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Thread: BHs get their wish...and get slapped, too

Maximus_Bane
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:28 pm
#79



Dallow wrote:
Not to complain (hehe), but thisgives the Trail grinders an even bigger advantage. Personally, I don't hunt the Trail because of LoS bug, but a lot of other BH do. 07-05-2005 08:39 AM




Here's hoping they add one more note to the publish... "Jedi experince is eliminated from kashyyyk environment" or "BH droids now work correctly on kashyyyk"




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Geauxx
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:31 pm
#80






Samath wrote:

First off I am a Padawan Jedi myself. These BH changes are good for a couple of reasons



  • Stops BH's from hunting the same person over and over

  • When a BH shows up for his mark and sees a group of Jedi grinding togather they can't just take names and CL and go back to the terms and pull that mission

  • stopsa group of BH's from pulling the same mission and just killing the mark without a fair fight. 5 BH's on a Padawan come on how is that fun since the mark can't get any help.


Samath


DJP Dark Order









I have never understood this argument. What is the difference between me hunting you 10 times or 10 seperate Bounty Hunters hunting you one time? Win or Lose the outcome is the same. Either you keep your XP or you don't.





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Damyon
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:33 pm
#81


HAHAHA buh bye all you respec wannabees.


Nice Devs thank you for bringing honor back to the BH profession.




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Tamianx
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:34 pm
#82






Geauxx wrote:






Samath wrote:

First off I am a Padawan Jedi myself. These BH changes are good for a couple of reasons



  • Stops BH's from hunting the same person over and over

  • When a BH shows up for his mark and sees a group of Jedi grinding togather they can't just take names and CL and go back to the terms and pull that mission

  • stopsa group of BH's from pulling the same mission and just killing the mark without a fair fight. 5 BH's on a Padawan come on how is that fun since the mark can't get any help.


Samath


DJP Dark Order









I have never understood this argument. What is the difference between me hunting you 10 times or 10 seperate Bounty Hunters hunting you one time? Win or Lose the outcome is the same. Either you keep your XP or you don't.








When you as a BH becomes focused on a single person that is conciered grief. When you get a name of a Jedi during a GCW event, then look up the name on the term, that is exploiting the system.


Ill repeat .. the concept is for a BH to obtain a mission THEN hunt the Jedi down .. not see a Jedi, and then go find the mission. By the name being available downstream (after you accept/spynet op) it nearly emliminates that as an issue and brings back the design of the BH. Couple that with the TEF changes this is a good and balanced patch dealing with greifing/abuse complaints of the Jedi and the house issue of the BH.



Jedi_Xan
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:35 pm
#83

Why does everyone assume your a respec bh because you are disgruntled. I am not respec. I ground out my bh template. I did not respec it.



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ravius7
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:50 pm
#84


I think I will just go afk in a base with turrets. You can kill me if you kill all the turrets and the base spawn. Although same faction BHs will still be a problem, but none of em hunt combatant anyway.
Geauxx
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:54 pm
#85






Tamianx wrote:





Geauxx wrote:






Samath wrote:

First off I am a Padawan Jedi myself. These BH changes are good for a couple of reasons



  • Stops BH's from hunting the same person over and over

  • When a BH shows up for his mark and sees a group of Jedi grinding togather they can't just take names and CL and go back to the terms and pull that mission

  • stopsa group of BH's from pulling the same mission and just killing the mark without a fair fight. 5 BH's on a Padawan come on how is that fun since the mark can't get any help.


Samath


DJP Dark Order









I have never understood this argument. What is the difference between me hunting you 10 times or 10 seperate Bounty Hunters hunting you one time? Win or Lose the outcome is the same. Either you keep your XP or you don't.








When you as a BH becomes focused on a single person that is conciered grief. When you get a name of a Jedi during a GCW event, then look up the name on the term, that is exploiting the system.







In all sincerity please answer this.I am using "me" as an example.



  • So would it be greifing if you were hunted by 10 different BH instead of me 10 times? I don't see the difference besides a bruised ego if I killed you all 10 times.

  • How is getting a Jedi off the terms exploiting the system? If they are on the terms then they have done something to get on the terms. I can't imagine a better way to gain visiblility than running around a huge battle with your lightsaber glowing.




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Jedi_Xan
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:54 pm
#86








ravius7 wrote:


I think I will just go afk in a base with turrets. You can kill me if you kill all the turrets and the base spawn. Although same faction BHs will still be a problem, but none of em hunt combatant anyway.





You do that. A BH on leave can walk into an opposite faction base.



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Tamianx
Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:01 pm
#87






Geauxx wrote:






Tamianx wrote:





Geauxx wrote:






Samath wrote:

First off I am a Padawan Jedi myself. These BH changes are good for a couple of reasons



  • Stops BH's from hunting the same person over and over

  • When a BH shows up for his mark and sees a group of Jedi grinding togather they can't just take names and CL and go back to the terms and pull that mission

  • stopsa group of BH's from pulling the same mission and just killing the mark without a fair fight. 5 BH's on a Padawan come on how is that fun since the mark can't get any help.


Samath


DJP Dark Order









I have never understood this argument. What is the difference between me hunting you 10 times or 10 seperate Bounty Hunters hunting you one time? Win or Lose the outcome is the same. Either you keep your XP or you don't.








When you as a BH becomes focused on a single person that is conciered grief. When you get a name of a Jedi during a GCW event, then look up the name on the term, that is exploiting the system.







In all sincerity please answer this.I am using "me" as an example.



  • So would it be greifing if you were hunted by 10 different BH instead of me 10 times? I don't see the difference besides a bruised ego if I killed you all 10 times.

  • How is getting a Jedi off the terms exploiting the system? If they are on the terms then they have done something to get on the terms. I can't imagine a better way to gain visiblility than running around a huge battle with your lightsaber glowing.







Stated in several of my posts, but here we go:


A- The concept of the BH profession is to provide a service to a fictional person to hunt down and kill/capture the mark.


B- Expounding on A, the idea is you get the mission, get the details, track down/hunt the mark, study the mark, devise a plan, attack and either win/lose.


By seeing a Jedi, then pulling them off the terms is exploiting the system by going from the first right to the last part without the 'hunt'. This includes those that participate in GCW (whats left of it) and are given names by their friends to look up on the Terms (you know damn well this is not what was intended). That was not the design, and thus the change. You also know there were many BH's focusing on a single Jedi to make thier life misrable and cause debt .. this is called grief, sorry to say .. and is circumventing the design.


Ill reitterate so you understand .. the design was to be you receive your mission, for you to hunt down and study your mark, for you to devise a strategy, for you to engage when you feel it is the appropriate time, and for you to be rewarded if you are successful. Any deviations from this design is flat out abuse.



ravius7
Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:06 pm
#88




____________________________________________________________________________________________


ravius7 wrote:



I think I will just go afk in a base with turrets. You can kill me if you kill all the turrets and the base spawn. Although same faction BHs will still be a problem, but none of em hunt combatant anyway.





You do that. A BH on leave can walk into an opposite faction base.

_______________________________________________________


Not true, you have to be combatant to enter either faction pve bases, and SF to enter a SF base. on leave cannot enter a base.
Cpl_Fisher
Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:11 pm
#89






Crash752 wrote:





Llazarus wrote:
Yep, Master BH, Master CM, 0004 Pistoleer (forgot I got pistols and not carbs)...




Your not killing full template Jedi with that unless they are in combat with something else. You have the damage output of a marksmen.





A MBH has significantly higher damage output than a marksman. also dots are your friend



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Geauxx
Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:18 pm
#90






Tamianx wrote:


*SNIP* to save cyberspace.


Stated in several of my posts, but here we go:


A- The concept of the BH profession is to provide a service to a fictional person to hunt down and kill/capture the mark.


B- Expounding on A, the idea is you get the mission, get the details, track down/hunt the mark, study the mark, devise a plan, attack and either win/lose.


By seeing a Jedi, then pulling them off the terms is exploiting the system by going from the first right to the last part without the 'hunt'. This includes those that participate in GCW (whats left of it) and are given names by their friends to look up on the Terms (you know damn well this is not what was intended). That was not the design, and thus the change. You also know there were many BH's focusing on a single Jedi to make thier life misrable and cause debt .. this is called grief, sorry to say .. and is circumventing the design.


Ill reitterate so you understand .. the design was to be you receive your mission, for you to hunt down and study your mark, for you to devise a strategy, for you to engage when you feel it is the appropriate time, and for you to be rewarded if you are successful. Any deviations from this design is flat out abuse.







You discription of the BH system is pretty accurate. However you neglect to touch one important point. How are the Jedi's getting back on the terminals? They are gaining visibility.When this happens the BH steps wil become:



  1. for you to hunt down and study your mark. The Jedi running around on the BF

  2. for you to devise a strategy. Watch him to see how often he heals, Cloaks, Saberthrows etc.

  3. receive your mission . Accept the Mission.

  4. for you to engage when you feel it is the appropriate time. Most BH attack the Jedi when he is low on health and is engaged with several other players

  5. for you to be rewarded if you are successful Ifa BHdb'sthey get the money

It's the same steps just in a different order. Just as the saying "Criminals is stupid" goes the same can be said for Jedi getting on the terms then wondering how they lose XP and die.


Let's look at this from a different view. For this discussion let's say that you are aplayer in a faction.There is a quest that allows you to gain XP and Credits from killing a certain opposingFaction Player. Do youmean to tell me that you wouldnot attack him in a huge PvP Battle in order to complete your quest?




Geaux Darkcloud
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Falcon1024
Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:27 pm
#91






mikeymonkey wrote:
Wait a second. We can't even go inside of our HOUSE when we have a bounty on us? What if we just feel like going in our house? Or our guild hall for a meeting or something? We can either have a BH kill us, or log off for 3 weeks?!

This is just ****ing stupid. I know that some Jedi morons abused housing but this is just ridiculous.

I can understand your guys' frustration, but what they're doing to us has got to be the most pointlessly retarded anything I've ever seen in any game.

Publish 25: Jedi are no longer able talk to other players or even move when a BH has a mission on them.




Hmmm someone did not get good grades in reading comprehension... If you are attacked you can not run into a house. Just because someone has your mission does not mean you can not, you have to be attacked....



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