Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Eliminate Jedi experience loss
but really the only thing perma death will cause is jedi to quit.
then if you have jedi quit then the bh will do nothing but do npc missons. which will in turn , the good loot will be nerfed because there will be too much in circulation which soe will nerf that and make the bh missons harder which will take out anything worth while that gives the bh his name.
but that is also true if u take or remove the jedi xp from dying then it may just cause some ppl not to fight back and just take the db if they have a doc on hand so that really cant be removed either. I mean look at it this way if you are not full temp and you were grinding for xp, u can do a 30min fight with a bh/cm or take the db and grind 180k jedi xp in that time in a jedi spin group. up to you. To me i enjoy the being hunted but i dont like losing but who does. But i have no problems with dying and losing xp if the bh fights fair and doesnt exploit.
TrandotionAssassin wrote:
swg-albert wrote:
BH would be a hell of a lot more fun if Jedi would stay and fight. At this point in the game, why the hell would they. Jedi can only lose exp. They even gain more visibility from fighting.
If bounties were like normal PvP, a lot more Jedi would play ball.Get rid of the exp loss. At least the Jedi doesn't lose anything, and we, the BHs, can still get the bounty without standing outside a house fortwo days.
1. Jedi is waay to easy as it is. No need to make it easier.
2. Whats the point of hunting jedi if you don't make em lose exp
For fun and money instead of being a griefing little pr!ck
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And yes, hunting them for the sole intent of causing xp loss is considered griefing in my book.
Vcardossk wrote:
QStonecloud wrote:
I wish they would have kept PVE xp loss, and taken away PVP xp loss. Would have saved all the hate tells and threats to my family I have gotten. I juts like 1 on 1 pvp, i dont care if they are better. Would also have taken out alot of afk grinding. And spin groupd etc, SOE just dosent see the forest for the TREES!!!!
That is hte most HORRIBLE idea ever. You only lost xp if you cloned, and getting a rez would be a piece of cake now a days.
Aka jedi would loosing nothing.
and what do the bh have to lose? yes, I'm a bh too..and I've realized that the only thing bh have to lose is a bit of condition in their armor. Boo hoo. Would you like a tissue? Or would you like to have to gain mbh through bh xp? honestly that's how it should be.
having one side with something to lose and the other with nothing is where the whole imbalance lies. Look, if we didn't have anything to lose then maybe we'd stand and fight instead of hiding in the houses. If in turn this xp loss was increased, like someone earlier stated should be done.. Jedi would hide even more. So what do you really want, a reason to whine or a jedi to hunt? You tell me.
BeefStoo wrote:
Vcardossk wrote:
QStonecloud wrote:
I wish they would have kept PVE xp loss, and taken away PVP xp loss. Would have saved all the hate tells and threats to my family I have gotten. I juts like 1 on 1 pvp, i dont care if they are better. Would also have taken out alot of afk grinding. And spin groupd etc, SOE just dosent see the forest for the TREES!!!!
That is hte most HORRIBLE idea ever. You only lost xp if you cloned, and getting a rez would be a piece of cake now a days.
Aka jedi would loosing nothing.
and what do the bh have to lose? yes, I'm a bh too..and I've realized that the only thing bh have to lose is a bit of condition in their armor. Boo hoo. Would you like a tissue? Or would you like to have to gain mbh through bh xp? honestly that's how it should be.
having one side with something to lose and the other with nothing is where the whole imbalance lies. Look, if we didn't have anything to lose then maybe we'd stand and fight instead of hiding in the houses. If in turn this xp loss was increased, like someone earlier stated should be done.. Jedi would hide even more. So what do you really want, a reason to whine or a jedi to hunt? You tell me.
. Take your head out of your butt so you can think clearly.
CeboWookie wrote:
Get out with stoopid ideas like this, games are here to play and have fun not to loose everyhing we played for for a long time in one instance, we jedi wanna have fun to ya know, not just you. What makes you wann hurt us so badly ? Did your mommy not give you enough attention when you where little ? Need those frustrations taken out on fellow Computer game players in an online game ? I pitty you....
VanlaenSWG wrote:
They should get rid of the xp loss for jedi killed by bh on a mission and just add the perma death back in again, die in pve = exp loss ... die to bh missions 3 times = perma death
Message Edited by CeboWookie on 08-13-2005 03:00 AM
QStonecloud wrote:
Vcardossk wrote:
QStonecloud wrote:
I wish they would have kept PVE xp loss, and taken away PVP xp loss. Would have saved all the hate tells and threats to my family I have gotten. I juts like 1 on 1 pvp, i dont care if they are better. Would also have taken out alot of afk grinding. And spin groupd etc, SOE just dosent see the forest for the TREES!!!!
That is hte most HORRIBLE idea ever. You only lost xp if you cloned, and getting a rez would be a piece of cake now a days.
Aka jedi would loosing nothing.
Then make it if you die, they just about have a free ride now.
Then jedi would loos such pitiful xp it isn't funny, it used to be 15k if you had novice box, 50k for tier 1, or something like that but at tier 4/master it was a piddly 200k. So changing it to the suggested idea would make jedi even easier giving a much shorter free ride.
shadowhound wrote:
but really the only thing perma death will cause is jedi to quit.
Maybe, but that is the path you take when you become a jedi. Noone is forcing you into becoming one so why is it a problem?
Vcardossk wrote:
VanlaenSWG wrote:
CeboWookie wrote:
Get out with stoopid ideas like this, games are here to play and have fun not to loose everyhing we played for for a long time in one instance, we jedi wanna have fun to ya know, not just you. What makes you wann hurt us so badly ? Did your mommy not give you enough attention when you where little ? Need those frustrations taken out on fellow Computer game players in an online game ? I pitty you....
VanlaenSWG wrote:
They should get rid of the xp loss for jedi killed by bh on a mission and just add the perma death back in again, die in pve = exp loss ... die to bh missions 3 times = perma death
Message Edited by CeboWookie on 08-13-2005 03:00 AM
Why would you be losing everything you have? Jedi were supposed to be rare and hidden, being on the terminals was supposed to be the ultimate punishment. Surely it's not that hard to stay off the terminals... the path of the jedi was never supposed to be an easy one, it was a path of solitude and hardship. If you want to have fun as you pointed out, noone's stopping you, but you should do it within the confines of the storyline.
Therefore eliminating us from 90%+ of all content, face it the time line is shot to hell and everyone who doesn't realize it needs their head examined.
BeefStoo wrote:
Vcardossk wrote:
QStonecloud wrote:
I wish they would have kept PVE xp loss, and taken away PVP xp loss. Would have saved all the hate tells and threats to my family I have gotten. I juts like 1 on 1 pvp, i dont care if they are better. Would also have taken out alot of afk grinding. And spin groupd etc, SOE just dosent see the forest for the TREES!!!!
That is hte most HORRIBLE idea ever. You only lost xp if you cloned, and getting a rez would be a piece of cake now a days.
Aka jedi would loosing nothing.
and what do the bh have to lose? yes, I'm a bh too..and I've realized that the only thing bh have to lose is a bit of condition in their armor. Boo hoo. Would you like a tissue? Or would you like to have to gain mbh through bh xp? honestly that's how it should be.
having one side with something to lose and the other with nothing is where the whole imbalance lies. Look, if we didn't have anything to lose then maybe we'd stand and fight instead of hiding in the houses. If in turn this xp loss was increased, like someone earlier stated should be done.. Jedi would hide even more. So what do you really want, a reason to whine or a jedi to hunt? You tell me.
Then why have I had full templates run from me?
Bragging rights is why. No one wants to be the one who loses.
OhBuggah wrote:
Vcardossk wrote:
OhBuggah wrote:
sure, i'd agree with the original poster if, and only if, they get brought down in power to being only 1.0 times more powerful than everyone else. they could nerf across the board all damage output on jedi by 33% and make all current premium and flawless pearls to good and quality. then it would be fair to remove XP loss.
We already are comparable to normal profs, lol. I can make a non-jedi template that is as good if not better than a like jedi version.
Non-jedi temp= 10-13mill tops.
Jedi temp: 30-36million jedi xp=about 150-180million non-jedi xp.
You cannot make an MBH template that is "as good or better" than a Jedi template. Jedi have better weapons, better abilities, better weapons specials, better armor ... in every single way. A full template Jedi at the top of his game will always beat a bounty hunter at the top of his game.
I've heard that there are pure melee templates that can fight a Jedi to a draw, but fighting one of those guys and losing will NEVER result in XP loss.
Notice i said non-jedi template, and mbh/cm can't fight just about any jedi to 0 force or cause a retreat if you play your cards right. Especially the newer jedi because of sh!t tunes.
Lets see, jedi inate armor equates to a 45-55% dmg reduction, somewhere in there. A non-jedi can easily match that with armor, and surpass the restsitances in many cases seeing as some armor go up to 7-8k resistance.
No saber in this game can break the 1k dmg limit(im talking about weapon stats), we make up for it in better elemental dmg but that's still not that big of a help. I know rifle's that plug me for 1k-1.2k a shot since i'm a non-defender, my saber averages that much on other non-defender jedi when they're armor broken.
Lets see, pistoleer and pikeman intim>jedi intim. Non-jedi healing>jedi healing. Non-jedi offense> jedi offense. Jedi defense>non-melee jedi defense(melee folk can compare to jedi mdefenders). Jedi has 1 root 1 snare(i don't count weaken cause it's 5 seconds lol, waste of force) a except prof every almost in kd have non-jedi non-master one and down knock master 1 has Jedi roots. snares 3-4 least at>
Would you like more or is that enough?
VanlaenSWG wrote:
Maybe, but that is the path you take when you become a jedi. Noone is forcing you into becoming one so why is it a problem?
Vcardossk wrote:
VanlaenSWG wrote:
CeboWookie wrote:
Get out with stoopid ideas like this, games are here to play and have fun not to loose everyhing we played for for a long time in one instance, we jedi wanna have fun to ya know, not just you. What makes you wann hurt us so badly ? Did your mommy not give you enough attention when you where little ? Need those frustrations taken out on fellow Computer game players in an online game ? I pitty you....
VanlaenSWG wrote:
They should get rid of the xp loss for jedi killed by bh on a mission and just add the perma death back in again, die in pve = exp loss ... die to bh missions 3 times = perma death
Message Edited by CeboWookie on 08-13-2005 03:00 AM
Why would you be losing everything you have? Jedi were supposed to be rare and hidden, being on the terminals was supposed to be the ultimate punishment. Surely it's not that hard to stay off the terminals... the path of the jedi was never supposed to be an easy one, it was a path of solitude and hardship. If you want to have fun as you pointed out, noone's stopping you, but you should do it within the confines of the storyline.
Therefore eliminating us from 90%+ of all content, face it the time line is shot to hell and everyone who doesn't realize it needs their head examined.
Because games are supposed to be FUN, and a game isn't fun when you can't do anything in it.
BeefStoo wrote:
oh, I'm sorry. I forgot to mention, I'm not a respec bh, because I unlocked -after- the CU .. I never had the opprotunity to respec.So don't bother telling me what the mark are like before your jedi...and it's a forum, not a trash talking convention. lol. Please get over yourself.
, i've been one since way b4 the CU..