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Thread: Jedi keep talking about the risk....I THINK I figured it out..
Tucheck wrote:
Have a look see
It's only a minute long, and took MAYBE 15 minutes to slap it together...I'm still just curious about these "risk" Jedi keep using as a justification for being so powerful.
lol, funny. Now all Jedi need to do is make one that says "So whatever happened to the "power" of a Jedi".
As you can see, both whines cancel each other out.
Message Edited by WookieOgre on 07-12-2005 10:34 AM
And I'll ask again: Was this such an issue that it HAD to be taken care of right now with all the other more important problems this game has ? Was bounty hunters grouping to kill a jedi who got himself on the terminals really messing the game up that bad ? Let's step outside of our own problems for a moment and pretend other professions exist.Commandos and Smugglers have been waiting for a revamp for so long that many left. Commando has NO specials in it whatsoever plus weapons that are a joke. Smugglers' role in this game has been reduced to slice this and slice that. Every hybrid profession has been waiting patiently and with each patch get more discouraged. Next time you log on count how many bio-engineers you see. Remember that profession? I almost forgot it existed. The jedi profession has had more than enough love from the developers of this game now it's time for the other professions to get some attention before more leave the game because they have zero interest in being jedi. To a lot of us, jedi are NOT our engame but if they keep working at it, they will become the end of the game.
Cada_Kai wrote:
Nathanielstarr wrote:
Gillik wrote:
Jedi knights could kill master bhs (the MBH's need the knights mission. Mostly the mbh is a friend of saidknight)over and over again for FRS. And they did this in groups. Also fought between one another to gain visibility quickly. Thus the MBH can take said jedis mission to die again. Jedis were able to get Guardians, Masters, and seats on the council by doing this. Yet it ended due to the removal of the FRS.
I am still grinding jedi yet I was told that this was how 'fightclubbing' took place by one of said 'fightclubbing' jedi that did this for his spot on the rebel council.
/jedi slain
Message Edited by Gillik on 07-11-2005 08:37 PM
Thats why we got nerfed in publish 20....so jedi could not exploit their FRS, but it's under the guise of "griefing". But very few BHs really griefed Jedi and it was easy for the jedi to stop it. A jedi's visibility cleared after they died, they could also go into space, go to kashyyyk or just stay in their house. It's not griefing for a BH to kill a jedi or follow a jedi, believe it or not it's actually designed to be that way....So effectively Jedi exploiting got us nerfed....and people wonder why they hate them?
here Ill post it again for you.
Start Repost:
They are nerfing names because even when they tried to make it hard for Bountyhunters to gank jedi guess what... some did.
So to stopthat from happenening you get your nerf. It was your bretheren who couldnt stop ganking that caused this to happen not the FRS.
The devs submitted a FRS proposal to Lucas arts to get approved for this game. Unless you are a Dev, you have no idea what the new system intails. I would almost bet that Hunting MBHs is not even a part of it. I can almost guarantee thatit will be solely a Jedi Vs jedi FRS to keep any farming down.
/endrepost
Message Edited by ktanner3 on 07-12-2005 08:53 AM
Kalandra wrote:
I don't know why BHs complain about this so much, its not ONLY jedi that grind there. in fact once, I took a group down consisting of purely non-jedi. Witha couple LVL 80 FS grinders, and the rest still grinding up to a lvl 80 template. The only reason you see so many jedi down there, is becuase the jedi grind is so much longer, yet we get so much less xp.Everyone wants to grind xp, because its more fun to play as a full template than it is to lay on your backside every ten minutes. Don't hate jedi who grind here, at the keyboard, or away from the keyboard, because everybody does it, not just jedi. If you want something to hate, hate the jedi who run and hide on the bridge when they get a BH inbound.
VERY SIMPLE....WHEN NORMAL PROFESSIONS ARE DONE GRINDING, THEY DON'T HAVE POWERS LIKE CLOAK, STASIS, AND MASTER SABERS
There is a BIG difference (to me) between being able to grind out a normal profession that I actually stand a chance against in a fight....and a Jedi being granted much stronger powers for doing "NOTHING". I DO take it as an insult to ALL of us who have been around longer then at LEAST a year....but like I said...some Jedi as suppose to take longer then others....at THIS rate, all the SWG Devs have introduced is the NEXT installment in the Star Wars saga : Star Wars Ep. 3.8 : Jedi Clone Farming
Jedi...I'll even say the ones who used shady means (because by todays standard, the exploits of yesterday are childs play compared to what goes on now...that and it's SO flagrant) deserved to be a Jedi WITH Jedi powers...all the people in this thread bitching about the fact that I, one player, have a problem with there being NO risk in obtaining a Jedi need to know ONE thing....you DON'T deserve it. To top everything off, you KNOW you don't deserve it, and you are delighted in the fact that you can achieve what YOU may perceive as "end game" (I do not) with little to NO effort. If it's not the NUMBER of Jedi that's is a big problem for the SWG community, then it is most certainly "that attitude". I swear...I wish the Devs would do a server wipe of all Jedi less then 4 months old, let you cancel your accounts, destroy the village, and hide the path to Jedi once again. The more these Jedi whine and complain because I'm more "in your face" about how they don't deserve it, the more fuel it thows on the fire, because it's obvious that it hits a nerve...and I'll just keep on hitting.
Flame away "care bear fan boys"....you talking to a guy who doesn't make it a habit to "fix" his hair to impress strangers in public, you really think ANYTHING you say to me is going to change the way I feel about the means to which you insult this game?
Tucheck wrote:
Kalandra wrote:
I don't know why BHs complain about this so much, its not ONLY jedi that grind there. in fact once, I took a group down consisting of purely non-jedi. With
a couple LVL 80 FS grinders, and the rest still grinding up to a lvl 80 template. The only reason you see so many jedi down there, is becuase the jedi grind is so much longer, yet we get so much less xp.
Everyone wants to grind xp, because its more fun to play as a full template than it is to lay on your backside every ten minutes. Don't hate jedi who grind here, at the keyboard, or away from the keyboard, because everybody does it, not just jedi. If you want something to hate, hate the jedi who run and hide on the bridge when they get a BH inbound.
VERY SIMPLE....WHEN NORMAL PROFESSIONS ARE DONE GRINDING, THEY DON'T HAVE POWERS LIKE CLOAK, STASIS, AND MASTER SABERS
There is a BIG difference (to me) between being able to grind out a normal profession that I actually stand a chance against in a fight....and a Jedi being granted much stronger powers for doing "NOTHING". I DO take it as an insult to ALL of us who have been around longer then at LEAST a year....but like I said...some Jedi as suppose to take longer then others....at THIS rate, all the SWG Devs have introduced is the NEXT installment in the Star Wars saga : Star Wars Ep. 3.8 : Jedi Clone Farming
Jedi...I'll even say the ones who used shady means (because by todays standard, the exploits of yesterday are childs play compared to what goes on now...that and it's SO flagrant) deserved to be a Jedi WITH Jedi powers...all the people in this thread bitching about the fact that I, one player, have a problem with there being NO risk in obtaining a Jedi need to know ONE thing....you DON'T deserve it. To top everything off, you KNOW you don't deserve it, and you are delighted in the fact that you can achieve what YOU may perceive as "end game" (I do not) with little to NO effort. If it's not the NUMBER of Jedi that's is a big problem for the SWG community, then it is most certainly "that attitude". I swear...I wish the Devs would do a server wipe of all Jedi less then 4 months old, let you cancel your accounts, destroy the village, and hide the path to Jedi once again. The more these Jedi whine and complain because I'm more "in your face" about how they don't deserve it, the more fuel it thows on the fire, because it's obvious that it hits a nerve...and I'll just keep on hitting.
Flame away "care bear fan boys"....you talking to a guy who doesn't make it a habit to "fix" his hair to impress strangers in public, you really think ANYTHING you say to me is going to change the way I feel about the means to which you insult this game?
Stasis = Paralyze
MSabers < MSwordsman.
Cloak > Conceal, I agree.
Anaalin wrote:
Jacella wrote:
Point is that I would like you know that most jedi work for their templates...and if you kill an afk jedi, you are doing us a favor.
QFE
There are alot of AFKers out there, but not near as many as what some jedi-haters would have you believe.
And I really don't understand those people. They say "You knew the grind was gonna be hard, if you don't like it play KOTOR" and yet complain about all the Jedi.
Sooo..."You knew there were gonna be jedi, if you don't like it, play WOW"
Sheesh.
NO your Wrong When I bought this game Jedi were NOT going to be in this Game. Then they did some Poll and asked if Jedi should be and it was explained that they would Be really really Rare and hard. LOL. Amazing what can happen in a few years.
jafo1 wrote:
Anaalin wrote:
Jacella wrote:
Point is that I would like you know that most jedi work for their templates...and if you kill an afk jedi, you are doing us a favor.
QFE
There are alot of AFKers out there, but not near as many as what some jedi-haters would have you believe.
And I really don't understand those people. They say "You knew the grind was gonna be hard, if you don't like it play KOTOR" and yet complain about all the Jedi.
Sooo..."You knew there were gonna be jedi, if you don't like it, play WOW"
Sheesh.
NO your Wrong When I bought this game Jedi were NOT going to be in this Game. Then they did some Poll and asked if Jedi should be and it was explained that they would Be really really Rare and hard. LOL. Amazing what can happen in a few years.
You are very, very mistaken.
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
jafo1 wrote:
Anaalin wrote:
Jacella wrote:
Point is that I would like you know that most jedi work for their templates...and if you kill an afk jedi, you are doing us a favor.
QFE
There are alot of AFKers out there, but not near as many as what some jedi-haters would have you believe.
And I really don't understand those people. They say "You knew the grind was gonna be hard, if you don't like it play KOTOR" and yet complain about all the Jedi.
Sooo..."You knew there were gonna be jedi, if you don't like it, play WOW"
Sheesh.
NO your Wrong When I bought this game Jedi were NOT going to be in this Game. Then they did some Poll and asked if Jedi should be and it was explained that they would Be really really Rare and hard. LOL. Amazing what can happen in a few years.
You are very, very mistaken.
No Im not. If i can find the Orig FAQ. Its said Will I beable to become a jedi and it stated NO! Then I got a Email with the Poll. Dont go by post count there Skippy. my Orig Acct was canceld. And I am real close to canceling this one. Unless they fix this Mess they call a game.
jafo1 wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
jafo1 wrote:
Anaalin wrote:
Jacella wrote:
Point is that I would like you know that most jedi work for their templates...and if you kill an afk jedi, you are doing us a favor.
QFE
There are alot of AFKers out there, but not near as many as what some jedi-haters would have you believe.
And I really don't understand those people. They say "You knew the grind was gonna be hard, if you don't like it play KOTOR" and yet complain about all the Jedi.
Sooo..."You knew there were gonna be jedi, if you don't like it, play WOW"
Sheesh.
NO your Wrong When I bought this game Jedi were NOT going to be in this Game. Then they did some Poll and asked if Jedi should be and it was explained that they would Be really really Rare and hard. LOL. Amazing what can happen in a few years.
You are very, very mistaken.
No Im not. If i can find the Orig FAQ. Its said Will I beable to become a jedi and it stated NO! Then I got a Email with the Poll. Dont go by post count there Skippy. my Orig Acct was canceld. And I am real close to canceling this one. Unless they fix this Mess they call a game.
I didn't say a single thing about post count, skippy.
And you're very wrong. Jedi have been a part of the plan since before Beta. So you when you bought this game, Jedi were going to be in it.
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
jafo1 wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
jafo1 wrote:
Anaalin wrote:
Jacella wrote:
Point is that I would like you know that most jedi work for their templates...and if you kill an afk jedi, you are doing us a favor.
QFE
There are alot of AFKers out there, but not near as many as what some jedi-haters would have you believe.
And I really don't understand those people. They say "You knew the grind was gonna be hard, if you don't like it play KOTOR" and yet complain about all the Jedi.
Sooo..."You knew there were gonna be jedi, if you don't like it, play WOW"
Sheesh.
NO your Wrong When I bought this game Jedi were NOT going to be in this Game. Then they did some Poll and asked if Jedi should be and it was explained that they would Be really really Rare and hard. LOL. Amazing what can happen in a few years.
You are very, very mistaken.
No Im not. If i can find the Orig FAQ. Its said Will I beable to become a jedi and it stated NO! Then I got a Email with the Poll. Dont go by post count there Skippy. my Orig Acct was canceld. And I am real close to canceling this one. Unless they fix this Mess they call a game.
I didn't say a single thing about post count, skippy.
And you're very wrong. Jedi have been a part of the plan since before Beta. So you when you bought this game, Jedi were going to be in it.
Ok i guess your a Dev and Know of the conspiracy behind it then. because when I bought it the FAQ clearly stated NO! Im not gonna debate you on this as we boath know its a Evolving game yadda yadda. But the FAQ clearly stated NO and it was marketed as such in the begining. And you know im Rite on that.
And ofcourse the Old FAQ that was on LucasArts has finally been updated and dumped. So we will have to chalk it up to one of us is rite.
Message Edited by jafo1 on 07-12-2005 10:32 AM
jafo1 wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
jafo1 wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
jafo1 wrote:
Anaalin wrote:
Jacella wrote:
Point is that I would like you know that most jedi work for their templates...and if you kill an afk jedi, you are doing us a favor.
QFE
There are alot of AFKers out there, but not near as many as what some jedi-haters would have you believe.
And I really don't understand those people. They say "You knew the grind was gonna be hard, if you don't like it play KOTOR" and yet complain about all the Jedi.
Sooo..."You knew there were gonna be jedi, if you don't like it, play WOW"
Sheesh.
NO your Wrong When I bought this game Jedi were NOT going to be in this Game. Then they did some Poll and asked if Jedi should be and it was explained that they would Be really really Rare and hard. LOL. Amazing what can happen in a few years.
You are very, very mistaken.
No Im not. If i can find the Orig FAQ. Its said Will I beable to become a jedi and it stated NO! Then I got a Email with the Poll. Dont go by post count there Skippy. my Orig Acct was canceld. And I am real close to canceling this one. Unless they fix this Mess they call a game.
I didn't say a single thing about post count, skippy.
And you're very wrong. Jedi have been a part of the plan since before Beta. So you when you bought this game, Jedi were going to be in it.
Ok i guess your a Dev and Know of the conspiracy behind it then. because when I bought it the FAQ clearly stated NO! Im not gonna debate you on this as we boath know its a Evolving game yadda yadda. But the FAQ clearly stated NO and it was marketed as such in the begining. And you know im Rite on that.
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
jafo1 wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
jafo1 wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
jafo1 wrote:
Anaalin wrote:
Jacella wrote:
Point is that I would like you know that most jedi work for their templates...and if you kill an afk jedi, you are doing us a favor.
QFE
There are alot of AFKers out there, but not near as many as what some jedi-haters would have you believe.
And I really don't understand those people. They say "You knew the grind was gonna be hard, if you don't like it play KOTOR" and yet complain about all the Jedi.
Sooo..."You knew there were gonna be jedi, if you don't like it, play WOW"
Sheesh.
NO your Wrong When I bought this game Jedi were NOT going to be in this Game. Then they did some Poll and asked if Jedi should be and it was explained that they would Be really really Rare and hard. LOL. Amazing what can happen in a few years.
You are very, very mistaken.
No Im not. If i can find the Orig FAQ. Its said Will I beable to become a jedi and it stated NO! Then I got a Email with the Poll. Dont go by post count there Skippy. my Orig Acct was canceld. And I am real close to canceling this one. Unless they fix this Mess they call a game.
I didn't say a single thing about post count, skippy.
And you're very wrong. Jedi have been a part of the plan since before Beta. So you when you bought this game, Jedi were going to be in it.
Ok i guess your a Dev and Know of the conspiracy behind it then. because when I bought it the FAQ clearly stated NO! Im not gonna debate you on this as we boath know its a Evolving game yadda yadda. But the FAQ clearly stated NO and it was marketed as such in the begining. And you know im Rite on that.
If you're correct, it should be simple enough for you to prove it.
Caught me in edit. they took down the Old FAQ on Lucas Arts where it was. So we pretty much have to conclude One of us is Rite. I know I am and you know you are so we come to a Stalemate on this.
But really its No real point. They are in game its Endgame prof. And the Game will go total Jedi Dark Lite wars soon enough.