Brawler Archive
Thread: Warcry and Publish7
TKA is not overpowered.
Actualy its maybe the only melee class that is not broken.
Now maybe 60% of all Melee Classes are TKA. Many of them are master brawlers too. Of course seem other brawler classes "underpowered" compared to that not because TKA is so uber, but because other classes are either unballanced, broken or whatever. So instead of nerfing something and force them to play broken classes. Fix the other classes and make them a fair alternative to TKA/Master Brawler template.
I think you guys are just reading your logs and say "hey we have to many TKA/brawler and they can solo things that they should not be able to because they are brawler, so lets nerf brawler" But by nerfing brawler youre not just nerfing tka, you are also killing other melee classes. They are all broken so much that master brawler is just a must for a pikeman and fencer.
But ok if you still have to nerf wc2 anyways...
1. WC2 must be like a short mesmerize effect. Stop the target from moving and attacking for the same duration like WC1 and break when the target is attacked. I think this is fair, this will fix all your worries about wc2 and still beeing a nice feature to stop ranged classes from kiting that is worth to go master brawler for and what it is desired to be.
2. Fix other melee classes ham cost, hit rate and all their broken defence mods and specials.
3. Give other melee classes KD/Dizzy
4. Make Dezzy last less long.
5. forgive me my english, not my native.
have a nice day...
Noc-turnal wrote:
TKA is over powered, not to say other brawling class isnt broken. to put it simply if everybody was at TKA level it will be one hit kills and its just be stupid. run over dizzy+KD in one go =instant death. the accuratcy is so high and the speed is so fast its just rediculas for TKA to be able to do instant kill combo without even try it. be honest how many times have we seen TKA do the dizzy+KD then spam unarmed combo3? its like a one gag comedian its un true
enough about TKA the issue is is Warcry. as it has been mention warcry have HAM cost as well (an not entirely small either) i have PvP before and 5 attempt at warcry2 and still didnt stick and i was half dead anyways, warcry2 is noway is perfect but it is great as it is since it should have flaws in them. now what would be the point of having warcry2 after the nerf when warcry1 can do the same with less duration? i mean soon as you wack them they break free anyways its just completely uselss in pratical use. berserk is already useless as it is without making more brawler moves uselss. i see no point in myself being master brawler after publish 7 anymore, i'll have my scouting back instead
Naw... I used to be fencer and pikeman myself and now i am tka/brawler/rifleman. You cak KD+dizzy all day long maybe a bounty hunter or novice artisan, something with no defence at all. However most combat class masters just get up after kd, no matter dizzy or not.
For myself i never do KD2. They get up in 2 seconds anyways even if they are dizzy. I rather like Warcry2, Intermediate2 and Lunge2. Spaming Unarmed hit 3 ? Well maybe TKA beginners do so. I dont even have it in my quickbar. I found out i am much better with Headhit.
It works now, but will be nerfed in the next publish. Are you not reading the messages?
to have an AOE effect on warcry2 would be to uber for a Brawler template.
kurac wrote:
I saw a thread on the Kettemorr forums about the new updates for Publish7. One of the items was a change in Warcry
"Warcry has been changed from being a single target lock down preventing it from attacking to a method of “crowd control”."
Does anybody have any info on this? Will warcry still imobilize targets for 10-20 secs causing them to be inactive? Cause I'm loving my Warcry2 and it could only get better if it would have an area effect!
Nothing say "beatdown" like a Warcry2 (with +32 Warcry/Intimidate BE Clothes), a Power Hammer, and a whole lot of headHit3.
Keep Warcry the same for **edit** sake, its one of the only things keeping me playing **edit**ing brawler and brawlers the only **edit**ing thing keeping me playing Fencer, and FENCER! Is the only **edit**ing thing keeping me playing this **edit**ing amazing game which the Developers are constantly **edit**ING UP!!! Think about it ffs.
VikaLine wrote:
I can already tell you the reason for this *fix* as they want to call it, in pvp warcry2 was becoming a major problem and people were complaining. So yet once again b/c of the broken pvp aspect of this game the players who enjoy the pve aspect take the hit. In my opinion it was not required to do this, they should of implemented Warcry Defense clothing for pvpers .. but alas the whines of many once again screw over the few.
To be fair though...
Read this thread that was started in January, but is still on the front page of the Brawler forum
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=brawler&message.id=8002
In it, people are talking about all the uber mobs they soloed by keeping mobs chain frozen with Warcry. Especially interesting is the guy who says he soloed a Krayt only getting hit 3 times or so between warcrys. Thats enough for him to heal up, and keep beating the dragon. I doubt SOE wants people doing that.
Im not exactly happy that Warcry is being changed like this, but its not just PvP tactics that were being affected by it. Its PvE too. Youll also notice that in the last few patches, anything that was described by the community as a means to "get around" the 30 sec timer on KD is being nerfed. Chargeshot (KD lite), Warcry... I wouldnt be surprised if Dizzy gets hit soon.