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Thread: ATTENTION ALL!!! COMBAT BALANCE DISPARITY!!!

Onslaught2k5
Mon Jan 05, 2004 3:45 pm
#131

y can't hit, who cares of they take longer to drop? My point is still valid. Bh doesn't need defensive bonus.


Those bonus shouldn'T stack, that's the real issue




Dhamon Evershade
BubbleVicious
Mon Jan 05, 2004 4:23 pm
#132






nolan007 wrote:


Oh, and we need the missing sword added... we have the cert, but it doesn't exist in the game.






Is too, you just can't equip it :-) TH swears it is being added to the loot tables next build...if they do that scythe is SWEEET...





Arden Gates

Bounty Hunter of Northland Alliance

Making Ahazi a safer place one dead imperial at a time...
TekkWolfe
Mon Jan 05, 2004 4:36 pm
#133


VikaLine wrote:
... The fact is the classes are not supposed to be equal BH should kill 1 on 1 fast not be super human killing machines that rule 1 on 2 or 1 on xx odds.




This is true. I don't expect to be able to hold my own against multiple opponents. However, when it comes to PVP the only way I can survive is if I am in a group. In a one on one situation with any elite combat profession, I lose. Yes, I have ranged KD, but I have to be able to land the shot for that to make any difference. The Matrix type defenses and dodging that I've seen with some of the uber templates is disgusting. It makes no difference how much damage my weapon can put out if I can't hit my target. Should we nerf the other professions so that they are similarly hamstrung? No. Should we make BH a viable PvP profession just like all the other elite combat classes? YES! I'd like to play in the sandbox too, guys.

Kirkegaard Valtor
BH 3-2-2-2
Ahazi



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TrassNimode
Mon Jan 05, 2004 4:37 pm
#134

(Including pre-requesits)

Carbineer
Accuracy: +140
Speed: +65

Bounty Hunter
Accuracy: +110
Speed: +80

Like they all said, BH's are about offense. They have great speed and accuracy mods for only taking up one branch. You get more speed and almost as much accuracy, not to mention some of the best specials, including:

Sprayshot: Arguably the best carbine special. 5x damage modifier and confuse/dizzy/stun.
Confusion shot: Dizzy, which is an ability carbineers don't have.

You get almost as much accuracy with carbine, more speed, and great specials.

Then the pistol. You get just as much speed, and almost as much accuracy, not to mention two DOTs and eyeshot, which is very effective.

Then you get the LLC, the best HW in the game, and with LLC2 can hit for 4k (if you hit, that is, and since the accuracy is low, it is probably only good in PvE, but I havn't tested it out in PvP).

You also get BH missions, which is what BH is all about, and get to hunt Jedi, and soon other PC.

I'm sorry, what was it you were complaining about?



Vane-Bothan Master Carbineer-Radaint.
Tyler-"And why would anybody want this $hit job?"
Jack-"Because it affords him other interesting opportunities."
Tyler-"Like splicing single frames of porno into family films."
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TrassNimode
Mon Jan 05, 2004 4:49 pm
#135

That wasn't quite a complete post, and I feel I should add a conclution.

Bounty Hunters are jus that, Hunters, based on offense. The prey ison defense, not the hunter.Now I'm not trying to tell you what tactics to use or how to use them, just the options you have. I have talked to MBHs and a partial BH (No, not adabbler, he was 4/4/4/0 with some carb). They all make it work. They have a problem with some hybrid melee professions, like TKA/pistoleer, but that's it. Use your offenses man, it's all you have.

And not only do you have a lot of offense, you have such diversity of it. DOTs with the pistol, eyeshot to go for peoples low HAM mind, knockdowns with the carbine and pure power with the LLC.

Also, you can't just hit MBH and expect to be the best. It's about everything that you encorperate. You don't just buy a carbine and call it good, buy a few and make sure you get a good damage slice. Don't just charge into battle, make sure you use foods. And not just some food, use the right food, migrate your stats correctly, ect.

I'm not saying that you are like that, but you couldn't imagine how many people (not just MBH) do newbish stuff like that, expecting to be uber.



Vane-Bothan Master Carbineer-Radaint.
Tyler-"And why would anybody want this $hit job?"
Jack-"Because it affords him other interesting opportunities."
Tyler-"Like splicing single frames of porno into family films."
Jack-"No one knows they saw it, but they all did."
Tyler-"A nice big c0ck..."
BubbleVicious
Mon Jan 05, 2004 5:11 pm
#136






TrassNimode wrote:

I'm not saying that you are like that, but you couldn't imagine how many people (not just MBH) do newbish stuff like that, expecting to be uber.




And those are the only people eyeshot is still effective against. The damage on eyeshot was nerfed severely, any good composite helmet basically makes it not worth the time it takes to fire it, not to mention that you miss 50-75% of the time against a player.



Eyeshot has sucked for awhile now very few BH use it anymore.




Arden Gates

Bounty Hunter of Northland Alliance

Making Ahazi a safer place one dead imperial at a time...
SoonToBeBountyHunter
Mon Jan 05, 2004 6:13 pm
#137

you guys sacrifice defence for dealing alot of damage...*slaps you across the face*


but pikeman,i just don't know lol




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bhkiller102
Mon Jan 05, 2004 7:05 pm
#138

I used to be a BH, (the handle is from my smuggler days), and i totally agree with what the poster said. YOU CAN NOT USE OFFENSE IF U ARE LYING ON THE GROUND DIZZY! BH's have no def vs kd, so how are we supposed to attack when we are on our asses? offense does nothing without d, especially in a pvp system that makes the first kd win.




-Quicksilver-
DarkBShadow
Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:27 pm
#139






BubbleVicious wrote:





nolan007 wrote:


Oh, and we need the missing sword added... we have the cert, but it doesn't exist in the game.






Is too, you just can't equip it :-) TH swears it is being added to the loot tables next build...if they do that scythe is SWEEET...






it's not a sythe it is a new weapon. two-handed sword. look at the pic again. not a scythe. but that sword is sweet and can't wait for it to be added.



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Ludakrishna
Mon Jan 05, 2004 10:41 pm
#140




SoonToBeBountyHunter wrote:

you guys sacrifice defence for dealing alot of damage...*slaps you across the face*


but pikeman,i just don't know lol






damage? haha those bhs do NOTHING IN PVP!!! i laugh at them



LilPup
Daylis
Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:05 am
#141

llc = 1000+dmg at range.... who needs defence?



Pikeman : The only class that couldn't hit the ground if they dropped their weapon.
Pikeman : Doing massive damage; to the air surrounding our target.
Pikeman : You're dead meat, unless you happen to be standing in front of us.
Pikeman : Because the devs were one profession short.
DEVs : Pikeman? Thats a class?
Serenius
Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:25 am
#142

BH is a VERY hard class to truly master. Yeah, it's hard getting through the grind to the top (especially the investigation line), but the true Master Bounty Hunters are very good at what they do. Try being an unarmored Wookiee MBH on Bria named Lurcho. He kills like few others can, despite his total lack of defensive mods or armor. I do agree that BH does need a little bit of loving (in the form of ranged and melee toughness - makes sense if they're constantly being shot/swung at hunting marks), but they're not quite as underpowered as most would believe.




Y Serenius "The Piker" Tolvar Y
"The dev team would never allow any kind of imbalance so that one group of people would "cut swaths" through crowds of people." - Thunderheart
"Oh, serenius. If you shoot 1 more damn head shot at me im going to stick that jawa rifle up your ass!" - Civak
DarthChunk
Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:26 am
#143

awww us sad Pikeman



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