Bounty Hunter Archive

Thread: Bounty Hunters... what can Dev do Right Now??

Ariven
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:18 pm
#105



JaveRel wrote:
I think you BH guys are not seeing this correctly. I used to be a BH and ya it was pretty lame. The thing is I think BH should never have been a class at all. Why do you have to be a replica of Boba Fett to be called a BH? I mean anyone can be a BH but the Devs went and messed it up by giving it a class. It should have been open to any combat profession not like it is now. I don't see why you BHs want to stay in the same vein as everyone else. It gives you guys more flavor and more to choose from. Yes I agree making the whole scout tree better is a great idea but what profession doesn't need some serious revamping?
This is the best they could do on short notice and I think it makes more sense. Why does a BH have to use pistols, carbines, and llc? A TKA could be a BH, so could a pistoleer, a CH, a carbineer, or rifleman. My point is a BH is not a set of skills but more of a decision by a player. This is what the Devs messed up by making you all the same ole formula. Its very boring and now you can mix it up and be more of a unique BH instead of the same old crap.
Jave Rel





EXACTLY!

The BH is the end game, the combat profession you bring to the plate is the MEANS to that end...
SamousNemo
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:19 pm
#106






Southwick wrote:

Samous calm down.

The simple fix is to move jedi hunting to master. This means that you are a mbh that has a weapon line focus.

You could be a mbh with better pistol, carbine, heavy weapon, or rifle skills(yes now you can use a rilfe!) If you decided you could be a brawler bh, also something many have wanted.


Moving jedihunting to master is the best thing to go with this!






I saw nothing in his post that hinted towards moving Jedi hunting to master. Until I see this, I see no reason to calm down. Even it it did go into use, and the only people hunting Jedi were those who have mastered BH, the best chocie for us to do is only go into ONE other profession because we've been gimped by the weapon delay.



-Samous Nemo; Dirty, Lowlife, Bounty Hunter Scum
Former Bounty Hunter Correspondent
Call me "Sam"
Everseeker
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:19 pm
#107

Hmmm... Smuggler0440 / MBH..............


thrill2u
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:20 pm
#108

This is a step in the right direction. There is one major problem I see with it though. While the extra skill points will be welcome,the profession is now much easier to achieve. I kinda feel like I amin an elite class having mstered Mark and Scout. It is also means that those of us who are now BH'swill have worked harder to get here than those who choose to do so after the change is made. Rather than making it easier to become BH, you should make it harder and make the profession better. I know this is meant to be a quick fix, but I'd rather see better changes down the line than sketchy ones right now.



Bossa Okow
Master BH/Pistoleer
Kerxxt
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:21 pm
#109






SamousNemo wrote:


NO!!! I DO NOT WANT MORE SKILL BOXES!!! I WANT THE SKILL BOXES I ALREADY HAVE TO WORK!!!!


Why is this such a difficuly concept to grasp?! Why is everyonemessing their pants because after royally **edit**ing us up the ass today with pub 9, he came into say "hi... keep waiting guys..."


All you are basically telling us is that if we want to be better Bounty Hunters, we should give up on our profession and become something else. Hell, make BH HARDER. Make us spend 250 skill points to master and 120k of combat to novice. But for Pete's sake, FIX US first.


Whoop-dee-doo! Now i can spend more points into Carbineer! I'm still sitting on my Pistol and LLC because of the 3 second delay! Alright!! Now I can actually HIT what I took a mission for, doesn't matter cause I still can't find him!! Sweet! Now I can defense stack like everyone else so I actually stand a chance on killing a Jedi!! But that's pointless since I'm getting paid 15k after spending 10k in buffs!!


You tell us to wait, but in the meantime Jedi are getting more powerful and more numerous. If you KNEW this was going to happen to Jedi, then why on EARTH did you schedule the Jedi revamp (TWO PATCHES!! TWO WHOLE **edit**ING PATCHES!! WHILE I STILL HAVE YET TO SEE ANYTHING BUT DOUBLING OUR XP TO MAKE IT EASIER ON HOLOGRINDERS) before fixing ours?


This is NOT a solution guys. This is the same lame-brained, half-baked thinking we've had shoved up our asses from the start. Creating more problems to fix old ones.



Bring back permadeath






Thank you SamousNemo for helping me to stay focused on the right issue here..../applaud


I was almost completely on the wagon there FOR this change....thanks for taking me off the damn thing before it went over a cliff.

WILDMAN_SOLO
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:21 pm
#110






OckVofad wrote:

The scout skill point requirement is a major reason why I never followed through with becoming a BH. I have several friends who are BHs but i could not get over the fact that they were so weak in PvP. I will now join the ranks and hunt those Jedi. HeHe.


A good compromise given all that this profession has been through.





We dont want compromise we want fixed, and fixed properly not with this band aid rubbish that will just serve to attract the FOTM wannabes. No good will come of this little adventure appart from more nerfs to us further down the road as people cry about all the FOTM dabblers taking out hoardes of people while theyhave their BH tag on.


MORE SKILL POINTS IS NOT THE ANSWER.


FIX WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY DONT GIVE US MORE CRAP SO YOU CAN JUST NERF IT AT A LATER DATE





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aibo220
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:22 pm
#111






JustG wrote:


... There are many many things that we can do to help out your profession, given time.


Some of the things will be addressed bythe ol' "Combat Balance" mantra ... but not soon enough for you I am sure.


Other things are proving VERY difficult for us to track down. The 0 0 0 waypoint issue is quite a bear andwe are putting in still more logging tomorrow, but again, not soon enough for you I am sure.


The Jedi XP issue is requiring programming time which we don't have. We are trying to work it in, but again not soon enough for you.


We want to help out your profession as soon as possible. So that being said, as soon as we can get it through test ...


We are going to remove the Trapping, Hunting, and Survival Scout lines from the Bounty Hunter prerequisites.


This should give you and additional 48 skill points to add to the 33 you had left over for a total of 81 additional point to spend as you please.


This is something that we have been considering for a long time, and wanted to do as part of the CB, but we need you to be as effective as possible against Jedi as soon as possible. This is a start.


Your other issues are known, and in varying stages of development, but we want you to know that things are going to get better. Hopefully rapidly.


This change will be hitting Test Center tomorrow afternoon, and should be Live by Friday.


/salute


- g







JustG... Your attitude is very unsatisfying.


As if we are in the wrong for being upset with our broken professian and don't have enough patience.


Well guess what JustG... We don't have the patience nor should we. You nerfed our professian while buffing others. All BH had was offense which you took away from us with no compensation of defense. And the bountys have been screwed up since launch.


There is no excuse you can make other then to just admitting you are a flake. We are tired of your lies and attitude.


And sure we can wait an entire year for you to fix this professian, but not when we are paying $15 a month. You are working on our time, our dollar. BH is a more favored professian then ID and SL yet you already did ID and planning on SL. Get your act together already.


And then you waste all this time on something stupid like Jedi, which was much better before publish 9, and don't even get that right.


You developers seriously need to get your act together.




"What a piece of 5|-|17 I returned to." [ Tiphini ]
/cough "Damn book." /cough

DraxellX
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:23 pm
#112

Thanks !!! This should of been done months & months ago ! Now I can be a master & still actually make a pvp template. Nicely done.



Drax'el - retired MBH
Southwick
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:23 pm
#113

So samous we should fight, if this is going to be implemented(which it probably will due to the resounding support) then jedi missions have to be moved to master. The weapon delay needs to be removed, and maybe just applied to armor. THis does not change the need for the weapon delay removal or the # 1 issue of droids.


IF THIS IS IMPLEMENTED JEDI HUNTING MUST BE MOVED TO MASTER!



Where life had no value,
Death, sometimes had its price.
That is why the Bounty Killers appeared.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - -- - - -- -- - - -- -- - -- -
MAKE DROIDS WORK OR THIS IS ALL POINTLESS.
FIX THE WEAPON SWITCH
MOVE JEDI HUNTING TO STALKER RANK
GIVE MBH A SIGNIFICANT BOOST TO PLAYER TRACKING(SO THEY CAN BE MBH)
unde
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:24 pm
#114

Why was this post erased, I know the rules and I'm not breaking them. Thanks.


Again, The Bounty Hunter Professionshould be strong enough to stand on its own. I shouldnt be required to dabble in other professions once I reach Master Bounty Hunter in order to make MBH what it should be. Please just fix us by adding more specials, damages. and defense.


-Yoga MBH


Everyone here dosnt not agree with me and I understand that but please dont erase my post I have a right to voice my opinion also.
Neelok
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:24 pm
#115

...? Wow.


This happens now? As I officially close my account (good until end of Aug, I believe)... too bad. Oh well, maybe it's the subscription cancellations that contributed to some pro-active moves by the devs. But let me be fair, credit where credit is due: kudos to the dev's for showing a _sign_ of listening to the masses.


Good luck BH's.




Neelok N Master Bounty Hunter (pre CU)N Amateur Rodian N Corbantis

Korvinus N Smuggler N Human N Corbantis

xFLIKx
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:25 pm
#116


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Message Edited by xFLIKx on 06-29-2004 04:26 PM



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DarthKaelan
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:25 pm
#117






MagusZDark wrote:

Seriously people- This isn't a fix to the Bounty Hunter profession at all. I would've much rather seen something done with our skill points to make us stand on our own rather than dabble into other professions. Too much black and white thinking here...







You realize that black and white thinking is exactly what you're employing here, right?


Full 217 point requirement for MBH is right, anything else is wrong is what you're advocating. That's as black and white as it gets.


We're being given a bone here along with some communication for a change. Be thankful.


I'd like to back up some other things that have been said -- definitely keep Master Marksman as a pre-req, but change the LLC to be a rifle instead of a heavy weapon, and convert our HW xp over to Rifle xp (so we don't suddenly lose the use of it if we haven't picked up a rifle since Marksman )


It would also be *extremely* good if we could have a conversion feature similar to what the Jedi are going through - a one time ability to give up skills and reclaim skill points, then go ahead and put them where we want to for our build. Confirm that they're where we want, and then away we go.






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Krassk

Pre CU Master Bounty Hunter and Master Privateer Pilot

Vigo of the Eclipse Consortium

Tergill, Naboo
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