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lesniak

Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:16 pm

#66

ShaikeRamjet wrote:

Jedi have used an exploit to mess up BH droids by logging off and then back on

Never done that

Jedi have used exploits to over power their sabers by stack crystals and pearls... not once but twice now

How. I'de like to know. This isan OLD exploit that hasn't been around forever.

Jedi have used an exploit using the /duel command in order to see if a BH has thier mission.

Not an exploit. Just good planning.

Jedi have used the exploit of attacking while cloaked.

Attacking when cloaked is allowed, just breaks cloak.

Jedi have used an exploit that allowed them to take advantage of a broken TEF system allowing them to run inside house while in combat with the BH.

Umm. Only when they Jedi didn't attack back, but ran.

Jedi have used the exploit of using bugged battlefields to avoid combat with BH.

Battlelields are gone.

Jedi have used the exploit of /offerRide and /acceptRide from 32m away in order to escape combat.

Been pulled right out of shared rides by BH attacks.

Jedi have used an exploit of using 2 attacks simultaneously in order to hit twice in a single action.

Alternate attack timers.

Jedi have exploited the Respec in order to train a bunch of low level boxes so that they could just respec 12 hours later to the high level boxes in order to circumvent the higher XP requirements.

And nobody else, especially BH's, used this same system to make MBH without doing Invesigation xp, did they?

Jedi have used the LOS exploit on the Rryyat Trails in order to avoid combat from BH.

BH's use the same LoS bug to escape a Jedi who's kicking their but and to avoid the mobs that chased them into the trail.

Jedi have used an exploit allowing them to DB themselves in order to not lose XP from a BH.

How can I do this? lol

How about these?

BH's that bug trail spawns by leaving unlooted corpses.

BH's that train mobs [against ToS] onto afk Jedi that they don't even have missions for.

BH's that use the camp bug exploit to remove LoS obstacles in Trail.

BH's that chain smugler shots that the devs have called a bug to two shot incapp a jedi and prevent him from healing.

Bria: Main - Sneaky Jedi / Master Pilot
Alt - MBH/Master Smuggler...before it was cool.

teufelhundenE4

Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:25 pm

#67

OhBuggah wrote:

Hmmm ... nothing new for smugglers? I see you've conveniently left out an entirely new slicing system with something that smugglers have been asking for a very, very long time: the ability to target the type of slices instead of a random one. Not only that, but there are entirely new types of slices beyond the plain vanilla speed/damage slices. I can imagine that the new slicing revamp took a big chunk of the developer's time, yet you think they have done nothing for smuggler?

The tone in your post sounds a bit hostile, don't you think?

I'll try and explain this to you, the slicing system is one thing that they have given us..granted. And yes, the thing that most (not all) of the smuggler community wanted was to be able to pick which slice to give. The thing we did not count on was this new loot-based slicing system. The price of slicing has drastically changed because we have been given a system that is totally dependent on loot in order for us to do our jobs effectively. As you may or may not be aware, the smuggler profession is not a strong combat profession so we are forced to rely on stronger proffs to loot these pieces for us, for the most part, and with that we are forced to buy these pieces at exhorbitant amounts of money from non-smugglers (mostly jedi - which are the most powerful profession on at this time who can regularly take out high-end creatures for these loot drops). And to top things all off, the nice specials we got post-CU were nerfed to h3ll because they were being used by BHs and jedis against eachother...we were able to enjoy them for, what, 2 or 3 weeks before they were gone? Anyway, if you want to learn about our frustration you can visit the smuggler forum and read about our broken promises all you want, not that you have to but it's best to be well informed and it seems you don't know the whole story about why smugglers as a whole are upset (driven to drink and eat pie, to put it in a more roguishly appealing way, not that you need a reason for beer and pie)

Teufelhunden

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Tucheck

Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:32 pm

#68

Blixtev wrote:

Why must it always be a conspiracy theory?

I'll give you the EASt truth to that question.

When given very little communication from the Devs, players are left with only their thoughts and imagination....a very powerful combination.

As for the "new" NPC Bounties, thanks for doing that in your spare time, it almost makes me wonder how much gets accomplished throughout the week.

If you could please, as you now seem to be the most vocal Dev, any update on the KD bug. I understand this is not a BH profession specific "issue", but I really would like to see it fixed.

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TookyG

Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:36 pm

#69

Thanks Blixtev. Whether or not many others say it, thanks.

Your skill at forum posting has increased by 1!

Stakex007

Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:39 pm

#70

Blixtev wrote:

Hasun wrote:

This isn't even one of our top 5 issues and its been addressed. This stinks. Smugglers were promised missions about 6 months ago and all they got from there "revamp" was a slicing systems that was changed 3 days before going live.

Jedi are the most hated profession ingame by the majority of professions, because of there constant attention, but recently I noticed alot of hostility towards bounty hunter because of the "attention" we are recieving.

I am beginning to wonder if this is the start of a master plan by SOE to takeaway player hatred from the jedi and place it on the BH's.

If we continue to get things we don't ask for while glaring exploits, bugged ridden professions and broken promises of revamps, many more professions will turn on us.

What really is bugging me though is if the development wants to show us love, why not combat one of our top issues like

Offline missions showing up in huge numbers on mission terms

Droids on Kashyyyk not tracking or giving names

None of our states stick on a regular basis in PvP

All that will happen after this patchis ALL jedi alts and None PvP players will respec to MBH in the hope of looting some pearls or a cash cow, seeing a massive increase in our profession, again making smugglers, squad leaders, rangers, entertainers, etchate us.

Why must it always be a conspiracy theory? It is as simple as I was working on BH/Jedi missions and ran a few NPC missions and went "Wow, these are lame, Why would anyone want to do these?" So I came into work over a weekend and made some new challenging Marks, created some new loot, and re-itemized.

It was as simple as something was lame, I thought I could make it better, andfixed it up in my freetime.

Not everyone is about the PvP game, and even those that are like a bit of respite from it every now and then. Plus withnice new loot on there, who wouldn't want to kill some Marks?

Becuase with you guys... it probly is.

Well tho this time it probly isn't.... its no secret that SOE wants to tip everything in favor of the Jedi, and pleas them. And there is nothing you can say that will change that.... the dev actions speak for them self. BH's whine about all the Jedi exploits and you guys drag your feet for so long. Jedi complain about BH's in some way and fairly shortly things are changed. The new system is not something the BH's desiered.... it was something the Jedi desiered. How about you do things to their profession that the BH's desier? You wont.... becuase unhappy Jedi are the last thing SOE wants. Its all a huge conspiracy to make Jedi happy, and to make it an uber profession thats cake to get and survive with... because there are a LOT of people playing this game simply for the Jedi profession. If the Jedi profession dosn't appeal to them... they wouldnt play, and SOE would lose lots of cash. The players aren't nearly as stupid as you think we are....

twotimes

Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:43 pm

#71

Tanks wrote:

Hasun wrote:

....If we continue to get things we don't ask for while glaring exploits, bugged ridden professions and broken promises of revamps, many more professions will turn on us.

How do you know your correspondent did not ask for better NPC missions? If you look at our top issues from way back, I asked for harder NPC missions. It was nice of Blix, while working on BH missions, to improve the PvE side of the BH missions.

Also, this is not a zero-sum game. If we get something, it does not mean others will not. There is more than one dev, and GreenMarine who is responsible for smugglers does not deal with Jedi or BHs.

Message Edited by Tanks on 07-23-2005 05:07 PM

yeah you might rememberGreenMarine from such wonderful Smuggler developments like "Soon"(tm) and "Plan B"...

thanks but no thanks.

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Tucheck

Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:49 pm

#72

VoowooIdo wrote:

Lotussutol wrote:

Blixtev wrote:

Hasun wrote:

This isn't even one of our top 5 issues and its been addressed. This stinks. Smugglers were promised missions about 6 months ago and all they got from there "revamp" was a slicing systems that was changed 3 days before going live.

Jedi are the most hated profession ingame by the majority of professions, because of there constant attention, but recently I noticed alot of hostility towards bounty hunter because of the "attention" we are recieving.

I am beginning to wonder if this is the start of a master plan by SOE to takeaway player hatred from the jedi and place it on the BH's.

If we continue to get things we don't ask for while glaring exploits, bugged ridden professions and broken promises of revamps, many more professions will turn on us.

What really is bugging me though is if the development wants to show us love, why not combat one of our top issues like

Offline missions showing up in huge numbers on mission terms

Droids on Kashyyyk not tracking or giving names

None of our states stick on a regular basis in PvP

All that will happen after this patch is ALL jedi alts and None PvP players will respec to MBH in the hope of looting some pearls or a cash cow, seeing a massive increase in our profession, again making smugglers, squad leaders, rangers, entertainers, etc hate us.

Why must it always be a conspiracy theory? It is as simple as I was working on BH/Jedi missions and ran a few NPC missions and went "Wow, these are lame, Why would anyone want to do these?" So I came into work over a weekend and made some new challenging Marks, created some new loot, and re-itemized.

It was as simple as something was lame, I thought I could make it better, and fixed it up in my freetime.

Not everyone is about the PvP game, and even those that are like a bit of respite from it every now and then. Plus with nice new loot on there, who wouldn't want to kill some Marks?

blix...thanks for the post...wish you could slap the communications department around and get them posting information...posts with info like this should be coming from the communications department more often and not from the actual devs since you guys and gals are busy coding!

sucks...you coding devs catch crap for lack of communication when that is TIGGS/TH department.

I think the communcation department is busy playing "WoW".

Fixed....

No I just think the communication is blown to hell. This "issue" has been on our "Top 10" list (number 6) for quite a while now. Despite Tanks efforts, it took a Dev to actually PLAY the damn game while testing something else out to "take notice"....EVEN though it's been said by Tanks for some time now. See where I'm going with this? Blixtev, it's hard to believe the Devs are informed or care when we don't even know WHAT you know, and what you plan on fixing. From our end, most of the time all we really see is new "bugged" game mechanics and "content" with outstanding issues unresolved. It's really turning into a "snaowball" effect, and from "our side" it only keeps getting bigger and bigger.

I have but one question for you though Blixtev:

Notice how your just about the ONLY Dev who still post anymore? What would that say to you if you were us?

And the Devs I admired most
The ones who ever bothered to post
They face trolls flames to roast
The day the Hunters died.....

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PramieJager

Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:08 pm

#73

Blixtev wrote:

Why must it always be a conspiracy theory? It is as simple as I was working on BH/Jedi missions and ran a few NPC missions and went "Wow, these are lame, Why would anyone want to do these?" So I came into work over a weekend and made some new challenging Marks, created some new loot, and re-itemized.

It was as simple as something was lame, I thought I could make it better, andfixed it up in my freetime.

Not everyone is about the PvP game, and even those that are like a bit of respite from it every now and then. Plus withnice new loot on there, who wouldn't want to kill some Marks?

Your efforts and desire to help the game are greatly appreciated.

And your effeorts here to explain things and relay information to the players helps us a lot.

Now can you grab Tiggs and give her some pointers on how tokeep thecommunity informed? Had we received this kind of communication about the vet rewards there would be a lot less unhappy players right now.

Yager -AR-

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doghairedinfant

Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:59 pm

#74

Blixtev wrote:

Hasun wrote:

This isn't even one of our top 5 issues and its been addressed. This stinks. Smugglers were promised missions about 6 months ago and all they got from there "revamp" was a slicing systems that was changed 3 days before going live.

Jedi are the most hated profession ingame by the majority of professions, because of there constant attention, but recently I noticed alot of hostility towards bounty hunter because of the "attention" we are recieving.

I am beginning to wonder if this is the start of a master plan by SOE to takeaway player hatred from the jedi and place it on the BH's.

If we continue to get things we don't ask for while glaring exploits, bugged ridden professions and broken promises of revamps, many more professions will turn on us.

What really is bugging me though is if the development wants to show us love, why not combat one of our top issues like

Offline missions showing up in huge numbers on mission terms

Droids on Kashyyyk not tracking or giving names

None of our states stick on a regular basis in PvP

All that will happen after this patch is ALL jedi alts and None PvP players will respec to MBH in the hope of looting some pearls or a cash cow, seeing a massive increase in our profession, again making smugglers, squad leaders, rangers, entertainers, etc hate us.

Why must it always be a conspiracy theory? It is as simple as I was working on BH/Jedi missions and ran a few NPC missions and went "Wow, these are lame, Why would anyone want to do these?" So I came into work over a weekend and made some new challenging Marks, created some new loot, and re-itemized.

It was as simple as something was lame, I thought I could make it better, and fixed it up in my freetime.

Not everyone is about the PvP game, and even those that are like a bit of respite from it every now and then. Plus with nice new loot on there, who wouldn't want to kill some Marks?

i guess his point, blixtev, was that there are like, one hundred other "lame" things with this game. and, we've documented and described the things that the community think are "lamest", and we don't understand why you would fix the things that we never complained about, in spite of the multitude of other, well documented things that we really hate and would like fixed.

Ezekeal

Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:39 pm

#75

Tanks wrote:

Hasun wrote:

....If we continue to get things we don't ask for while glaring exploits, bugged ridden professions and broken promises of revamps, many more professions will turn on us.

How do you know your correspondent did not ask for better NPC missions? If you look at our top issues from way back, I asked for harder NPC missions. It was nice of Blix, while working on BH missions, to improve the PvE side of the BH missions.

Also, this is not a zero-sum game. If we get something, it does not mean others will not. There is more than one dev, and GreenMarine who is responsible for smugglers does not deal with Jedi or BHs.
Message Edited by Tanks on 07-23-2005 05:07 PM

hmm, over all I hink that Blix has done good here. coupled with the upcoming hotfix (by blix) of the 'target not online' issue, I vote him most popular DEV of the month.

however, the lack of communication is still aggrivating. GreenMarine has been persumed KIA for a long time. I can't even remember when I last saw him post.

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Cafa

Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:48 pm

#76

Blixtev wrote:

Hasun wrote:

This isn't even one of our top 5 issues and its been addressed. This stinks. Smugglers were promised missions about 6 months ago and all they got from there "revamp" was a slicing systems that was changed 3 days before going live.

Jedi are the most hated profession ingame by the majority of professions, because of there constant attention, but recently I noticed alot of hostility towards bounty hunter because of the "attention" we are recieving.

I am beginning to wonder if this is the start of a master plan by SOE to takeaway player hatred from the jedi and place it on the BH's.

If we continue to get things we don't ask for while glaring exploits, bugged ridden professions and broken promises of revamps, many more professions will turn on us.

What really is bugging me though is if the development wants to show us love, why not combat one of our top issues like

Offline missions showing up in huge numbers on mission terms

Droids on Kashyyyk not tracking or giving names

None of our states stick on a regular basis in PvP

All that will happen after this patchis ALL jedi alts and None PvP players will respec to MBH in the hope of looting some pearls or a cash cow, seeing a massive increase in our profession, again making smugglers, squad leaders, rangers, entertainers, etchate us.

Why must it always be a conspiracy theory? It is as simple as I was working on BH/Jedi missions and ran a few NPC missions and went "Wow, these are lame, Why would anyone want to do these?" So I came into work over a weekend and made some new challenging Marks, created some new loot, and re-itemized.

It was as simple as something was lame, I thought I could make it better, andfixed it up in my freetime.

Not everyone is about the PvP game, and even those that are like a bit of respite from it every now and then. Plus withnice new loot on there, who wouldn't want to kill some Marks?

Ignore the whiners. I have two MBH's and i'd like some interesting content. Efforts are appreciated.

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ner0sputnik

Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:50 pm

#77

Blixtev wrote:

Why must it always be a conspiracy theory? It is as simple as I was working on BH/Jedi missions and ran a few NPC missions and went "Wow, these are lame, Why would anyone want to do these?" So I came into work over a weekend and made some new challenging Marks, created some new loot, and re-itemized.

It was as simple as something was lame, I thought I could make it better, andfixed it up in my freetime.

Not everyone is about the PvP game, and even those that are like a bit of respite from it every now and then. Plus withnice new loot on there, who wouldn't want to kill some Marks?

Blixtev. That is so cool. You rock! Thanks for taking the time out to respond. (Now... any word on the Smugglers? :smileywink

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(But let me earn it by Smuggling)

Wolveryne40

Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:51 pm

#78

bakawanka wrote:

Blixtev wrote:

Why must it always be a conspiracy theory? It is as simple as I was working on BH/Jedi missions and ran a few NPC missions and went "Wow, these are lame, Why would anyone want to do these?" So I came into work over a weekend and made some new challenging Marks, created some new loot, and re-itemized.

It was as simple as something was lame, I thought I could make it better, and fixed it up in my freetime.

Thank you for proving what we've known all along the Devs have NO CLUE how the game is played on a daily basis on a live server.

Now on your next free weekend you may want to try the following professions:

Smuggler

Entertainer

Creature Handler

Bio Engineer

Doctor

An thank you for being so clueless and not realizing that he DID NOT have to come in on HIS DAYS OFF and fix something ON HIS OWN.
Thank You, for such a mind numbing display of selfcenterness not to realise that, that simple train of thought from thousands of other CLUELESS selfcentered morons will stop those little trips to the office. Since, if I were them, I would be saying I found something here thats easy to fix... well wait, nahh... they all just b1tched and complained about it last time i tried something.

Not realising...

Hey, least something was done. something you all like to B1TCH about on a non stop basis.

"You know, that part I see over an over again on these forums, about how one wishes they would do something, ANYTHING, to fix this game, that would be that part."

So why should I even bother going in, I'll just go elsewhere on my day off, after all, they wouldn't appreciate it anyways. I have better things to do than get raked over the coals everyday no matter what I do or don't do.

Yeah, thanks alot...
>insert slow sarcastic clap here<

Blixtev,

I thank you for going the extra mile to improve this game. Be it a bug here or mission there, its nice to know on occasion someone tries to help us out over there. Especially on their day/s off, Thanks again.

For that, ill be a bit nicer on my next bug report.

Message Edited by Wolveryne40 on 07-23-2005 10:58 PM

He's dead Jim.

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