Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: BH Loot and Complaints
MBH is the best overall defensive ranged profession in game, which alot of people picked up for PVE purpose, not for Jedi hunting- and the more Jedi missions I pick up, the more master defenders I am meeting, it's almost a required discipline for Jedi now and with master defender or half of defender you're able to solo nearly anything in game right now.
Vicci A'Tivo - Elder "in your face" Bounty Hunter
ob-gli wrote:
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However, if people are running BH missions for HOURS at end, the law of averages will catch up and if anything is droppable, it will drop. I do not think that is bad considering the amount of time and effort involved. You got a much better return on your investment of time, and effort hunting Krayts or Nightsisters or Acklayprior to CU. You still do hunting DJK, DJM, or Arrukans missions on Talus they are the only other things droping loot thats any good with maybe a few others also...fix Krayt loot and the Jedi will stop complaning IMO... "
The drop rate cannot be compared ..sadly... out of everyone one of these npc bh missions , they all dropped atleast 1 thing worth keeping.
auakauns and djm consistantly drop items that instantly get deleted and serve absolutely no purpose in game what-so-ever, or in theaukaun missioncase, they drop nothing 9 out of 10 times...
"Items that get deleted and server absolutely no purpose... "
It is good that NPC missions means something (not just for grinding up to master bounty hunter). Before this change, there was only one thing to do - hunt player Jedi (as a MBH). So I welcome this as a nice change as a good complement to hunt player Jedi.
Sometimes the loot is really good (I got a good tape and have done 180+ missions up to this date) and not as common as every onethinks.
So I hope the don't nerf this (at all) to oblivion.
Edit: Did a spellcheck and added some text
Message Edited by Virtuell on 08-08-2005 10:47 AM
iskareot wrote:
ob-gli wrote:
Tanks wrote:
Posted from my reply to another thread.
It is interesting that most people beleive that this is a zero sum game. A lot of the posts I have seen are "BHs got nice loot, it should either be nerfed or everyone should have it". And they are correct...
Excuse me, but prior to CU BHs could not solo Nightsisters, or Gorax, or Krayts or Acklayfor loot.A lot of you other combat professions could do that.Ya , they were swordsmen/doc or riflemen/doc... thats 2 proffs ,and everyone could grind to either one and do whatever they pleased. Some choose to kill jedi for 226k a pop , some choose to be loot whores ,and grind a pve temp.
I did not hear crafters complain that a Rifleman/TKM (or other templates)was able to loot any high level mob in the game prior to CU. Now that the BH NPC marks are worth doing, and loot is dropping I do not understand the complaints. Of course you didnt , they are Crafters ... they would beridiculed and flamed repeatedlyif someone was dumb enough to say this on a public forum...
Heck, I saw complaints even on the Jedi forums. They seem to forget that they get a second character slot on the same server. Should we lobby for everyone to get that or have it removed? Fencers and Swordsman would love to have access to Lightsabers as well.. They have a 2nd slot because jedi is a forced pvp professions....gankers can show up at anytime while you are logged in as a jedi , which isnt fair if someone just wants to hang out and chat , or go shopping etc...
Also, a lot of the posts I have seen here give the impression that the drops are uber on a regular basis. I have run about 20 missions so far (about 5 hours). All I have gotten were Smuggler slicing components and a few BH armor schems. I have yet to loot ANY CAs.
However, if people are running BH missions for HOURS at end, the law of averages will catch up and if anything is droppable, it will drop. I do not think that is bad considering the amount of time and effort involved. You got a much better return on your investment of time, and effort hunting Krayts or Nightsisters or Acklayprior to CU.
i fail to see why you even posted this . The point being conveyed by the masses is , you haveacess to 2 things no one else has.. decent loot from running npc missions.. and 1 on 1 duels with jedi for possibly 200k+ ...
jedi are also ticked off that , prems arent dropping ,the devs say they are working on the issues ,yet bh get some of the nicest loot in game right now,and its been confirmed as being Too easy by some of you... we have to assemble a saber out of pearals or crystals that can randomly tune to crap , or tune to something worthwhile ... all the while your class and every other class can loot 190dmg tissues and have great damage weaopns made with lower SAC than 95 ,which is the lowest ive heard any saber SAC cost going to. or not even have to worry about looting tissues because most weapons are crafting to alot higher max dmg than any saber...
I swear, you miss the hole boat didn't you? THIS IS CHOICE.. Oddly this is no different then JEDI... CHOICE!
You have access to it, BUT ITS WORK ... See your the type I hope to hell is not a Jedi, your missing the whole boat on this.
It also tells me that you have not been in the game long enough to do the old BH grind and have no idea how crappy NPC missons have been over the last two years, so as a Knight I can safely say since I did BH Twice to go Spit.
Just because you did not plan your Jedi and seem mad about Pearls... you need to go back to worrying about our class and stay away from the BH's on this .. (God I never thought I'd say that)..lol They are having some fun and its not costing one RL player his time for once.
HiJiiNks wrote:
your wrong Tanks
Before the CU a BH can solo a NS elder i did it
all you need was novice comando for the luncher pistols and smuggler FD
and at that time it was a long run around dath and when the elder was getting the best of you FD wait tell she walk away 20m stand up and start shooting
Message Edited by HiJiiNks on 08-07-2005 06:05 PM
Message Edited by HiJiiNks on 08-07-2005 06:08 PM
Just goes to show, some people are idiots.
I dont' see anything wrong with BH NPC loot being good. I mean, heck, if I can manage to kill 10 of these guys, I've pretty much paid up the city for a week, and the loot is just extra goodies.
I think I understand where most of the complaints are coming from now, there are weapon components that are dropping that are pretty dam uber. SEA's can be looted by anyone with common sense, BH armor whoopie do......BUT a weapon component that can not be matched by anything in game is something that will eventually get the nerf bat.
So sad too, I was hoping to loot some uber stuff but the drop rate is rather rare IMO. Hopefully that will prevent the devs from nerfing the Powercells and scopes (there are others but those are the most notorious) but just looking into the WS forum I can't see people stop asking for nerfs.Devs will eventually give in, they always do.
WNxSaKeN wrote:
xur-soma wrote:
Tanks wrote:
Posted from my reply to another thread.
It is interesting that most people beleive that this is a zero sum game. A lot of the posts I have seen are "BHs got nice loot, it should either be nerfed or everyone should have it". - Most of the loot is for is smugglers or can be sold anyway so they will end up getting it oneway or another...I am not a big fan of BH armor just want to work on the mando so most if not all the loot I get is sold on the forms anyway,unless I can use it myself.
Excuse me, but prior to CU BHs could not solo Nightsisters, or Gorax, or Krayts or Acklay for loot. A lot of you other combat professions could do that. Very true I picked up master Swordsman/bralwer pre-cu just to loot NS and Krayts.
I did not hear crafters complain that a Rifleman/TKM (or other templates) was able to loot any high level mob in the game prior to CU. Now that the BH NPC marks are worth doing, and loot is dropping I do not understand the complaints. If they want it that bad go BHor buy it on the forms the loot is no better than other elite mobs, and other than BH schems you can get all the loot they drop from other NPC's or Space anyway.
Heck, I saw complaints even on the Jedi forums. They seem to forget that they get a second character slot on the same server. Should we lobby for everyone to get that or have it removed? Fencers and Swordsman would love to have access to Lightsabers as well.
Also, a lot of the posts I have seen here give the impression that the drops are uber on a regular basis. I have run about 20 missions so far (about 5 hours). All I have gotten were Smuggler slicing components and a few BH armor schems. I have yet to loot ANY CAs. I have looted alot and I agree the best to things i got was a CA +10 rifle speed sold for 6mil, and a WS loot for guns sold for 12mil...2 nice loots out of about 40 NPC's over 2days I would say. Still pays better than hunting Jedi ( I loot for money so I dont need it but still kinda stupid IMO )
However, if people are running BH missions for HOURS at end, the law of averages will catch up and if anything is droppable, it will drop. I do not think that is bad considering the amount of time and effort involved. You got a much better return on your investment of time, and effort hunting Krayts or Nightsisters or Acklay prior to CU. You still do hunting DJK, DJM, or Arrukans missions on Talus they are the only other things droping loot thats any good with maybe a few others also...fix Krayt loot and the Jedi will stop complaning IMO...
As a player who loots alot, I would say MBH got a good sorce for money to pay for the ADK's,Guns, Armor,Food, and all the other stuff they need to hunt Jedi and thats a good thing... Its far from the best sorce of loot in the game though even in this broken loot system we got now!...
You see.. my char has been in existance since launch.. never been a crafter as I have no interest and grinding missions is slow money
I have NEVER seen more than 8 million on this account at any one time.. now if you.. getting 12 million.. 6 million.. in 2 days of looting probably solo.. thats just lame cause If I want those kinds of credits it would require me becoming a BH.. which I really dont want to do
So those of us that dont want to become a crafter/BH get shafted credit wise due to no other way to solo and get high end loot that fast
Message Edited by WNxSaKeN on 08-07-2005 11:14 PM
I see - this is what happens when politics enters gaming. You don't like that we can earn money, so you go and rather than figuring out what you can do to earn money, you want to take it from us. Spoken like a liberal.
Anyway, I have made and spent a ton of money in this game - I struggled at times, and I have done well at times. And you know what? Prior to October, I was never a BH or a crafter.
Especially with kashyyyk and the loots out there now, there are ways for EVERYONE to make money - they just have to figure it out what it is. Just don't come here wanting to punish us because you can't figure out how to make money for yourself....
ZionHalcyon wrote:
I see - this is what happens when politics enters gaming. You don't like that we can earn money, so you go and rather than figuring out what you can do to earn money, you want to take it from us. Spoken like a liberal.
MEGA-DITTOS!!!
Duragoth wrote:
TANKS is right.
Personally I don't get it. We run greater risks then any other profession. We don't know what kind of Jedi we're hunting till we've already accepted their mission, with these new missions we don't even know what kind of NPC we're off to fight. Like the DEVs have said in the past, "the greater the risk the greater the rewards."
Ok, more risk and more difficult = more reward ? so what do say what is more difficult: a5 Day-Grid BH (that can decide if he wants to hunt a jedi and does not loose anything) or a 5 month-Grid Jedi (that gets hunted if he wants to or not and can loose over 200k XP) ? BAD argument. I think a free second Avatar is a pretty good reward for this grind...don't you? Not to mention the fact that you open up the possiblility of having a combat template that is 1.5 times stronger then anyone else in the game.
Beside: Why dont overt ppl get better loot then? that more difficult then BH cause they can be attacked when ever they are online? Compared: Dancer and Crafter no loot, Normal Fighters normal loot, BH a bit better, Overt realy better then BH, Jedi 5 times better then a BH ...... realy realy BAD argument Overt player that run NPC missions have just as good of a chance at great loot as any BH. I know because I run alot of these Factional missions, on top of that an Overt player can also use their faction point they receive from doing mission to buy factional perks.
Duragoth wrote:
One final thought, Bounty Hunters are one of the biggest buyers of good in the game. We have to buy weapons, armor, foods, meds, slices, and vehicles on a regular basis. Yet many times we have been shuned from many player cities, and outcasted by many more player. So now that we can take some time out to help put goods into the game we have to deal with cries of nerf. I don't care where you're from, being a Bounty Hunter isn't easy.
I think Jedi are the the biggest buyers.... their stuff is much more worth then that of a Bh..... A prem pearl goes for min 10 mio, you need around 15 pearls to get the tunes.... thats more than any BH-Weapon and armor together :-) k, thats not crafted but someone gets the cash.... Most Jedi don't buy armor, weapons, or meds. Most Jedi try to hunt down pearls {both for the rewards and the XP} the only thing you guys have to buy is food and sometimes resources for your saber {but really your second Avatar can easily be used to provide this for you at no chanrge} In the end a MBH will spend more credits in this game then any Jedi will. So quitcrying about your pearls that you can go find yourself (and yes I know Premies aren't dropping)
Forgot to add: My rebuttle in red.
Message Edited by Duragoth on 08-08-2005 01:50 PM