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Thread: BH Loot and Complaints

Duragoth
Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:30 am
#53

TANKS is right.


Personally I don't get it. We run greater risks then any other profession. We don't know what kind of Jedi we're hunting till we've already accepted their mission, with these new missions we don't even know what kind of NPC we're off to fight. Like the DEVs have said in the past, "the greater the risk the greater the rewards."and besides for the most part we can't even use this newloot without getting assistance from another profession {this is how it should be} Alass, I think some non Bounty Hunters are getting the wrong idea about what we have top go through to get this loot. So lets listthe stepswe have to dofor huntingone of these new NPC missions;



  1. We have to pull a mission (no big, every combat profession does this)

  2. We spend a droid to get the location of where our mission is (is there another profession that has to do this?)

  3. We then have to travel and chase our target hoping that they don't run in to deep water and end our mission for us (I know no other profession has to deal with this)

  4. When we finaly get to our target we have to double check the target to see if our level 80 mission has a CL80 or CL82 double elite NPC to fight (some of these double elites are harder to fight then PvPing someJedi)

  5. Then after all that we run a gamble with the loot tables to see if we get; (A) credits (B) jar of bug/berries (C) CA/AA (D) crystal (E) a slicing piece or Armor schematic [which we have to give to another profession to use] or (F) a combination of any of the above choices

If the other Professions what to run through all of this to have a chance at some good loot, then I hope they get their chance. Then I can sit back and watch them cry about how hard these missions are, and so-on and so-forth.


One final thought, Bounty Hunters are one of the biggest buyers of good in the game. We have to buy weapons, armor, foods, meds, slices, and vehicles on a regular basis. Yet many times we have been shuned from many player cities, and outcasted by many more player. So now that we can take some time out to help put goods into the game we have to deal with cries of nerf. I don't care where you're from, being a Bounty Hunter isn't easy.



jalexu
Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:33 am
#54


/sigh I swear some people just want stuff to fall into their lap w/o moving a finger.






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tHeRaBiDmOnKeY
Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:37 am
#55

the fact that all I get is slicing components in 40+ runs


Maybe a possible increase in good loot depending on if their minions, lieutenants, or boss's








(or maybe its my crappy luck)





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LandonRyuu
Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:44 am
#56

Tanks = The first correspondent to consistently post flame and flamebait stickies.

Was there really any point to this post? You're so vehemently defending the loot system because you can loot uber stuff with it, they're not gonna nerf it, so don't get your panties in a bundle. Not everyone is even calling for a nerf.

You cannot blame the rest of the SWG community for being pretty ticked that for months they've been telling us "loot sucks right now for particular elite mobs and regular mobs alike because it requires an across the board revamp" then they go and change the whole BH NPC system to drop uber loot, meanwhile Krayts don't even drop what they are supposed to drop, The Gorax, NS Elders, High level FS mobs are giving you "You find nothing of value on the corpse" 9 times out of 10.

As for the lightsaber and second character slot thing, you already know that you don't work as hard for a regular profession, including BH, as you do for a Jedi, so just give up that weak argument. If you want an extra character and to swing the lightsaber do the grind and stop whining.

Do I think the elite system should be nerfed at all? No. Do I think it's BS that they didn't just do a loot revamp along with BH Boss misions instead of making loot work for ONE profession, yes.

This is not a Jedi issue, this is an SWG looting issue.

Message Edited by LandonRyuu on 08-08-2005 02:45 AM

Thraxor
Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:30 am
#57


Excellent write up, what else needs to be said. Seems odd that jedi and others are able to use exploits to milk DJK/DJM all day for +25 tapes and its left for weeks and weeks and yet we spend hours for a decent loot and all the whiny children call 'nerf' and we get pimped in a whopping 2 days. Yeah loot tables and Boss mobs are off from the patch 3 days ago, I know i've ground enough marks before and after to notice it.


Great job Tanks



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Rico4
Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:36 am
#58


Im so amused by all the people crying about the loot ive run countless missions now and havent looted a single CA. If id have spent as much time running Aakuan Missions as i have BH missions in the last couple of days id have dozens of CAs by now. the only thing different BH can loot is BH schematics. From which one piece of armor can be made (and it cant be used to craft Mando, so ive heard), but this doesnt make us money like selling CAs cos were the ones that wear it! ( apart from commando, knowone else can ) so its not like we can sell the schematics for millions to AS cos then it would cost us millions to buy it back


Are you all gonna start crying because only a smuggler can slice things?! Some things are profession based, and guess what, only a BH can hunt a BH Mark. The loot from these are totally random. Lets spend money on droids, tip Doc for Buffing, wait 5mins to track target, spend 10mins speeding accross Dath to kill him, and then loot a Jar of Foraged Bugs! we dont get Uber Loot every drop y'know. And some people whine cos we get a 30k reward, i didnt see anyone moaning when they were farming Jantas in solo groups making 40k a time for 5mins of spamming area attack.


It takes hours upon hours to loot something worth while so stop it with ya moaning!



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Thraxor
Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:39 am
#59






You see.. my char has been in existance since launch.. never been a crafter as I have no interest and grinding missions is slow money

I have NEVER seen more than 8 million on this account at any one time.. now if you.. getting 12 million.. 6 million.. in 2 days of looting probably solo.. thats just lame cause If I want those kinds of credits it would require me becoming a BH.. which I really dont want to do

So those of us that dont want to become a crafter/BH get shafted credit wise due to no other way to solo and get high end loot that fast







What? copied from another post of mine.


"Theres no unbalancing issues here. What, these people too ignorant to find a Giant freaking Krayt in a desert environment? Lord Nyax suddenly buy a camper anddecide to starttraveling the system planets hiding out in disguise?Did the NIghtsisters suddenly take up farming and become poor peasants? Theres plenty of mobs with plenty of potential loot out there you just have to get off you @ss and try to go get it."


You playing the same game as the rest of us? Look up your local AFK Loot Macroer every server has a bunch, and see what they are making. Honestly for playing 2 years just because you can't save up any credits doesn't mean anything let alone you don't even play a bounty hunter so how do you base any of your numbers of 6-12m in two days?


Seriously its people like you with no clue to other proffesions calling for nerfs is why the game is so screwed up.





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Kaorset
Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:58 am
#60

Tanks, in your long tenure as correspondent, I don't believe I have ever agreed with you more.



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LighterTripod
Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:25 am
#61

this is so simple not even worth all the Bs you want chance to loot "uber" loot from mission NPC become BH you want to be jedi grind jedi you want to be smuggler grind smuggler you want to own in PVP ( win duels) grind CM



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Ourha
Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:27 am
#62

I'm sorry but I just have to say this:

If you don't like the fact that your prof (fencer/swordsman/Jedi......) doesn't get mission like this its really quite simple. Don't play as a (fencer/swordsman/Jedi....).

I mean Jedi have an alt which they could make BH if they want the loot, and every other proff can change. And if you don't want to change go whinge in your own forum about getting better loot. I worked long and hard to master BH and it annoys me greatly that as soon as anything good happens to one proff every other cries nerf like a bunch of babies when what they should do is ask the devs what they are going to do about their own proff.



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Athenian
Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:32 am
#63






HiJiiNks wrote:



your wrong Tanks


Before the CU a BH can solo a NS elder i did it






You are obviously one of us BH who use brawn instead of brains aren't you?




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lbfoofoo
Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:39 am
#64

I only read the first post in this thread cuz I'm lazy lol. I've seen first hand the complaining coming from Jedi already about the loot we're getting. WTH is thier friggin problem or anyones problemfor that matter? The Jedi are just whiny babies who think only they should get the loot, proof being that a lot of jedi whined and cried all weekend cuz I wouldn't give them the jedi CA's i looted... yes thats right, they wanted me to GIVE them away. I just told them "CRY SOME MORE JEDI NOOBS". If they want them, they can use thier alt to become BH or be like everyone else and friggin buy them. If other players want cool loot, then go out there and get it. You can get almost all the same stuff by killing night sisters and other hig level npc's. Tanks please don't let the whiny jedi get our loot nerfed.


I looted some killer power cells and made an unbelievable weapon and with all the smuggler pieces I think the jedi are now afraid because we will have powerful weapoins and killer sliced armor that they won't beable to kill us in 3 sots. Geez the jedi might have to actually fight and defend themselves. Leave us BH alone and stop crying about our loot. No one believed me when i said pre-pub 21 that jedi would whine and cry to try and get our loot nerfed. well to all those people I have to say I TOLD YOU SO.


Please tanks don't let them nerf our loot

Heruler
Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:39 am
#65






Tanks wrote:


Posted from my reply to another thread.


It is interesting that most people beleive that this is a zero sum game. A lot of the posts I have seen are "BHs got nice loot, it should either be nerfed or everyone should have it".


Excuse me, but prior to CU BHs could not solo Nightsisters, or Gorax, or Krayts or Acklayfor loot.A lot of you other combat professions could do that.


I did not hear crafters complain that a Rifleman/TKM (or other templates)was able to loot any high level mob in the game prior to CU. Now that the BH NPC marks are worth doing, and loot is dropping I do not understand the complaints.


Heck, I saw complaints even on the Jedi forums. They seem to forget that they get a second character slot on the same server. Should we lobby for everyone to get that or have it removed? Fencers and Swordsman would love to have access to Lightsabers as well. .



Also, a lot of the posts I have seen here give the impression that the drops are uber on a regular basis. I have run about 20 missions so far (about 5 hours). All I have gotten were Smuggler slicing components and a few BH armor schems. I have yet to loot ANY CAs.


However, if people are running BH missions for HOURS at end, the law of averages will catch up and if anything is droppable, it will drop. I do not think that is bad considering the amount of time and effort involved. You got a much better return on your investment of time, and effort hunting Krayts or Nightsisters or Acklayprior to CU.






well thopught out and written i agree 100%

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