Brawler Archive

Thread: Warcry and Publish7

Chabian
Fri Feb 20, 2004 1:41 pm
#27

guess ill take up dancing and music and write and AFK macro....



thanks sony; if this is true - im gonna quit.



Takai


Blu_Haze
Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:26 pm
#28

If they nerf warcry you can say goodbye to the brawler profession.


No one in thier right mind would master brawler now and waste those skillpoints on a bunch of useless skills when they could easily just go up the skill tree that they need (polearm, swords, unarmed, etc) to get thier elite profession without sacrificing any other skill points on useless crap. Warcry2 is the only good thing you get out of master brawler besides lunge2, and without warcry2, lunge2 just isn't worth it to master brawler.


This definately sounds like one of the devs had a personal agenda against warcry, and it's rediculous for devs to have that much bias that they'll change the game on a whim just to make it more fun for THEM without thinking about anyone else. I've seen all of one, maybe 2 threads on the forum complaining about warcry, while there have been hundreds of threads complaining about every other profession. I havent even heard anyone complain about warcry in game.


The last time I used a knockdown/warcry combo on someone in a duel, he sent me a tell after it was over and said "nice combo". Stop changing things based on your own personal bias, devs, and start fixing the real problems.



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Aynn
Fri Feb 20, 2004 3:42 pm
#29

Is panic shot being affected by this nerf? its a smuggler ability to "delay action" for 10 seconds.. warcry was delay attack.



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Rawrboh
Fri Feb 20, 2004 3:47 pm
#30

Can someone find out what will be the range on warcry?A 20 meter range is not going to help much...


This is going to make figthing big mobs (which usually come one at a time) a lot harder if not impossible.
AngryGamer
Fri Feb 20, 2004 8:22 pm
#31

Please don't change Warcry... don't make this game anything like EQ, please. Leave this feature the way it is, you are changing something that doesn't NEED to be changed and it will only cause people to leave the profession. This feature is what gives somewhat support for any other elite brawlers out there, especially to a wookiee. I strongly disagree with your intentions. LEAVE IT!



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Noc-turnal
Fri Feb 20, 2004 8:28 pm
#32

i love master brawler what it gives as reward is more incentive not to ignore the profession as means to go elite. when they the patch come and the warcry isnerf i will give it up, and have my scouting skills back. i hope the Devs are happy about it because they will be very little reason to be master brawler nobody will spend 70points or so forexta 5-10 skill mods to the elitte profession.


The whole warcry+KD on PvE is rediculas. its the reward you get for master brawler, and the higher level mods like night sister spellweaver are not so easily knockdown. warcry dosent always stick either. you use the tactics on high level mob at your own risk if you attempt to solo.






Noc-turnal (T-S)

Droidmaker6
Fri Feb 20, 2004 9:42 pm
#33

The warcry delay is extremely important for brawlers. When fighting in pvp against a ranged fighter such as a master bh or rifleman, the only chance a melee fighter has is to delay them long enough to catch up with them. If you never catch them, then you will be kited. Warcry is also used to delay combat medics spamming poison. Warcry is also important when fighting pve. The posture change and knockdown timer doesn't last long enough on mobs, successfully landing a warcry on a downed mob can both save your life and help you defeat the mob.


Nerfing the delay on warcry would not give anyone an incentive to master brawler. I hope TH did not mean nerf warcry in his post.
shutout
Sat Feb 21, 2004 2:25 am
#34






MasterOfCombat wrote:

So far, the main use that we've thought of for this is to help you not need to tank when you get swarmed. Better at lower levels seems to be what it's aimed at.







making it a special that's better at low levels would make sense......if it was warcry1. but warcry 2 is received at master brawler. you're not really on a lower level if you have master brawler. anyone that grinded through pikeman and unarmed (especially now with the bleed nerf), they should have some skill, and not need a special made for lower levels. just my 2 creds.



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CorellianGraphitti
Sat Feb 21, 2004 6:29 am
#35

Nerfing Warcry is one of the worst things the Devs can do for melee fighters. Warcry is one of the only ways to deal with kiters, to keep from getting shot full of holes while you chase them down. Also, in it's current state, it is the best form of crowd control period. If the Devs are contemplating nerfing Warcry b/c of PvP, then just make the timer longer in between delays.



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Ximma
Sat Feb 21, 2004 8:59 am
#36

Is what bugs me is the 'single target lock down' and him saying it will now be for crowd control.

Or perhaps I should say it confuses me, because warcry2 is already an AoE cone special, that can lock down multiple targets for 20 seconds....So the crowd control thing is not going to be something new. We already have that. So basically it just boils down toa nerf.



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AlonzoOdantis
Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:27 am
#37

Sounds to me like they are trying to make a nerf sound like a new feature


Yes warcry ALREADY is a cone AoE. Sometimes I'll warcry 4-5 targets at once.


By no means am I immortal. Fix the following if you want to balance it though i will admit:


1)Make creatures stand if they have been KD. Warcry seems to make them not "try" to stand, since players can stand its obviously not forcing them to lay down.


2) Give people some resists to it, but nothing insane. Maybe like a "resist fear" stat that affects warcry, intimidate, etc.


3) By all means stop breaking things before you fix others. Warcry right now helps make up for berserk being worthless and other abilities. You already nerfed our bleeds making TKA all that much stronger. Now the KD/dizzy kings will love this. Even though they are brawlers this was the only way to keep them off your ass.


4) Please do not do this. This cannot be stressed enough that we do NOT want this. I heard occasional complaints about warcry but I have never seen rampant whines. WHy is this getting nerfed and yet TKA STILL gets untouched when everyone knows they are overpowered. This would be 3 patches straight that the most overpowered class in the game has not only NOT gotten even a slight nerf but has be powered up.


5) I Really want to say I appreciate the fact that our correspondants are out there fighting on this one. We support you guys 100%.




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Stormbilly
Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:31 am
#38

IF they nerf warcry, I would hope they also do the same for panic shot, considering that it does the same thing, but has a 64 METER range!!
MackieStingray
Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:21 am
#39

Me and my mates just closed down all our accounts. I'm sick og playing a game at the mercy of idiots. Just the fact that somone can suggest a change like this after bleed nerf and def stacking nerf proves that the game is run by idiots. Even if they don't go through with the nerf I'm still never ever gonna come back.


I am sick ofnerfs
I am sick ofshuttles
I am sick ofbad performance
I am sick ofbugs
I am sick of3 hour daily downtime
I am sick of the ticket man whom I have to click 10 times before he asks where I wanna go
I am sick of lag on Dantooine
I am sick of server loading
I am sick ofThunderheart
I am sick of SWG devs
I am sick of hologrinding
I am sick of dancing
I am sick of the metal-clank sound when I run my sword into flesh
I am sick og jedis with kinetic damage lightsabers and no KD def
I am sick of krayts


So this is my **edit** off and good bye. Thanks for wasting my **edit**in time.
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