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Thread: Petition to get us some actual MELEE hybrid professions

Nikoce
Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:12 pm
#40


Now lets think.... could george lucas have thought up some of the great ideas some of the novel writers had... its a universe, it really isnt George Lucas Playland... hell... i could say Bio's are the same thing.... cause they are.. its your idea of the SW universe, so the EU isnt entirely based off the Episodes and the "Comic books", you think lucas himself would have come up with something like the X-Wing series.??? or the New Jedi Order???? they never said Chewie died BTW... it is an assumption. what if there were another starship nearby? what if he survived? please dont make assumptions and throw them around as facts.


Now for constructive criticism-


Bounty Hunter - M Brawler+ M Scout, this is fine... but why not have a bounty hunter class for most of the possible starter classes...


Whipthingy- looking for the "i win" button again??? so what if the electrowhip was the second best weapon according to george lucas??? a DXR-6 disrupter would have you a steaming pile of ash in seconds- thats from the tech books too. Go look...


Arena- NO for the brawler only, then everybody that isnt Melee would whine about it. make it for everybody with different classes.



That is all for now.




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Nickoce
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Raidius-Hairuk
Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:51 pm
#41

How about something a little like nunchukas? Whips are a tall order for the devs as they would be a little complicated as a whip is not a stiff object and flows and waves in combat.


It would be basically two objects/weapons attached together with some kinda coord/chain/lazer and could perhaps be a weapon good at doing cone attacks.


The speed would be pretty high and it wouldnt target any body parts in specific so it doesnt take away anything from the other brawlers. One of its main abilities could be to paralyze a person for a few seconds (like warcry and panic shot do un-nerfed) which would give this profession some personality.


Could be placed on master brawler or in place of tka if they go to master brawler and they could have a damage type of cold perhaps? (for the elite weapon not all the the weapons)


MasterOfCombat
Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:31 pm
#42

If the Brawler had an Entertainer hybrid, then I would definately say that an Arena should be melee only, or seperate arenas at least. Watching a pistol duel isn't a very entertaining niche of simulated combat. Melee has flow, grace, style, and those streaky line things. Barring the use of typical PvP tactics, a protracted melee battle can be quite entertaining to watch as is.


Jabba's Palace would be a great Pre-Existing place for this. Getting in the arena and fighting the pet Rancor andmaking the Throne Room work like a cantina are ideas I've heard before, and would make Jabba's Palace more than just a waypoint for a Themepark. Having Theatres work would also help with this, especially with its good looking stage design and tiered seating.


Nunchucks I can't really see as a Star Wars weapon, and it would certainly appear that almost everyone hates the Electrowhip idea. I'm tempted to suggest Sword-Chucks though.



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rayill
Thu Mar 11, 2004 7:56 am
#43

I actually do like the idea of a Melee-only Arena (although I do agree that it would be subject to frequent whines about how ranged classes aren't allowed to participate - especially BH). I think it would be a great spot for entertainment, and it could be a chance for many classes to actually interact. Plus, I think it may let one Brawler hybrid get more brawler action - Smuggler. Hell, it would let them enter the arena for a fight and then be the sneaky guys who will cheat and use those dirty fighting moves later on. It would allow players to make lots more content on their own.



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atone48732
Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:21 am
#44

Hey thats good


but what about this


Since a smuggler is a gambler and criminal what if a smuggler could place bets on the fight and like set up some kind of area (could be like a vendor) where bets could be placed and that would give the smugglers some content



also I like the idea of smuggler getting in their and fighting dirty. maybe give the smugglers some unarmed dirty fighting tactics?



great ideas guys





Oelos Takushi: smuggler proud member of Oi and Smugglers alliance pilot..

Elalia Takushi: Dancer and rebel pilot and member of Oi
bring back TEras Kasi and the melee profs as expertise skills.. bring some fun and real diversification to SWG
GTOfire
Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:44 am
#45

I reckon it'd be a LITTLE too easy to fix the match and collect the bets. All you need is a smuggler and two fighters using some flasy but useless moves pretending to be going for the win, while one takes a dive.



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atone48732
Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:47 am
#46

hey but that would add content


I'm not saying that would be a good thing


Hmm well I thought it was a good idea *sigh*






Oelos Takushi: smuggler proud member of Oi and Smugglers alliance pilot..

Elalia Takushi: Dancer and rebel pilot and member of Oi
bring back TEras Kasi and the melee profs as expertise skills.. bring some fun and real diversification to SWG
Confusion12345
Thu Mar 11, 2004 3:15 pm
#47






atone48732 wrote:

I've got to dissagree with you Nik


arena's should be melee only


You want to duel in a arena type setting become a melee


It is a way to make melee combat interesting and to give it a place in the game


I mean traditionally a gun is a weapon of war not a weapon of entertainment


Melee combat is used as "sport" which can be called entertainment in real life all around us


Guns are a soldiers weapon








How about a game similar to paintball...maybe slimeball? Or Stunball?


And I think there should be seperate melee and ranged arenas, and maybe they could restrict the players to being able to use ONLY moves from their main combat profession (No smuggler dirty fighting, no bounty hunter moves getting mixed in), and maybe make it so you are not allowed to change to another weapon class during the fight. And for ranged arenas, obstacles and such could be put in


And anyways, in the Star Wars Universe, I think it's very likely guns were used as entertainment (Only example I see of this is in KotoR, which is 4,000 years earlier, but they could still have this entertainment ).



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MasterOfCombat
Thu Mar 11, 2004 5:32 pm
#48






atone48732 wrote:

Hey thats good


but what about this


Since a smuggler is a gambler and criminal what if a smuggler could place bets on the fight and like set up some kind of area (could be like a vendor) where bets could be placed and that would give the smugglers some content






Sounds cool to me. And if they do fix the fight well that's back alley gambling eh?



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atone48732
Thu Mar 11, 2004 6:47 pm
#49

sorry confusion I do not agree with that


Guns are used by soldiers in combat and by the way who the hell wants to go watch two people shoot at each other? Not me


I'd rather watch to TKA's or a tka and a swordsmen or a tka fencer...well you get the idea



and master of combat



thank you for your support. Back alley gambling would diffinatly be some content


Which brings me to another idea I had this afternoon


They could add in player bounties for BH's and if the smuggler is caught he would get a bounty either from a player who created or the game would create one (shrug)


so then gambling will be controled so it doesn't get out of hand


well enough rambling on for now





Oelos Takushi: smuggler proud member of Oi and Smugglers alliance pilot..

Elalia Takushi: Dancer and rebel pilot and member of Oi
bring back TEras Kasi and the melee profs as expertise skills.. bring some fun and real diversification to SWG
Nikoce
Thu Mar 11, 2004 9:28 pm
#50

i have nothing against an only melee arena... im just saying that you should have a class for ranged only as well so they can "prize fight" each other... guild dueling championships etc. etc.


btw... how in sam hell is the server going to pick a "main" combat profession.... you dont select it.. so it would have to randomly pick. kinda bad. besides a smuggler cheating would be so funny to watch.. make games so much more interesting... add to content of the games.. PC bounties have been talked about.. too much usablity as greifing tool imo, good idea though.



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Nickoce
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atone48732
Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:32 pm
#51

Well I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the arena thing


BUT...


By the way I used to hate the idea of having player bounties also


but if it were put in and dealt with in a way to attempt to prevent griefing it just might work



again an attempt to stop griefing cause I am sure there is no way to totally stop some idiot from abusing it someway or another



I could just see some smuggler fixing a fight and then getting killed because of it. I think that might be more entertaining then the actual fights lol





Oelos Takushi: smuggler proud member of Oi and Smugglers alliance pilot..

Elalia Takushi: Dancer and rebel pilot and member of Oi
bring back TEras Kasi and the melee profs as expertise skills.. bring some fun and real diversification to SWG
atone48732
Fri Mar 12, 2004 11:48 am
#52

/bump



Oelos Takushi: smuggler proud member of Oi and Smugglers alliance pilot..

Elalia Takushi: Dancer and rebel pilot and member of Oi
bring back TEras Kasi and the melee profs as expertise skills.. bring some fun and real diversification to SWG
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