Bounty Hunter Archive

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Geauxx wrote:

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Tamianx wrote:

*SNIP* to save cyberspace.

Stated in several of my posts, but here we go:

A- The concept of the BH profession is to provide a service to a fictional person to hunt down and kill/capture the mark.

B- Expounding on A, the idea is you get the mission, get the details, track down/hunt the mark, study the mark, devise a plan, attack and either win/lose.

By seeing a Jedi, then pulling them off the terms is exploiting the system by going from the first right to the last part without the 'hunt'. This includes those that participate in GCW (whats left of it) and are given names by their friends to look up on the Terms (you know damn well this is not what was intended). That was not the design, and thus the change. You also know there were many BH's focusing on a single Jedi to make thier life misrable and cause debt .. this is called grief, sorry to say .. and is circumventing the design.

Ill reitterate so you understand .. the design was to be you receive your mission, for you to hunt down and study your mark, for you to devise a strategy, for you to engage when you feel it is the appropriate time, and for you to be rewarded if you are successful. Any deviations from this design is flat out abuse.

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You discription of the BH system is pretty accurate. However you neglect to touch one important point. How are the Jedi's getting back on the terminals? They are gaining visibility.When this happens the BH steps wil become:

1. for you to hunt down and study your mark. The Jedi running around on the BF


2. for you to devise a strategy. Watch him to see how often he heals, Cloaks, Saberthrows etc.


3. receive your mission . Accept the Mission.


4. for you to engage when you feel it is the appropriate time. Most BH attack the Jedi when he is low on health and is engaged with several other players


5. for you to be rewarded if you are successful Ifa BHdb'sthey get the money
   

It's the same steps just in a different order. Just as the saying "Criminals is stupid" goes the same can be said for Jedi getting on the terms then wondering how they lose XP and die.

Let's look at this from a different view. For this discussion let's say that you are aplayer in a faction.There is a quest that allows you to gain XP and Credits from killing a certain opposingFaction Player. Do youmean to tell me that you wouldnot attack him in a huge PvP Battle in order to complete your quest?

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Um .. your agreeing with me about what is happening right this moment. Your 1-3 is out of order as to what it SHOULD be .. 3 should be first, and then 1 nad 2 follows. Thats what this change will accomplish .. anonimity from some level. If you receive the name downstream there is just no issue for all these concerns. If you HAVE the mission, and happen to be participating in GCW then sure, kill away .. but the system was not designed for you to sit a term getting names from your guildmates, looking them up on the terms, then going back and killing them.

With the names off the terms and not given until somepoint downstream the issue is gone (or extreamly hard to abuse).

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Growlan wrote:

this is just stupid, removing bounty names? whoever came up with that idea is just ... i can't think of words to descibe it. who EVER heard of abounty hunter looking for a mark that they have no idea who it is? i need you to go collect a fugitive in New York, i don't know their name but they should be in that city now go get them. er....

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No, it's more like your guild tells you "I need you to find this fugitive, I don't know what his or her name is, but I did manage to acquire this bio sample from the scene. You know how to track your target now.... Go get 'em!"

-Bux

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Azrielen wrote:

OK, this house TEF thing is still unclear to me. Is it unclear to anyone else?

All I want to know is: If I am attacked by a BH and I DO NOT attack him back, can I run into my house? IF I'm reading it correctly...no. Once the battle has started, it's escape or die. NO house-hiding.

Yeah, call me a chicken or whatever, but I'm just starting out and getting killed by a very rude BH that calls me names, spits on me, and talks trash is not my idea of fun. (Two out of three of the BHs that have killedme have been extremely rude, even to the point of threatening my life outside of the game one time, which I found more than a little disturbing.) I'd rather run to a safe place and log. Will that no longer be possible? (Unless I find a large body of water...hehe....)

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Azrielen wrote:

Yeah they just posted to explain more. Blix did.

This royally sucks. Why can't I run? Why can't I run to the safe haven my guild has specifically for this. Yes, I'm afraid. I'm being attacked by a person that is more skilled at fighting than I am, with my worthless light stick. Why can't I get away safely?

The only way to make it fair is to make it so a half-template Padawan can take on afull-template MBH/etc. Then maybe i'd stand a chance of lasting more than 2 hits from his uber weapon of doom that he paid 20 mil for.

Whatever, this is just silly. There is no way to fix this. And this is a slap in the face. I'm being forced to stand up and fight now? Well if that's the case, i'll lose 100% of the time....how is that fun?

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Jedi_Xan wrote:

Moved Player Bounty Hunting to the Master Bounty Hunter skill Box

Bounty Hunter Jedi missions (1) no longer list Jedi names and (2) prevent you from determining Jedi’s level via mission payout

Hmm. Wow, looks like you gotta pay to play. How many of you guys are not MASTER BH's? Oopps, your jedi hunting days are over.

Message Edited by Jedi_Xan on 07-05-2005 10:21 AM

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Wow, you really are clueless, aren't you?

The CU made master BH valuable enough as it is. If you wanted to hunt the Jedi (and be good at it) you picked up MBH anyhow. There's probably only a handful of players out there who still toy around with the old 3xxx combos.

The only people this patch helps are the Jedi grinding on Kashyyyk. Previously, we could go to their grinding spots, copy down names and instances, then run back and scan the terms. Now with names removed we can't even do that. Sure, the House-TEF is a nice change, but considering 80% of my marks are on a planet where you can't place a house, this doesn't really help me out, does it?

They really are making this game either :

Play a Jedi, or go play WoW.

Profession: Bounty Hunter

NPC Bounty missions will now work properly. The Mark will now be of appropriate difficulty based on the difficulty of the mission
Moved Player Bounty Hunting to the Master Bounty Hunter skill Box
Bounty Hunter Jedi missions (1) no longer list Jedi names and (2) prevent you from determining Jedi’s level via mission payout


Profession: Jedi

FS Village, Phase 4:
Increased the frequency of the Sith Shadow Pirates spawn to make the Village Assault (Ranged Speed / Melee Defense) quest is now easier to complete
Players that are using force cloaked will no longer be targetable
Jedi heals will no longer cost Force and Mind if the target does not require healing

I find this laughable!!! Seriously.....

It took MAYBE 4 weeks for the Devs to fix being able to target a cloaked Jedi....

But it's BEEN 4 MONTHS (and counting) to keep a Jedi from running into a house after attacking a BH.

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Corvett wrote:

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Tucheck wrote:
Profession: Bounty Hunter

NPC Bounty missions will now work properly. The Mark will now be of appropriate difficulty based on the difficulty of the mission
Moved Player Bounty Hunting to the Master Bounty Hunter skill Box
Bounty Hunter Jedi missions (1) no longer list Jedi names and (2) prevent you from determining Jedi’s level via mission payout


Profession: Jedi

FS Village, Phase 4:
Increased the frequency of the Sith Shadow Pirates spawn to make the Village Assault (Ranged Speed / Melee Defense) quest is now easier to complete
Players that are using force cloaked will no longer be targetable
Jedi heals will no longer cost Force and Mind if the target does not require healing

I find this laughable!!! Seriously.....

It took MAYBE 4 weeks for the Devs to fix being able to target a cloaked Jedi....

But it's BEEN 4 MONTHS (and counting) to keep a Jedi from running into a house after attacking a BH.

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I am not sure what you are smokeing but you need to pass that stuff down. It has been 8 weeks for both since the CU came out.

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Okay puffy....The TEF changes were made WEEKS before the CU went live. It has been MONTHS since the TEF problems were first around. I rememeber fighting MANY Jedi (PRE-CU) that had a great time running in and out the heal and regen. I look for my FIRST SS to get a date.

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Tucheck wrote:

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Corvett wrote:

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Tucheck wrote:
Profession: Bounty Hunter

NPC Bounty missions will now work properly. The Mark will now be of appropriate difficulty based on the difficulty of the mission
Moved Player Bounty Hunting to the Master Bounty Hunter skill Box
Bounty Hunter Jedi missions (1) no longer list Jedi names and (2) prevent you from determining Jedi’s level via mission payout


Profession: Jedi

FS Village, Phase 4:
Increased the frequency of the Sith Shadow Pirates spawn to make the Village Assault (Ranged Speed / Melee Defense) quest is now easier to complete
Players that are using force cloaked will no longer be targetable
Jedi heals will no longer cost Force and Mind if the target does not require healing

I find this laughable!!! Seriously.....

It took MAYBE 4 weeks for the Devs to fix being able to target a cloaked Jedi....

But it's BEEN 4 MONTHS (and counting) to keep a Jedi from running into a house after attacking a BH.

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I am not sure what you are smokeing but you need to pass that stuff down. It has been 8 weeks for both since the CU came out.

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Okay puffy....The TEF changes were made WEEKS before the CU went live. It has been MONTHS since the TEF problems were first around. I rememeber fighting MANY Jedi (PRE-CU) that had a great time running in and out the heal and regen. I look for my FIRST SS to get a date.

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Hmmm didnt have that problem on my server then cause as a jedi I couldn't go in a house and as a BH I never had one go in until the CU hit.