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Thread: Why are we getting a mission revamp and the smugglers are getting squat?

RebRifle
Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:28 pm
#53





Blixtev wrote:





Hasun wrote:

This isn't even one of our top 5 issues and its been addressed. This stinks. Smugglers were promised missions about 6 months ago and all they got from there "revamp" was a slicing systems that was changed 3 days before going live.


Jedi are the most hated profession ingame by the majority of professions, because of there constant attention, but recently I noticed alot of hostility towards bounty hunter because of the "attention" we are recieving.


I am beginning to wonder if this is the start of a master plan by SOE to takeaway player hatred from the jedi and place it on the BH's.


If we continue to get things we don't ask for while glaring exploits, bugged ridden professions and broken promises of revamps, many more professions will turn on us.


What really is bugging me though is if the development wants to show us love, why not combat one of our top issues like



  1. Offline missions showing up in huge numbers on mission terms

  2. Droids on Kashyyyk not tracking or giving names

  3. None of our states stick on a regular basis in PvP

All that will happen after this patchis ALL jedi alts and None PvP players will respec to MBH in the hope of looting some pearls or a cash cow, seeing a massive increase in our profession, again making smugglers, squad leaders, rangers, entertainers, etchate us.







Why must it always be a conspiracy theory? It is as simple as I was working on BH/Jedi missions and ran a few NPC missions and went "Wow, these are lame, Why would anyone want to do these?" So I came into work over a weekend and made some new challenging Marks, created some new loot, and re-itemized.


It was as simple as something was lame, I thought I could make it better, andfixed it up in my freetime.


Not everyone is about the PvP game, and even those that are like a bit of respite from it every now and then. Plus withnice new loot on there, who wouldn't want to kill some Marks?






lol cause most people who play bh's and jedi are nuerotics/ borderline psychotics
Thassk
Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:28 pm
#54








lol cause most people who play bh's and jedi are nuerotics/ borderline psychotics





* raises hand *



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Mullet-MAN
Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:30 pm
#55


I think it is great that you are working on fixing issues!! BH NPC missions have needed some tweaks since day one. Of course people will say the issue that you did not fixis more important because everyone has diffrent views on what should be done. I want to thank you for comming in on a weekend and doing this, makes me wonder what you are working on this weekend....... Everyone knows there is a tone of things that need fixing in this game there is always going to be consiracy theorys because there is no comunication. We the customers have no idea what is going on, it is like being a share holder for a company that does not tell you what thier buisness plan is or any guidance for future quarters (stock would plumit). It is hard to have any faith in the company due to the historical facts and outstanding issues and decisions that have been made not in the intrest of creating the best possible online game.



I do not know if I am alone but in recent months I have spent more time on the forums than in the game hoping to find some information or glimmer of hope that the game will someday be close to how great it could be.



I thank you personaly for seeing somthing that could be fixed and taking the initiatve to fix it. And I apoligize for the people that ......(fill in the blanks cause I wont even read them all)


Thanks,

Message Edited by Mullet-MAN on 07-23-2005 04:36 PM




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ryuzobattosai
Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:40 pm
#56






Blixtev wrote:


Why must it always be a conspiracy theory?






Why? Because this is the only CS/Devteam that leaves its community in the dark and never tells them what is going on.



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Ternque01
Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:01 pm
#57

Thanks for sticking up for smugglers, Hasun. It seems most of the player population is beginning to realize the rediculousness of the situation. What really cooks my biscuits is that Jedi seem to get every publish, while smugglers still having nothing to do but stand around and look cool =/


I also hope the producers of this game grow enough balls to put us on the BH terms if we screw up BIGTIME during our missions. I would fail every mission I take just to get that opportunity.


No balls.No love.


At least Blixtev is going out of his way to help you guys. Any dev who fixes a non-Jedi profession is A+ in my book.





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The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
Tanks
Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:03 pm
#58







Hasun wrote:

....If we continue to get things we don't ask for while glaring exploits, bugged ridden professions and broken promises of revamps, many more professions will turn on us.






How do you know your correspondent did not ask for better NPC missions? If you look at our top issues from way back, I asked for harder NPC missions. It was nice of Blix, while working on BH missions, to improve the PvE side of the BH missions.


Also, this is not a zero-sum game. If we get something, it does not mean others will not. There is more than one dev, and GreenMarine who is responsible for smugglers does not deal with Jedi or BHs.

Message Edited by Tanks on 07-23-2005 05:07 PM



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jafo1
Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:06 pm
#59


Tanks wrote:


Hasun wrote:
....If we continue to get things we don't ask for while glaring exploits, bugged ridden professions and broken promises of revamps, many more professions will turn on us.


How do you know your correspondent did not ask for better NPC missions?

Also, this is not a zero-sum game. If we get something, it does not mean others will not. There is more than one dev, and GreenMarine who is responsible for smugglers does not deal with Jedi or BHs.






I see Tanks Hold Blixtiv (SP) Sockpuppet at the SOE sweatshop fixing BH missions.

Message Edited by jafo1 on 07-23-2005 05:08 PM




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teufelhundenE4
Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:34 pm
#60






Tanks wrote:




How do you know your correspondent did not ask for better NPC missions? If you look at our top issues from way back, I asked for harder NPC missions. It was nice of Blix, while working on BH missions, to improve the PvE side of the BH missions.


Also, this is not a zero-sum game. If we get something, it does not mean others will not. There is more than one dev, and GreenMarine who is responsible for smugglers does not deal with Jedi or BHs.


Message Edited by Tanks on 07-23-2005 05:07 PM




Tanks, along with these harder BH NPC missions...is the BHxp getting a boost also? As a master we don't really need BH xp anymore but if we are working on the village quests, 1 to 1 xp exchange for BHxp is something we could really take good advantage of if we got more BH xp during the NPC missions.


Not to mention that if the xp goes up across the board (investigate 1 thru 4) it would make that god awful grind alot more bearable for non-masters.





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Shadwe
Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:42 pm
#61



Dlek_Krego wrote:


Chemistrius wrote:
Oh and just FYI, next time you see someone slap a stormtrooper and start walking your way, try actually doing something rather than stand there like a deer caught in the headlights.

Pop a synthsteak, use AI, Forcerun away, Cloak...Don't just stand there and act like a baby seal preparing to be clubbed.





Ok, gotcha... we see a BH using an exploit, and we are just supposed to run, and not get upset that the BH just misused a move in a manner it was not intended... Glad we are clear now.




And dropping a house to hide in is intended along with the exploits used on kashyyyk?

Note not a BH, just a smuggler who has lost abilities because jedi and bh's exploit them.



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RankorCity
Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:42 pm
#62






Blixtev wrote:





Hasun wrote:

This isn't even one of our top 5 issues and its been addressed. This stinks. Smugglers were promised missions about 6 months ago and all they got from there "revamp" was a slicing systems that was changed 3 days before going live.


Jedi are the most hated profession ingame by the majority of professions, because of there constant attention, but recently I noticed alot of hostility towards bounty hunter because of the "attention" we are recieving.


I am beginning to wonder if this is the start of a master plan by SOE to takeaway player hatred from the jedi and place it on the BH's.


If we continue to get things we don't ask for while glaring exploits, bugged ridden professions and broken promises of revamps, many more professions will turn on us.


What really is bugging me though is if the development wants to show us love, why not combat one of our top issues like



  1. Offline missions showing up in huge numbers on mission terms

  2. Droids on Kashyyyk not tracking or giving names

  3. None of our states stick on a regular basis in PvP

All that will happen after this patchis ALL jedi alts and None PvP players will respec to MBH in the hope of looting some pearls or a cash cow, seeing a massive increase in our profession, again making smugglers, squad leaders, rangers, entertainers, etchate us.







Why must it always be a conspiracy theory? It is as simple as I was working on BH/Jedi missions and ran a few NPC missions and went "Wow, these are lame, Why would anyone want to do these?" So I came into work over a weekend and made some new challenging Marks, created some new loot, and re-itemized.


It was as simple as something was lame, I thought I could make it better, andfixed it up in my freetime.


Not everyone is about the PvP game, and even those that are like a bit of respite from it every now and then. Plus withnice new loot on there, who wouldn't want to kill some Marks?








Wish you would apply the same school of thought to Commando: i.e. actually play it and see what a miserable failure this "utility/toolbox" idea you have is



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cchabot
Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:49 pm
#63






Hasun wrote:

This isn't even one of our top 5 issues and its been addressed. This stinks. Smugglers were promised missions about 6 months ago and all they got from there "revamp" was a slicing systems that was changed 3 days before going live.


Jedi are the most hated profession ingame by the majority of professions, because of there constant attention, but recently I noticed alot of hostility towards bounty hunter because of the "attention" we are recieving.





Oh no you have not an idea how it feels!


If this keeps up for a month or 6, and every 'fix' will improve the profession but 'balance' it because of the cries of other professions, MBH will take 250 skill points and proton carbines stop dropping, scatters are turned in 20 dps weapons and your kickdown shot will be nerfed because players complained "falling down hurt my behind to much!"


Then .. you will reach enlightenment; Have a slight notion of how it feels


And sheesh, be glad the profession you have got some love, some new content, some new things to do! Talking about looking a gift horse in the mouth!





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OhBuggah
Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:50 pm
#64






Ternque01 wrote:

Thanks for sticking up for smugglers, Hasun. It seems most of the player population is beginning to realize the rediculousness of the situation. What really cooks my biscuits is that Jedi seem to get every publish, while smugglers still having nothing to do but stand around and look cool =/




Hmmm ... nothing new for smugglers? I see you've conveniently left out an entirely new slicing system with something that smugglers have been asking for a very, very long time: the ability to target the type of slices instead of a random one. Not only that, but there are entirely new types of slices beyond the plain vanilla speed/damage slices. I can imagine that the new slicing revamp took a big chunk of the developer's time, yet you think they have done nothing for smuggler?

Thassk
Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:54 pm
#65



i think the new smuggler slicing system is pretty cool myself and can see a huge rise in slicing prices .. for anyone who isnt BH ... some of the slicing components on our new loot lists are some ive been looking for for a while and didnt know where to get ( i always managed to find some on krayts but not the ones i wanted) ... i think the new slicing system benefits both smugglers and BH in fact... the added % to critical shot is very tempting as well as the defense against armor break ..


thats a good point lady cuz i think a lot of us forget about it when thinking about smuggler .. its become such a chiseled on stone perception that smugglers were so broken and needed fixing ... ( im not saying they dont need more love .. just saying lets not ignore the love they have recieved)

Message Edited by Thassk on 07-23-2005 05:56 PM



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