doesnt mean its expensive everywhere else.

moving on, 5 million credits is still a decent amount, and well, is it really that hard to go run missions for profit like we did back in the old days, sure, you wont get rich quick, but you'll get money...

furthermore, you accuse the devs of being imps, what grounds/proof/whatever do you have for this statement? yes, i do agree that atsts should not count twoards mission payouts, and us rebels get severely shafted in terms of personell support, but CMN, if you really dont like not having a 15 ton deathmachine to back you up, go gIMP.

and well, as for pricing on various items, players make the market, thus, the prices are what are set, now, if you really want, the dev's could just dump a larg portion out of everyone's banks... but, that would lead to much more crying, whining and complaints than anything else.

and as for the atst that cannot be killed... wah. a majority of the swg population does not want to pvp, not to mention the tef system and whatnot had incredibly major issues, honestly, i like the new system alot more, because well, it makes sense, now, if i walk though an imperial starport, stormtroopers dotn turn a blind eye to me, they try and kick the snot out of me.

and well, personally, i could do alot with 5 mill, but, hell, im broke, 50-250k credits at any time, and i get along just fine... once again... CMN