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Thread: Duel exploit still ruining it.

HappyFunBal
Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:08 am
#66






Barrek wrote:


Sad to say bro (and you can get pissed at me for saying it if you want to) if it were something that hurt the Jedi rather than us........it would be fixed by now.





This is so true. I mean, Jedi has nothing broken in it at all. The moment it is actuallybroken, it's fixed. There is nothing wrong with any of the five Jedi professions right now.






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DrElectman
Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:53 am
#67

its just no fun if you run straight up to the jedi. I love to use cover up and crawl up to them wait to the right moment bang bang dead. the mcm bounty hunters just anoy me.



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Nathanielstarr
Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:06 pm
#68






Oss_Wilum wrote:

imo, the devs have chimed in loud and clear on this one:


bigger fish to fry, sry.



yes it's an exploit


yes it happened because of a bigger exploit


no, it isn't absolutely gamebreaking since if it happens the surprise is already lost


no, no one will be banned


no, no one will be punished[








You're right except when you say surprise is already lost. The /duel thing affects me usually in populated cities (theed, dant MO) where people will normally be anyway. I could be tending whatever kind of business there, but many Jedi these days will just do /duel to check on known bounty hunters. If it wasn't for this clear cut yes or no answer most of them would let their guards down.


This has also affected me during pvp battles where I am offduty and among other off duty spectators and I'm waiting for my jedi target to get into trouble. But then all the jedi on both sides start doing /duel to everyone and when they find out who I am after that person either cloaks, leaves or runs into their base.
HyprHypo
Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:17 pm
#69



DarthRevan88 wrote:
if you roll up to a bunch of jedis grinding in the middle of no were (i've done it) there gunna be suspicious already....then u get like 5 duel messages and one of them finds out..like what happend to me "bring it f*****" he said clear indication he knew and its happend to me about 4 other times





on the bridge in the trials, you have no choice but to run up to them. they scatter and duel you and then get back to grinding, of course if they arent afk



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AgentDib
Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:32 pm
#70

If you are a MBH/MCM, then you basically aren't going for stealth anyway. You pull up, store your speeder and instantly paralyze then apply the debuffs, then open up with the fight and just try to tank the jedi until they run out of force. This is pretty ridiculous for a BH, but it's a very effective strategy against grinding padawans and getting kind of popular.


I prefer BH/Rifles for Cover, as mentioned earlier. You can go into cover way before you show up at the waypoint, then crawl forward and the jedi will never have any idea that he isn't by himself. If your mark is in the DWB on a loot run, it's positively fantastic to go into cover on the top of the peak overlooking the jedi shrine and kill him when he clones out of the DWB.


As for the duel exploit - it does ruin the idea of running up to them and pretending to hunt alongside them. If you are really trying to roleplay a feared bounty hunter, however, wouldn't you like to think that you had enough notoriety to invalidate methods like that? I just don't see Boba Fett knocking on a mark's front door claiming to bea pizza delivery man, then asking the markif hewould like to hang out for a couple of hours.





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Darka-ce
Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:19 pm
#71



AD_Maj wrote:

Ok you guys arent hearing me.

Thats good and all but why do the jedi have to see you??

If you HAVE to be so close to a jedi to where they see you, pick up rifles for cover, or better yet invest some points in the cover line.

I try really really hard to not let jedi see me so I have the element of surprise. If you are standing close to them hunting krayts, im pretty damn sure they are gonna examine you and see see " Has mastered the bounty hunter profession. "






Amen brother,

You have to be in visual range for a Jedi to get a /duel on you. If you've been spotted at that range, then sorry sparky, you've already lost the element of suprise. Yes, I can understand the frustration if you are trying to play it cool, blend in (also meaning not wearing your MBH or Combat Medic tag) so you can catch your mark unwares. But it takes more skill than that. I see so many dumb mistakes by BHs. You walk around in RIS or COMP. You carry a scatter pistol or LLC. You actually WEAR YOUR TAG....DUH. You don't make your character non-searchable. Believe me when I tell you all this. If a Jedi has targeted you for a duel, he knew you were a BH to begin with. The trick is to slip in and not have them do this. At least right now, you have some "grading system" to test your sneakiness. Call it a pass/fail. If you can slip up to attack range to a Jedi and he doesn't /duel you, you're doing it properly. If he does... *buzz... you're out, you messed up somewhere.

Stop trying to dumb down the game and smarten your play-style instead.





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Nathanielstarr
Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:11 pm
#72






RyFord wrote:





Nathanielstarr wrote:

So surprise is supposed to make us equal to a full temp jedi....now with a simple /duel that is taken away....it's game breaking for us really. We have to run in guns blazing to get the drop on a jedi and we cannot study them at all or wait for the right moment. They always know now. Bounty hunters are not rush in and attack guys they are hunters....do you wave to a deer and get it's attention before you shoot it?


Do we need to do what the jedi do whenever something isn't going there way and just threaten to cancel to get anything changed?


You know I don't mind losing, I don't mind fighting an opponent that is superior in everyway but for the devs to actually say "this makes you equal" and then not fix something that makes us "not equal" is just another slap in the face towards the non-jedi population.


We also need to treat those that use this exploit as what they are....exploiters.





No offense but you should be out studying the Bounties before you accept the missions. Use your /notepad to make notes of people.





You should know how bounty missions work post publish 20 before you makethat statement.
Nathanielstarr
Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:13 pm
#73






Darka-ce wrote:





AD_Maj wrote:

Ok you guys arent hearing me.



Thats good and all but why do the jedi have to see you??



If you HAVE to be so close to a jedi to where they see you, pick up rifles for cover, or better yet invest some points in the cover line.



I try really really hard to not let jedi see me so I have the element of surprise. If you are standing close to them hunting krayts, im pretty damn sure they are gonna examine you and see see " Has mastered the bounty hunter profession. "









Amen brother,

You have to be in visual range for a Jedi to get a /duel on you. If you've been spotted at that range, then sorry sparky, you've already lost the element of suprise. Yes, I can understand the frustration if you are trying to play it cool, blend in (also meaning not wearing your MBH or Combat Medic tag) so you can catch your mark unwares. But it takes more skill than that. I see so many dumb mistakes by BHs. You walk around in RIS or COMP. You carry a scatter pistol or LLC. You actually WEAR YOUR TAG....DUH. You don't make your character non-searchable. Believe me when I tell you all this. If a Jedi has targeted you for a duel, he knew you were a BH to begin with. The trick is to slip in and not have them do this. At least right now, you have some "grading system" to test your sneakiness. Call it a pass/fail. If you can slip up to attack range to a Jedi and he doesn't /duel you, you're doing it properly. If he does... *buzz... you're out, you messed up somewhere.

Stop trying to dumb down the game and smarten your play-style instead.




Only you jedi are saying this crap....Master Force Weilder...figures. Master Exploit Weilder
Xalya_Shadowalker
Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:21 pm
#74






Nathanielstarr wrote:





Darka-ce wrote:





AD_Maj wrote:

Ok you guys arent hearing me.



Thats good and all but why do the jedi have to see you??



If you HAVE to be so close to a jedi to where they see you, pick up rifles for cover, or better yet invest some points in the cover line.



I try really really hard to not let jedi see me so I have the element of surprise. If you are standing close to them hunting krayts, im pretty damn sure they are gonna examine you and see see " Has mastered the bounty hunter profession. "









Amen brother,

You have to be in visual range for a Jedi to get a /duel on you. If you've been spotted at that range, then sorry sparky, you've already lost the element of suprise. Yes, I can understand the frustration if you are trying to play it cool, blend in (also meaning not wearing your MBH or Combat Medic tag) so you can catch your mark unwares. But it takes more skill than that. I see so many dumb mistakes by BHs. You walk around in RIS or COMP. You carry a scatter pistol or LLC. You actually WEAR YOUR TAG....DUH. You don't make your character non-searchable. Believe me when I tell you all this. If a Jedi has targeted you for a duel, he knew you were a BH to begin with. The trick is to slip in and not have them do this. At least right now, you have some "grading system" to test your sneakiness. Call it a pass/fail. If you can slip up to attack range to a Jedi and he doesn't /duel you, you're doing it properly. If he does... *buzz... you're out, you messed up somewhere.

Stop trying to dumb down the game and smarten your play-style instead.




Only you jedi are saying this crap....Master Force Weilder...figures. Master Exploit Weilder





Actually Nathanial, while I agree with you that the /duel is crap and needs to be changed (mostly because im sick of my alt getting 20 duel requests loading into a starport while doing NPC missions) a lot of the time if someone has time to do a /duel on you (I'm thinking more of situations where you're out in the field, not loading into a starport) then you've already been spotted and put under suspicion. Still makes it lame though, I'd never use the thing, because if you have to know a BH is about to attack to beat them, youre a pretty sucky Jedi.





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Darka-ce
Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:27 pm
#75


Nathanielstarr wrote:


Darka-ce wrote:


AD_Maj wrote:

Ok you guys arent hearing me.

Thats good and all but why do the jedi have to see you??

If you HAVE to be so close to a jedi to where they see you, pick up rifles for cover, or better yet invest some points in the cover line.

I try really really hard to not let jedi see me so I have the element of surprise. If you are standing close to them hunting krayts, im pretty damn sure they are gonna examine you and see see " Has mastered the bounty hunter profession. "






Amen brother,

You have to be in visual range for a Jedi to get a /duel on you. If you've been spotted at that range, then sorry sparky, you've already lost the element of suprise. Yes, I can understand the frustration if you are trying to play it cool, blend in (also meaning not wearing your MBH or Combat Medic tag) so you can catch your mark unwares. But it takes more skill than that. I see so many dumb mistakes by BHs. You walk around in RIS or COMP. You carry a scatter pistol or LLC. You actually WEAR YOUR TAG....DUH. You don't make your character non-searchable. Believe me when I tell you all this. If a Jedi has targeted you for a duel, he knew you were a BH to begin with. The trick is to slip in and not have them do this. At least right now, you have some "grading system" to test your sneakiness. Call it a pass/fail. If you can slip up to attack range to a Jedi and he doesn't /duel you, you're doing it properly. If he does... *buzz... you're out, you messed up somewhere.

Stop trying to dumb down the game and smarten your play-style instead.


Only you jedi are saying this crap....Master Force Weilder...figures. Master Exploit Weilder






And when did you respec your BH friend? Skippy, I've been MBH since Pub 6. Killed more than my share of Jedi who, had 85% saber block, had buffs, dealt "Saber damage" which I had zero resists against, could run and hide in their house DURING the fight, could have a posee' escort them around AND attack me, could have other Jedi heal and transfer force to them during a fight, so yeah...uh..been there done that. Come to me when you can say the same.

As for Master Exploit Wielder? Interesting, had your azz handed to you lately by a Master Powers have you? Otherwise, step off and move along.





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Artigo_Quyiter
Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:33 pm
#76






xEPICx wrote:
I love using /duel.





rofl



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hamhamthe3rd
Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:39 pm
#77

most use a radar range of 128m, 256m just doesnt update fast enough. many bhs have surprised me and although im not paranoid checking the radarevery sec, i have been surprised in secluded places, from lok to tatooine. so if you stay at least more than 200m from most targets they wont notice you. also once you get their name you can just do /ex (name) from that range and observe what they are doing. im not sure if you can /tar from that range to know what their ham looks like but you can /ex if you wanna spy.
Nathanielstarr
Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:49 pm
#78






Darka-ce wrote:




Nathanielstarr wrote:





Darka-ce wrote:





AD_Maj wrote:

Ok you guys arent hearing me.



Thats good and all but why do the jedi have to see you??



If you HAVE to be so close to a jedi to where they see you, pick up rifles for cover, or better yet invest some points in the cover line.



I try really really hard to not let jedi see me so I have the element of surprise. If you are standing close to them hunting krayts, im pretty damn sure they are gonna examine you and see see " Has mastered the bounty hunter profession. "









Amen brother,

You have to be in visual range for a Jedi to get a /duel on you. If you've been spotted at that range, then sorry sparky, you've already lost the element of suprise. Yes, I can understand the frustration if you are trying to play it cool, blend in (also meaning not wearing your MBH or Combat Medic tag) so you can catch your mark unwares. But it takes more skill than that. I see so many dumb mistakes by BHs. You walk around in RIS or COMP. You carry a scatter pistol or LLC. You actually WEAR YOUR TAG....DUH. You don't make your character non-searchable. Believe me when I tell you all this. If a Jedi has targeted you for a duel, he knew you were a BH to begin with. The trick is to slip in and not have them do this. At least right now, you have some "grading system" to test your sneakiness. Call it a pass/fail. If you can slip up to attack range to a Jedi and he doesn't /duel you, you're doing it properly. If he does... *buzz... you're out, you messed up somewhere.

Stop trying to dumb down the game and smarten your play-style instead.




Only you jedi are saying this crap....Master Force Weilder...figures. Master Exploit Weilder








And when did you respec your BH friend? Skippy, I've been MBH since Pub 6. Killed more than my share of Jedi who, had 85% saber block, had buffs, dealt "Saber damage" which I had zero resists against, could run and hide in their house DURING the fight, could have a posee' escort them around AND attack me, could have other Jedi heal and transfer force to them during a fight, so yeah...uh..been there done that. Come to me when you can say the same.

As for Master Exploit Wielder? Interesting, had your azz handed to you lately by a Master Powers have you? Otherwise, step off and move along.




I was killing jedi when you had to fight all their friends while the jedi themselves pulled a feign death and you only got 15k a pop...


and you went to the other side....freaking traitor


You couldn't hack it when publish 20 hit I'm guessing.


I'm one of the most known hunters on my server....Jedi that go BH and want to hunt jedi come to me to find out how....but yeah I'm going to complain about an exploit being used against us that isn't getting fixed. So go back to your own forum and go whine about your pearl drops!
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