Brawler Archive
Thread: ATTENTION ALL!!! COMBAT BALANCE DISPARITY!!!
You are correct in your statement R5-G8 aout why proffesions areant built up and instead they get nerfed. However in this case it is not a case of 15 proffesions needing to be changed. In this case it is many proffesions that have been changed where as one has not. Yes this thread will help the BH population. If you wish to help out then post, if not, then let this thread die. So, I am looking for a Pikeman's perspective on any changes that could be made/should not be made to the MBH defensive mods. Yes to the comment that this is a game of dabblers...but Masters should be equivilent to each other in their own aspects and manners.If youfeel that theMBH defense modsshould not be changed, then post it and why. If you feel that they could standsome improvement, post the changes you think could work and why you think that. Thank you for anything youguys have to give andGood Luck to you all.
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Good picture. Now that statement about incapping with a LLC2 blast would make my heart cry if I didnt know that it almost never happens. Unfortuanly LLC2 blasts are rarely used in PvP outside of duels because almost no BH is willing to close with an opponent. When we do, yes the potential for heavy damage slightly exists. However due to the heavy defenses All the combat proffesions except BH and Commando possess coupled with the LLC's natural tendancy to miss on its own greatly makes doing so both a brave and stupid act. Now, nI want to kick this post back to its intent and that is for suggestions. If you feel from the defense mods listed that Master Bounty Hunter doesnt need any change, state so and why you feel that way. If you think that MBH could do with some additions, post the changes you think could work and why you think that way. Im after a swordman's perspective on this as well, so Im asking <gasp> swordmen. Anything you post, if it is posted with a helping intent, is appreciated and will be taken into account. Thank you and Good Luck to you all.
I was MBH, and I am Pistoleer/Fencer/TKM now. I can honestly say that for the amount of skill points a bounty hunter spends to reach master, they lack firepower AND durability. Though as MBH+Pistoleer dabbler, i could solo most mobs and Pvp well enough, the lack of defense has really turned MBH into the zerg of SWG. If you can't stay on the offensive, you lose. Every shot your opponent fires lands, and if you're getting ganged up by 2 or more ranged opponents, you're probably better off running. I'm sure some of you are going to argue about my lack of skills, but lemme say something. I pvped with a 508dmg 1.5spd krayt scatter and a 650dmg krayt laser carbine. Even when fighting people with uber resist armor, I win most encounters one on one, but that's only because I've invested so much money into my weaponry. For the people who can't afford such weaponry, it's very hard to come out on top in mass pvp.
When you're ganged up on in pvp, the chances of a BH coming out on top is slim to none, simply because we receive no "toughness" nor a remotely decent amount of melee/ranged defense. Hell, a MASTER DANCE HAS BETTER DEFENSE THAN AN MBH! How ridiculous is that? A battle hardened veteran who trained his whole life for combat has less defense than someone who spent their life in the cantina dancing! I believe the devs should take a serious look at the bounty hunter profession and realize that their failure to boost the Bounty Hunter defensive lines while boosting most other elite combat professions defenses serves as a serious unbalance.
I speak from personal experience. I'm an old school BH and it was the first elite profession I ever mastered. The amount of time spent grinding out investigation ALONE is more than enough to grind out 5 other professions, mix and match. Before you start flaming, try and master BH. Once you've mastered it, try it out in pvp and you'll quickly realize where I'm coming from. I've been to both side of the spectrum (hardcore melee vs hardcore ranged) and like i said before, i speak from experience. I urge you to try it out before flaming.
so much for constructive effort. However I want to thank you alot because your post is constructive. If you could be a bit more clear on the exact changes to be made it would be SUPER helpful. I also just want to remind others that if you want to helpo with this SWG community wide effort to fix an issue and set a precendent for this sort of action, please post. Im looking for a Teras Kasi viewpoint on this. Oh yea please recall that im looking at Comparing Masters as the above numbers show. Anyhow if you feel that BH should not recieve any other defensive mods, please state so and why you feel that way. If you think that BH could stand some defensive additions/changes, please post the changes you think could work and why you think that way. Thank you all for not setting this afire with flames and Good Luck to you all.
EwokBaby wrote:
Oh yea, and you forgot to add Commando in there with your bounty hunter for having "no resists", but I'm not complaining. Looks like hybrid professions are just strong enough to not need huge resist bonuses...
Not true, commandos get more than 30 of each at master.
BountyHunters while not having great defensive skills like brawlers etc..
Do have tremendous offensive capabilites , with the LLC , eyeshot and excellent pistol speed !
Bountyhunters are quite formidable in combat with what they have already as many have stated in these forums . I get the impression that some want the Bountyhunter profession to be solo Deathstars smashing everything .
While that would be fun , it would be horrible for game balance .
AmgineEX wrote:
I was MBH, and I am Pistoleer/Fencer/TKM now. I can honestly say that for the amount of skill points a bounty hunter spends to reach master, they lack firepower AND durability. Though as MBH+Pistoleer dabbler, i could solo most mobs and Pvp well enough, the lack of defense has really turned MBH into the zerg of SWG. If you can't stay on the offensive, you lose. Every shot your opponent fires lands, and if you're getting ganged up by 2 or more ranged opponents, you're probably better off running. I'm sure some of you are going to argue about my lack of skills, but lemme say something. I pvped with a 508dmg 1.5spd krayt scatter and a 650dmg krayt laser carbine. Even when fighting people with uber resist armor, I win most encounters one on one, but that's only because I've invested so much money into my weaponry. For the people who can't afford such weaponry, it's very hard to come out on top in mass pvp.
When you're ganged up on in pvp, the chances of a BH coming out on top is slim to none, simply because we receive no "toughness" nor a remotely decent amount of melee/ranged defense. Hell, a MASTER DANCE HAS BETTER DEFENSE THAN AN MBH! How ridiculous is that? A battle hardened veteran who trained his whole life for combat has less defense than someone who spent their life in the cantina dancing! I believe the devs should take a serious look at the bounty hunter profession and realize that their failure to boost the Bounty Hunter defensive lines while boosting most other elite combat professions defenses serves as a serious unbalance.
I speak from personal experience. I'm an old school BH and it was the first elite profession I ever mastered. The amount of time spent grinding out investigation ALONE is more than enough to grind out 5 other professions, mix and match. Before you start flaming, try and master BH. Once you've mastered it, try it out in pvp and you'll quickly realize where I'm coming from. I've been to both side of the spectrum (hardcore melee vs hardcore ranged) and like i said before, i speak from experience. I urge you to try it out before flaming.
Maybe the devs intended things to be this way... Perhaps BH are meant to be very effective against jedi, yet to do that, you compromise some with your effectiveness against other professions.
The only profession I've *ever* been one shot with, was BH. That, imo, says you aren't as bad off as you think you are.
Seena