Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: FEEDBACK: Jedi Missions No Longer Showing Player Name, or Bounty Payout
Vlamr
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:03 pm
#66
This is just my opinion but I think it is a terrible idea. I have many reasons. I think all of them have already been voiced here in the forums.
I dont mind taking away the names as long as you replace them with some sort of Player ID that is targetable(a number or something that we can still do a /target on). Of course this in itself prevents BH players from going after Showboating Jedi in front of starports and other places. This would basically give free reign for Jedi to use their skills in the open any time they wanted without regard for being hunted. This has already been stated here in the formus.
I dont mind taking away the names as long as you replace them with some sort of Player ID that is targetable(a number or something that we can still do a /target on). Of course this in itself prevents BH players from going after Showboating Jedi in front of starports and other places. This would basically give free reign for Jedi to use their skills in the open any time they wanted without regard for being hunted. This has already been stated here in the formus.
Tamianx
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:07 pm
#67
Vlamr wrote:
This is just my opinion but I think it is a terrible idea. I have many reasons. I think all of them have already been voiced here in the forums.
I dont mind taking away the names as long as you replace them with some sort of Player ID that is targetable(a number or something that we can still do a /target on). Of course this in itself prevents BH players from going after Showboating Jedi in front of starports and other places. This would basically give free reign for Jedi to use their skills in the open any time they wanted without regard for being hunted. This has already been stated here in the formus.
Personally I thin whoever posted the idea about NPC Imp ST (high level) comming down in significiant force to deal with those Jedi showboating had an excellent idea ... there no reason for it to be occuring and an ideal solution to the problem. Im also sure that BH's will receive the name downstream in the process (post accept/spynet op) so the vocal nature happening right now is pretty mute. Call me optimisitic but from several posts being made that seemed to come through clear.
JarekTalram
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:08 pm
#68
Reduce TEF timer to 2.5 minutes.
Combat between a bounty hunter and a Jedi for which the bounty hunter has a bounty mission will result in a "bounty hunter TEF". No other TEF (such as factional TEF, for example) is applied. The "bounty hunter TEF" will prevent both the bounty hunter and Jedi from entering player structures, and will eject the player from a player structure if the TEF is received while the player is in the player structure.
Guild war pvp no longer results in a TEF, unless the combatants are a bounty hunter and a Jedi for which the bounty hunter has a bounty mission, in which case it will result in a "bounty hunter TEF".
Opposing factional TEF and "bounty hunter TEF" are applied to both combatants as soon as any of the combatants attacks.
This is great above is great. No more hiding in building.
The no value, no player name thing is probably a good thing as long as you get the name when you visit the informant. I like that they list the faction so I can choose only dark jedi.
MBH/MRM/P0003
Combat between a bounty hunter and a Jedi for which the bounty hunter has a bounty mission will result in a "bounty hunter TEF". No other TEF (such as factional TEF, for example) is applied. The "bounty hunter TEF" will prevent both the bounty hunter and Jedi from entering player structures, and will eject the player from a player structure if the TEF is received while the player is in the player structure.
Guild war pvp no longer results in a TEF, unless the combatants are a bounty hunter and a Jedi for which the bounty hunter has a bounty mission, in which case it will result in a "bounty hunter TEF".
Opposing factional TEF and "bounty hunter TEF" are applied to both combatants as soon as any of the combatants attacks.
This is great above is great. No more hiding in building.
The no value, no player name thing is probably a good thing as long as you get the name when you visit the informant. I like that they list the faction so I can choose only dark jedi.
MBH/MRM/P0003
Cloake
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:10 pm
#69
If you go with the idea of the High lvl NPC imp st showing up for those showboaters better make sure they dont give xp and or drop loot or i could see groups of jedi just showboating for loot/farming.
Tamianx
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:12 pm
#70
Cloake wrote:
If you go with the idea of the High lvl NPC imp st showing up for those showboaters better make sure they dont give xp and or drop loot or i could see groups of jedi just showboating for loot/farming.
Could be done to work like BH TEF .. only attackable by the Jedi they are after. There are ways to make it effective and painful ... let them give xp loss as well. Not the ideal situation, but a method to make Jedi think about being visible.
Issik
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:14 pm
#71
I'm Done with BH the day this goes live.
I've hunted hundreds of Jedi, only to see it make zero dents in their leveling. The BH system was supposed to be to slow down a jedi's progress, but not anymore. I've been a BH for over a year, and now I'm done.
I've hunted hundreds of Jedi, only to see it make zero dents in their leveling. The BH system was supposed to be to slow down a jedi's progress, but not anymore. I've been a BH for over a year, and now I'm done.
Cloake
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:15 pm
#72
Tho Tamianx, it'll hurt jedi so i'm sure it'll never happen. They are totally going towards the idea that Jedi should be the norm. SOE wants to show them off and doesn't want them to hide. The more jedi they see the better I guess. Oh well.
Khendra
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:15 pm
#73
I know its unrealistic to compare this game to real life situations. But imagine trying to collect a real life bounty on someone using the idea from the original poster..
Person. "excuse me mr Bh, I need someone off'd"
Bh. "whats his name?"
Person. "I dont know"
Bh. "where is he?"
Person. "I dont know"
Bh. "is he armed and dangerous?"
Person. "I dont know"
Bh. "well is he available"
Person. "well yeah....."
Bh. "how much are you paying me?"
Person. "I'll tell you after you kill him"
Bh. "..............................................................................................................................................."
Jaded_Lady
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:16 pm
#74
"Not a single reply to my post or to any other post that is constructive if a little heated.
Instead we have what we always have:
Jedi who post here for flames. This has come to be expected but worst of allare theBHs who rise to it."
I find this offensive... go look at the Jedi forums when upset arises over changes..nine times out of ten there is a response there by BHs calling us whiners etc. So you know what.. whats good for the goose is good for the gander as I was always told growing up
BTW how does it feel to have someone's suggestions who isn't a full time BH actually listened to by DEVs and implemented? I find it refreshing to finally see that what comes around goes around to all the whiners out there whether they be BHs or Jedi honestly.
I am also offended by the commentary on only reason a person with a Jedi would have a MBH would be to farm frs.. perhaps others intend to do that but not all of us.. my thoughts in having a MBH is that if you know how your opponent functions you are better equipped in dealing with them.
You know what whining hasn't done any of us any good, how about we just work at being the best at whatever template we become in the end here
*Oh and threatening to quit didn't get the countless Jedi that have left the game anywhere so might as well can that response in all honesty*
Message Edited by Jaded_Lady on 07-05-2005 04:18 PM
AllHandlestaken
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:18 pm
#75
I will quit the game if this happens.. BH is the only fun thing in this game currently and doing this will make BHing nearly impossible while every Jedi will be in Kash afk grinding with nothing to stop them. I guess it is bye SWG once again /sigh.
fishbrains
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:19 pm
#76
It means jedi will get attacked less. It's not so much a nerf to BH as it is a boost to jedi. Jedi get hunted less = more jedi leveling faster...and that IMO = crap
D67
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:21 pm
#77
May as well hang up all raned weaopns
They are just grinding tools now
No reason to have any other profession other than Jedi now
Congrats SOE, You took a diverse intresting and balancable game with wonderful variety
And turned it into KOTOR online.
This is BS
Whats to be done about Trail AFKs or Theed Showoffs now?
Whats to be done about Kashyyyk at all?
SOE needs to just quit pretending and make Jedi the ONLY Starter Profession and be done with it!
They are just grinding tools now
No reason to have any other profession other than Jedi now
Congrats SOE, You took a diverse intresting and balancable game with wonderful variety
And turned it into KOTOR online.
This is BS
Whats to be done about Trail AFKs or Theed Showoffs now?
Whats to be done about Kashyyyk at all?
SOE needs to just quit pretending and make Jedi the ONLY Starter Profession and be done with it!
Darka-ce
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:23 pm
#78
Horrible idea inasmuch as without any indication of "whom" you are hunting, how can a team of BH's hope to ever take the same mission? It rather defeats the whole group dynamic. Moreover, the main issues have yet to be addressed. Missions displaying off line Jedi, no faction filters, LOS issues on the Ryatt trails, these issues are certainly more important to the BH community than names on terms. It seems clear that this latest crap (unless there is something else used to specify a mission name)is nothing more than another step by SOE to protect their beloved Jedi by making it virtually impossible for multiple BHs to take the same mission.
Message Edited by Darka-ce on 07-05-2005 04:33 PM