Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: last ditch being used as a first strike -exploit-
1.Kashyyk
2.Houses
shutup and play
WookieOgre wrote:
BH's using the excuses such as "the BH just used superior tactics" is about as stupid as saying the special is an exploit.
dustinss5 wrote:
What gives you jedi the nerve to whine about such things when you have stuff like
1.Kashyyk
2.Houses
shutup and play
What gives you BH the right to generalize all Jedi? Maybe there are Jedi who dont use Kashyyyk or Houses because they also think its not the right route to take?
Complain about Kashyyyk and Houses all you want if you feel they are exploits, Jedi have every right to complain about BH using exploits.
LOL. It's not an exploit.
The devs made it so LD no longer incaps you for a reason.
An exploit is something which gives you a sure fire win. For example having 4 friends spam your target with a command that pops a window up on their screen no matter what. Right after they start spamming you attack. There is nothing the target can do to defend themselves.
Maybe LD is the new 'combat medic' template of nOOb pvper BHers, or just for laughs on jedi knight attacks.
Aura
Valor
AI
Force Armor
Defender 4400
PSG
Ranged defense food
Ranged defense clothing
Any combinationof these things would help to mitigate away the damage done by the initiallast ditch. The Smuggler/BH has a 50% chance of missing. If you are at Saber xxx4 you have a 20% chance to block it (25% at MLS). Throw on Valor, and that goes up to 65%. Thats a 50-80% chance of the shot not damaging you at all before it even comes out of the gun. It also takes the BH down to 1 health, so afterward you can incap him if you so much as fart in his general direction.
If you survive the initial hit, that's a dead BH. Every time. If you pay attention to your surroundings and prepare well, every time you see an unfamiliar doton your radar, you'll survive the tactic and kill the BH. I think that the LD strategy is a good one because it punishes the grinding jedi for not being aware of the people around them...
You should know a BH is coming for you no later than when they're 256m away from you. If you arent grinding with your radar out to 256m and watching it intently for BH's, you deserve to get killed. if you are AFK grinding, you deserve far worse than anything the BH can do to you.
Message Edited by JCWeeble on 06-30-2005 02:20 PM
Eskie wrote:
dustinss5 wrote:
What gives you jedi the nerve to whine about such things when you have stuff like
1.Kashyyk
2.Houses
shutup and play
What gives you BH the right to generalize all Jedi? Maybe there are Jedi who dont use Kashyyyk or Houses because they also think its not the right route to take?
Complain about Kashyyyk and Houses all you want if you feel they are exploits, Jedi have every right to complain about BH using exploits.
It can go both ways, genius. What gives you Jedi the right to Generalize us Bounty Hunters? Not all of us use Last Ditch as a first strike.
Think before you post, Jedi.
by the way, even if we did use first strike, it's perfectly legal. You can't tell us when to use our specials.
Message Edited by dustinss5 on 06-30-2005 01:15 PM
dustinss5 wrote:
Eskie wrote:
dustinss5 wrote:
What gives you jedi the nerve to whine about such things when you have stuff like
1.Kashyyk
2.Houses
shutup and play
What gives you BH the right to generalize all Jedi? Maybe there are Jedi who dont use Kashyyyk or Houses because they also think its not the right route to take?
Complain about Kashyyyk and Houses all you want if you feel they are exploits, Jedi have every right to complain about BH using exploits.
It can go both ways, genius. What gives you Jedi the right to Generalize us Bounty Hunters? Not all of us use Last Ditch as a first strike.
Think before you post, Jedi.
by the way, even if we did use first strike, it's perfectly legal. You can't tell us when to use our specials.Message Edited by dustinss5 on 06-30-2005 01:15 PM
When did I generalize Bounty hunters? I said any bounty hunter trying to use last ditch as a first strike is trying to exploit. Thats exactly the subgroup of bounty hunters I wanted to address, I never said anything like "all BHs are exploiting".
To the smugglers who came here saying LD should not be nerfed - I fully agree with you. I dont mind LD a single bit, and I dont mind if it is used during a fight.
This only thing I do mind is BHs picking up Smuggler 4xxx to get that special, and then artifially lowering their health in order to be able to use LD as a first strike.
I am really sorry for Smugglers, because their profession seems always to be dabbled in by BH and Jedi alike for their specials, which tend to be powerful since smugglers dont have a lot of combat abilities, so the ones they have are great.
I am not calling for a nerf on LD, I am saying its use as a first strike by BHs dabbling in Smuggler needs to be addressed.
Unlike many aspects of the game, whining isn't limited to a single profession or handful of professions.
DarkVader9 wrote:
Ok i am going to have to say this in cap lock and pretend i am a jedi playing my alt bh.
GO TO THE SMUGGLERFORUMS YOU STUPID REBEL JEDIE I HATE YOU ALL. I GOT DECAY AHHHHHHHHHHHH GO TO HELL.
I sound like a whining jedi don't i ?
Message Edited by DarkVader9 on 06-30-2005 03:58 PM
DarkVader9 wrote:
That was a joke and Last ditch ain't a bh special. anyone can use this on any profso go post in every forums then and leave us bhs alone.I know everyone whines but why blame bh for last ditch is it not even a bh move it is a smuggler so this post should be in smuggler not bh forums i go fix it now.Post here at this link that i madehttp://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=smuggler&message.id=199035Message Edited by DarkVader9 on 06-30-2005 03:58 PM
It aint a BH special, but BHs are the only ones being able to use it as a first strike, which is what this whole complaint is about. Nobody is complaining about LD being used in general, only about BHs being able to use it as a first strike. So BH and Jedi boards are the only relevant boards for this issue, since it can only be used as a first strike by non-SF BHs on Jedi marks.