Bounty Hunter Archive

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AndrewThrawn wrote:

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MeciniaLua wrote:

And how are you suppose to know who you are hunting if you can't see the name, and who on earth would accept a mission without knowing how much they would get paid.

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Just because they don't appear in the terminal anymore does not mean they won't appear in your datapad. But it would make ppl. that like to hunt the same Jedi have to accept every single mission first to look what Jedi is behind his mission. Maybe it could get even further and you will know the name only if you start a seeker and he finds your mark.

Message Edited by AndrewThrawn on 06-05-2005 03:50 AM

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and the informant has the bio signature but he doesnt know on who? did he just find lots of bio sigs lying on the ground, pick them up, and when you come to him with a mission it just so happens to match?

why would there be no names on the terminals? the people giving the missions are saying "we want you to kill this jedi, we know hes evil, we dont know his name, we DO know he is an imperial and he is awake right now, but heres a million credits for a jedi whos NAME WE DONT KNOW"?

how would you like to go to dant, "heres a mission to kill some creatures. we dont know what they are, but heres a 10k credits, we also dont know if it will be bugged when you get there or not, but good luck just the same" you get there and it is level 54 huurtons for your level 80 group. now this still sounds like a good idea to you?

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Turel_ wrote:

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Tanks wrote:

• Successive failed missions getting BHs on terminals.

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Bounty Hunters Creed

Rule #3:

"No Hunter Shall Slay Another Hunter."

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that will never work anymore. with all of the respec BH and some old timers, they just dont care about the creed anymore. its pretty sad. they would rather prey on each other than eradicate the jedi scum in the universe.

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lifeisdeath wrote:

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Turel_ wrote:

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Tanks wrote:

• Successive failed missions getting BHs on terminals.

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Bounty Hunters Creed

Rule #3:

"No Hunter Shall Slay Another Hunter."

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that will never work anymore. with all of the respec BH and some old timers, they just dont care about the creed anymore. its pretty sad. they would rather prey on each other than eradicate the jedi scum in the universe.

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I personally would not hunt another BH...but at least I would have a better chance at killing *one of my own then a 120K Jedi.

Besides, you guys still don't see it.....BHs hunting BHs....how many Jedi do you know that like to play BOTH sides of the Jedi and BH profession fence. To me, this is nothing more then giving Jedi ANOTHER shot at killing the BH who just tried to kill them by using thier BH alt.

Message Edited by Tucheck on 06-05-2005 10:04 AM

another bunch of craptastic ideas.

This one cracked me up:

"CrashNgoBoom wrote:

LMAO, this is too funny. Everyone thinks it's all great to go hunting unsuspecing players..."

Jedi who get vis are "unsuspecting"? If I became a jedi (especially as long as it takes, and getting to experience the BH profession either personally or through friends/guildies), I'd know that one of the first things I'd have to watch out for would be BH's.

If you're a jedi, and you don't suspect that the blue dot coming up on you is going to be gunning for you...well, go on not suspecting it.

Been thinking about this one...

• Eliminating Jedi names and bounty amounts from terminals while listing faction and online status.

and how there are serious flaws to the idea that would have to be overcome.

1. Knowing online status is good, but without knowing which Jedi you're looking for, it becomes downright problematic. How will you know that your target doesn't logoff in the next 30 seconds after accepting the mission? There would have to be a mechanism to track the anonymous target's online status (and no that does not mean "Your target is not online" on your next seeker launch).
   
   


2. Anonymous online status will provide opportunity for Jedi to game the system. Logoff for 5 minutes, return, grind for a while, logoff for 20 minutes, repeat, etc. Clever methods to frustrate BH's will no doubt evolve as well. Would also be chasing a lot of house sitting heroes.
   
   


3. I believe it was stated somewhere else (Jedi forum) that the idea would be 1.5 Jedi vs. 1.0 BH, but BH's have the advantage of deciding when to attack. However, this advantage would be muted by the fact that Jedi will know that the bounty hunter does not know who he is targeting. Further, unless the Jedi is in a major city, the Jedi is going to see a player dot on rader, and if you're a known BH, any advantage quickly dissolves. Of course Jedi can see on radar right now, but the point is that you the BH have no advantage because you may have to get fairly close to your target to identify, whereas the Jedi may be able to identify you several hundred meters out.
   
   


4. In conjunction with #3, the whole stalking and intellligence game would be thrown out the window with anonymous missions. You'll know nothing about your target until you're on top of them, so much for the element of surprise. It won't be possible to prepare a strategy for the encounter prior, aslike now if you know some things about the Jedi's abilities, style, habits, etc. Is the Jedi a known runner at the first sign of a blue dot? If so, chances are you wouldn't even bother with a target like that. Once again, if your target likes to hang out in Theed or Coronet, you might be able to blend in with the crowd, but out in the open they'll know Mr. BH is coming on radar.
   

LOL It's really nice to know that it's not just the Jedi forum that attracts the whiners of this game.

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Sunrunner_Cixx wrote:

that is 100% rumor Garva shut that down and its is not true.

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Garva can say what Garva wants to say; but I personally heard this said directly by devs while at fan fest in multiple forums. In Friday's Jedi forum the reasoning for adding mind costs to Jedi heals was explained by the devs hosting the session in explicit detail.

BTW, Tanks was sitting in the front row of the same forum...

Message Edited by slappydude on 06-05-2005 12:14 AM

Well I've read a lot of replies to this and it seems there is a lot of disagreement and whining about the 2nd point, the one about BHs ending up on the terms after sucessive failures. I would just like to point out how ridiculous that is. You guys hunt jedi who really don't enjoy it and would avoid it if they could, and yet at the suggestion of you receiving the same treatment you get all angry and "If this happened I would cancel my account". Reap what you sow chaps etc.

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CrashNgoBoom wrote:

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Tucheck wrote:

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CrashNgoBoom wrote:

LMAO, this is too funny. Everyone thinks it's all great to go hunting unsuspecing players, but as soon as their on the recieving end of the blaster fire they get all whinny. I think this is a great idea. Big deal, you get your salad tossed by a Master Defender. It's part of the risk of hunting, not just taking missions you know you can win. Master Defenders are by no means impossible to kill, I know because I've done it. It just takes some stratagy and the fight lasts longer. Not just run in and kill em before they know what hit them. As for being "forced" to hunt a knight solo as someone said earlier in the thread, nobody is forcing you to hunt anyone. Jedi's take a risk on what used to be a possibilty and is now a certianty of getting on the terms. But most of you cry when you get a chance to get hunted for sucking. So what? If you die, you die. You don't lose days worth of xp, you just clone, and get back to business. Quit bishing and welcome the new content and twist to the game if we get it.

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I'm sorry...I must have missed the BH title in one of the 5 titles you have listed in your sig. Of course you can have an opinion...it just doesn't mean much.

Although...gee, I can't figure out "why in the world" YOU would support it? These "changes" are just pathetic and you know it.

I will say one thing....I alwyas wondered if Tanks knew how helpless and insignificant the BH community felt most of the time. I guess this proves he does know how it feels.

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Better?

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Drop your own mission and it MIGHT be. I will never recognize a Bounty Hunter that is an alt of a Jedi. I'm allowed to be wrong about this...and you have nothing to prove to me, so let's just leave it alone. There is just something about a Jedi that loves to claim they have the interest of a Bounty Hunter in mind. If my son and daughter EVER have to compete against eachother...I don't think I could watch. It's just too big a conflict of interest.

"Oh yeah....I'm a MBH and I care, but in case you didn't notice it was hidden by my Jedi title"...riiight!

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BHs go after Jedi to make Jedi a hard class and to give the BH content. The BHs are SUPPOSED to prevent Jedi from amassing XP quickly, so that the profession is hard to advance in (although it's not hard to obtain or to keep, as the devs had promised.) As it is the alpha class, people shouldn't expect to master a full prof in a week, or even a month with Jedi.

Secondly, to address the other player bounties... one of the reasons BHs can go against Jedi is that they're so strong. Jedi are supposed to be able to take several normal combat professions at once. A smuggler though... well, last time I checked, a Smuggler has far fewer combat trees. Any BH with an additional combat profession WILL be able to take a Smuggler. It would be no contest.

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The problem is this:

Your "content" as you put it is a person who is paying SOE good money to play a game. This person is able to reach padawan with absolutely ZERO PVP experience. This person is now forced to group to gain XP at a decent rate.

Pre-CU a padawan could grind solo effectively to stay off the terms. They can no longer do so. SOE has made them group for XP. Basically, when the CU went into effect, the devs never really thought through the effect it would have on the padawan community. They simply never looked at the fact that a padawan playing a couple of hours a night a few nights week in a solo capacity could takemultiple years to complete their profession! When I mentioned this to a dev at the fest, he at first didn't believe but when we did the math his jaw dropped.

What the devs did state was that pitting two players against each other in such a violent way is bad for the overall health of the game they see this and want to fix it. CL 80 BH's taking CL 36 padawan missions for whatever reason is bad for the game. So if the overall goal of a game is to have fun, what fun is there to be constantly griefed by other playerswho believe you exist solely for their amusement and content and believe their role isto punish the padawan and make his time spent playing the game miserable.

This acrimonius relationship simply has to end and ending this relationship means that both sides of the conflict will see changes made. As with any change, a few vocal people will cry foul; but most will take it in stride.

BTW, I do find it somewhat ironic that you are crying foul on being given the opportunity to take on CL65 and lower smuggler missions when the main problem that currently exists between BH/jedi is that fact that so many BH intentionally take on CL65 and lower padawan missions.