Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: BH Loot and Complaints
Tanks wrote:
Posted from my reply to another thread.
It is interesting that most people beleive that this is a zero sum game. A lot of the posts I have seen are "BHs got nice loot, it should either be nerfed or everyone should have it".
Excuse me, but prior to CU BHs could not solo Nightsisters, or Gorax, or Krayts or Acklayfor loot.A lot of you other combat professions could do that.
I did not hear crafters complain that a Rifleman/TKM (or other templates)was able to loot any high level mob in the game prior to CU. Now that the BH NPC marks are worth doing, and loot is dropping I do not understand the complaints.
Heck, I saw complaints even on the Jedi forums. They seem to forget that they get a second character slot on the same server. Should we lobby for everyone to get that or have it removed? Fencers and Swordsman would love to have access to Lightsabers as well..
Also, a lot of the posts I have seen here give the impression that the drops are uber on a regular basis. I have run about 20 missions so far (about 5 hours). All I have gotten were Smuggler slicing components and a few BH armor schems. I have yet to loot ANY CAs.
However, if people are running BH missions for HOURS at end, the law of averages will catch up and if anything is droppable, it will drop. I do not think that is bad considering the amount of time and effort involved. You got a much better return on your investment of time, and effort hunting Krayts or Nightsisters or Acklayprior to CU.
100% agree.
I've done over 40 missions on the weekend (probably 50). Tons of slicing equipment, I think everyone can agree this was a great change since now slicing will be cheap (maybe even less than 100k for a slice now). As you said the SEA's drop very rarely. Out of all the missions I've only had 3 drops........2 had Structure exp and the other one had +15 melee def (with another worthless mod).
Other than that I've looted some nice Armor cores and Weapon scopes.....oh and I have 8 BH Armor schems. IMO the loot is not as good as everyone is saying. For the time invested, OMG I could have been killing DJK and probably had better loot. Or I could have gone to Talus and just killed NPCs for SEA's.
im with tanks on this one 100% this is the best loot ive ever got in this game ever ,even thou i did the djk djm solo and night sisters as well .
but im the only one on my server to do it ,we rock now i mean we are very good stop your whineing. TANKS has done a super job
and so has the dev team now the game is comeing together this game will be the best.
i have total faith in TANKS and the dev team now nice job guys.
keep up the good work im the happest bh ever
ob-gli wrote:
Grunzer wrote:
ob-gli wrote:
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However, if people are running BH missions for HOURS at end, the law of averages will catch up and if anything is droppable, it will drop. I do not think that is bad considering the amount of time and effort involved. You got a much better return on your investment of time, and effort hunting Krayts or Nightsisters or Acklayprior to CU. You still do hunting DJK, DJM, or Arrukans missions on Talus they are the only other things droping loot thats any good with maybe a few others also...fix Krayt loot and the Jedi will stop complaning IMO... "
The drop rate cannot be compared ..sadly... out of everyone one of these npc bh missions , they all dropped atleast 1 thing worth keeping.
auakauns and djm consistantly drop items that instantly get deleted and serve absolutely no purpose in game what-so-ever, or in theaukaun missioncase, they drop nothing 9 out of 10 times...
Then your job should be to get all these professions who don't have loot like this to scream at the developers to FIX THE LOOT TABLES. Calling for a nerf to NPC Mark Loot is counterproductive to what you are trying to achieve, Don't you see that?
i never said they should nerf anything.. they should now giveEVERY profession the exact same type of missions.
Fairness & balance please , its all we ask.
oh and we have been screaming for 3 months to get our prems back... what do they do?? turn around and fix bh loot , which is a slap in the face if you ask me.
Message Edited by ob-gli on 08-07-2005 10:49 PM
Fairness??, Balance??? LOL dont make me laugh...
Let me just say that again...
I LOVE the MBH loot drops...
I always done the NPC bounty hunter missions, expect for the two Jedi hunts pre-cu, moving on, with the new loot drops from "boss" npcs, I can't see anything wrong with it..
I've looted so far:
ca - +6 Pistol acc/ +8 W.S.Exp.
Power Crystal
TONS of smuggler parts
3 paintings...
no BH schems yet.. but that will change...
Hell every trip I'm pretty much set to get something... I like and I hope this doesn't change.
That's my 2 cents.
Thenger wrote:Okay what gets me really is how everyone thinks that these missions are the "high end" everyone dreams off. Over the weekend, didn't get much sleep, I did over 60 missions. Of those 60 some odd missions, I have a full set of BH armor. And that was after spending a few hours trading the double Shem's I looted, and that was alot. I got perhaps 4 tapes, nothing great on top of it. I do have a ton of slicing items, which is good since smugglers needed their tools back.What gets me if is this, if this changed happened before the Jedi names and payout where removed off the terminals the Jedi would be jumping for joy for the change. But things happened, and we get the change now so we are dealing with it and enjoying it, but what the heck. Everyonne thinks that we are gettin these amazing peices of loot, and we aren't. I am still waiting to get the peices for weaponsmith crafting so I can get a new scatter pistol made and I didn't get one of those peices left.
Dont use those parts for w/s if you loot them (yet) they are bugged and convert the damage type on any weapon they are applied to.
i.e they convert the fwg5 pistol (was kenetic) to blast damage...so even if its damage capped, you can expect a whole 1hp of damage every time you fire it
I saw a bunch of the fwg5's in the trade forum, going for 7.5 million, no way they'll sell as the damage type is blast
On another note, I've run around 30 missions over the weekend, got one nice ca (dbl bld ls acc +14) and other than that just slicing components and some armour schems (not a full set).
I think the loot is good for the investment, and as everyone knows at least we cant camp afk to get these, we have to work..I've never camped a spawn for loot, and I need not start now which has pleased me greatly.
All the guys whining should go back to thier own profession's forum and whine to get a similar mission/loot setup to ours.
Just for gods sake stop screaming for the nurf bat...be happy that at least one proff in the game has a working mission system, with any luck it will pave the way for other proff's to follow...after all, someone has to be 1st.
Ourha wrote:
This update is without doubt the best thing to happen to BH in a very very long time, lets not do it down before we see the full implications, which will require time to become obvious.
Personally I would like to see a small increase in the CL of the marks. I know from experience that my build (MBH, MCM, Carb 0400) can take on a CL89 ranged npc or a CL 83 melee npc. So maybe something in the range of 83-85 would be better than the current 80-81.
TBH anything higher than 85 and you might as well go fight Jedi
Agreed. I would also love to see the marks a little higher in level. It is not very challenging for me ATM. I even started going in without armor to make it more fun. I would love to get to the mark andfind him standing there with bodyguards.
But all in all the changes are great. I agree that in the long run this will be great for the economy things are way overpriced right now. It is ok for me since I have a ton of money...but I feel bad for the new people with no dinero - it would be very difficult for a new person to come in and rack up 10 mil to buy one item.
I'll agree with Tanks here.
As a BH and a Jedi. the BH npc missions and loot is nice. I would like to see this for all classes but realize the limitations in doing it for others. Bh just have a system on had that made this possible.
I'd like to see things put in for every profession(including jedi).
Jedi whining about it is silly, Jedi do need jedi specific content since I don't see jedi as just a pvp class,but putting that in now would be a distraction.
Lot of bugs and balance fixes are still needed. Along with profession revamps. So glad one class got a little something while we wait for them to fix everything else.
Tanks wrote:
Posted from my reply to another thread.
It is interesting that most people beleive that this is a zero sum game. A lot of the posts I have seen are "BHs got nice loot, it should either be nerfed or everyone should have it".
Excuse me, but prior to CU BHs could not solo Nightsisters, or Gorax, or Krayts or Acklayfor loot.A lot of you other combat professions could do that.
I did not hear crafters complain that a Rifleman/TKM (or other templates)was able to loot any high level mob in the game prior to CU. Now that the BH NPC marks are worth doing, and loot is dropping I do not understand the complaints.
Heck, I saw complaints even on the Jedi forums. They seem to forget that they get a second character slot on the same server. Should we lobby for everyone to get that or have it removed? Fencers and Swordsman would love to have access to Lightsabers as well.
Also, a lot of the posts I have seen here give the impression that the drops are uber on a regular basis. I have run about 20 missions so far (about 5 hours). All I have gotten were Smuggler slicing components and a few BH armor schems. I have yet to loot ANY CAs.
However, if people are running BH missions for HOURS at end, the law of averages will catch up and if anything is droppable, it will drop. I do not think that is bad considering the amount of time and effort involved. You got a much better return on your investment of time, and effort hunting Krayts or Nightsisters or Acklayprior to CU.
ob-gli wrote:
Tanks wrote:
Posted from my reply to another thread.
It is interesting that most people beleive that this is a zero sum game. A lot of the posts I have seen are "BHs got nice loot, it should either be nerfed or everyone should have it". And they are correct...
Excuse me, but prior to CU BHs could not solo Nightsisters, or Gorax, or Krayts or Acklayfor loot.A lot of you other combat professions could do that.Ya , they were swordsmen/doc or riflemen/doc... thats 2 proffs ,and everyone could grind to either one and do whatever they pleased. Some choose to kill jedi for 226k a pop , some choose to be loot whores ,and grind a pve temp.
I did not hear crafters complain that a Rifleman/TKM (or other templates)was able to loot any high level mob in the game prior to CU. Now that the BH NPC marks are worth doing, and loot is dropping I do not understand the complaints. Of course you didnt , they are Crafters ... they would beridiculed and flamed repeatedlyif someone was dumb enough to say this on a public forum...
Heck, I saw complaints even on the Jedi forums. They seem to forget that they get a second character slot on the same server. Should we lobby for everyone to get that or have it removed? Fencers and Swordsman would love to have access to Lightsabers as well.
Also, a lot of the posts I have seen here give the impression that the drops are uber on a regular basis. I have run about 20 missions so far (about 5 hours). All I have gotten were Smuggler slicing components and a few BH armor schems. I have yet to loot ANY CAs.
However, if people are running BH missions for HOURS at end, the law of averages will catch up and if anything is droppable, it will drop. I do not think that is bad considering the amount of time and effort involved. You got a much better return on your investment of time, and effort hunting Krayts or Nightsisters or Acklayprior to CU.
i fail to see why you even posted this . The point being conveyed by the masses is , you haveacess to 2 things no one else has.. decent loot from running npc missions.. and 1 on 1 duels with jedi for possibly 200k+ ...
jedi are also ticked off that , prems arent dropping ,the devs say they are working on the issues ,yet bh get some of the nicest loot in game right now,and its been confirmed as being Too easy by some of you... we have to assemble a saber out of pearals or crystals that can randomly tune to crap , or tune to something worthwhile ... all the while your class and every other class can loot 190dmg tissues and have great damage weaopns made with lower SAC than 95 ,which is the lowest ive heard any saber SAC cost going to. or not even have to worry about looting tissues because most weapons are crafting to alot higher max dmg than any saber...
I swear, you miss the hole boat didn't you? THIS IS CHOICE.. Oddly this is no different then JEDI... CHOICE!
You have access to it, BUT ITS WORK ... See your the type I hope to hell is not a Jedi, your missing the whole boat on this.
It also tells me that you have not been in the game long enough to do the old BH grind and have no idea how crappy NPC missons have been over the last two years, so as a Knight I can safely say since I did BH Twice to go Spit.
Just because you did not plan your Jedi and seem mad about Pearls... you need to go back to worrying about our class and stay away from the BH's on this .. (God I never thought I'd say that)..lol They are having some fun and its not costing one RL player his time for once.
your wrong Tanks
Before the CU a BH can solo a NS elder i did it
all you need was novice comando for the luncher pistols and smuggler FD
Message Edited by SeraCohw on 08-08-2005 11:05 AM
ob-gli wrote:
Tanks wrote:
Posted from my reply to another thread.It is interesting that most people beleive that this is a zero sum game. A lot of the posts I have seen are "BHs got nice loot, it should either be nerfed or everyone should have it". And they are correct...Excuse me, but prior to CU BHs could not solo Nightsisters, or Gorax, or Krayts or Acklay for loot. A lot of you other combat professions could do that. Ya , they were swordsmen/doc or riflemen/doc... thats 2 proffs ,and everyone could grind to either one and do whatever they pleased. Some choose to kill jedi for 226k a pop , some choose to be loot whores ,and grind a pve temp.I did not hear crafters complain that a Rifleman/TKM (or other templates) was able to loot any high level mob in the game prior to CU. Now that the BH NPC marks are worth doing, and loot is dropping I do not understand the complaints. Of course you didnt , they are Crafters ... they would be ridiculed and flamed repeatedly if someone was dumb enough to say this on a public forum...Heck, I saw complaints even on the Jedi forums. They seem to forget that they get a second character slot on the same server. Should we lobby for everyone to get that or have it removed? Fencers and Swordsman would love to have access to Lightsabers as well.Also, a lot of the posts I have seen here give the impression that the drops are uber on a regular basis. I have run about 20 missions so far (about 5 hours). All I have gotten were Smuggler slicing components and a few BH armor schems. I have yet to loot ANY CAs.
However, if people are running BH missions for HOURS at end, the law of averages will catch up and if anything is droppable, it will drop. I do not think that is bad considering the amount of time and effort involved. You got a much better return on your investment of time, and effort hunting Krayts or Nightsisters or Acklay prior to CU.
i fail to see why you even posted this . The point being conveyed by the masses is , you have acess to 2 things no one else has.. decent loot from running npc missions.. and 1 on 1 duels with jedi for possibly 200k+ ...
jedi are also ticked off that , prems arent dropping ,the devs say they are working on the issues ,yet bh get some of the nicest loot in game right now,and its been confirmed as being Too easy by some of you... we have to assemble a saber out of pearals or crystals that can randomly tune to crap , or tune to something worthwhile ... all the while your class and every other class can loot 190dmg tissues and have great damage weaopns made with lower SAC than 95 ,which is the lowest ive heard any saber SAC cost going to. or not even have to worry about looting tissues because most weapons are crafting to alot higher max dmg than any saber...
Im sorry but this is where I have to remark. You jedi have the DJK missions on Dath that are REAL easy for you to solo. My friend is a jedi (not even master defender) and takes about 3 - 4 of these missions an hour and solos them with ease. He gets EXTREMELY high level loot that he sells for high prices. He has a BH alt and he actually prefers to do the DJK missions to the BH missions as they are not as profitable to him. So you jedi can quit your whining and go solo your high level loot mobs and let us BH have some frickin fun for once without you Nerf lords crying for the bat to be swung!
/endrant