Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: XP Nerf makes me want to kill Jedi again.
GunganAssassin wrote:
Is that exp nerf for everybody? cuz if it is....might b funny for u, but im still grinding carbines/ BH, and its alredy hard with the free time i have from work/ family.
i hope its a bug, and i hope it gets fixed fast. i have more to do than spend 3 hours playing to get a level 2 elite box.
Its a global XP Nerf for ALL professions in a group!
HeadRoll wrote:
lol, lTlwIsTelDl is from the Starsider galaxy. Probably the most whiny Board jedi group of all the servers combined.. I think it's the official candyland server for Jedi. these guys alwaysstart a new topic there aboutthe sameBH who trashtalks and kills them AFK!,
whitethunder wrote:
lTlwIsTelDl wrote:
no offense and all but hunting a jedi right now would just prove how much of a d*ck you are.
no it proves that BH are ruthless, savage beings
Particularly when you leap from the phrase "organic system" to the conclusion that bounty hunters were part of this design intent. The only thing that phrase has to do with bounty hunters is that griefers who enjoy gaining at the expense of others are a type of fungus.
grayoberon wrote:
Keito, I'm not sure how you think taking ten percent of a two-year-old document, most of which never was implemented and surely isn't in place now, demonstrates anything but your capacity for tendentious arguments.
Particularly when you leap from the phrase "organic system" to the conclusion that bounty hunters were part of this design intent. The only thing that phrase has to do with bounty hunters is that griefers who enjoy gaining at the expense of others are a type of fungus.
I've been here since day one of release. Originally i was a Master Ranger, a profession that still isn't worth the skillpoints, all because of the focus of Jedi. A profession that was never intended to become common, or the main drive of this game. My motivations and desires are far less selfish than the tripe Jedi spew forth on these forums, most of whom have been playing this game far less time than I.
Do you know what organic means? Simply put it means and implies that the players, human beings behind the keyboards, would control the Jedi population and advancement,
You are trying to imply that performing our intended function is greifing. My point was that Jedi was never intended to be easy or without peril, which is exactly what you desire. It isn't personal, I nor other bounty hunters here know you or have a personal vendetta against you or others that play Jedi. Becoming and Advancing a Jedi was to be HARD, so HARD most would give up. It was never intended to be a commonly played profession. A profession we see now showing their sabres off at starports in plain view, a profession that obviously doesn't really worry about us bounty hunters. Want a real challenge?, try being the underdog taking on an alpha class profession, greifing my foot. You call us bottom feeders yet most Jedi live to humilate normal professions in the GCW. And people that play Jedi wonder why the majority of normals never ever go overt.
I guess you think the xp loss you may incur in PVP, something you won't have alot of choice about once the FRS is reactivated, is greifing as well.
All of the document was implemented and live at one point, you sir are wrong. But i guess you wouldnt know that being you werent even playing in 2003.
Message Edited by Keito_Temreh on 08-18-2005 04:27 AM
Dlek_Krego wrote:
Spookibus wrote:
FalconisDor wrote:
As a Full Temp Jedi, and a BH alt, I have to say that hunting any player Jedi until this exp thing is worked out would be quite s**tty.
Four words for our Padawan friends:
STAY
OFF
THE
TERMS!
pffft... I intend on MAXXING the crap out of my viz, then using as much time as I can online doing NOTHING but crafting some crystal packs for practice in the basement of my workshop...
QFE ill be doing this toon. ill sit right on the door too. woot
Jarryd999 wrote:
lTlwIsTelDl wrote:
no offense and all but hunting a jedi right now would just prove how much of a d*ck you are.
then what the hell is the point of bein a bh?
Hmm, BH's hunt for the cash not the idea of causing suffering on anothers part. How many BH's have simply stated "It's not personal its just a job." Do it for the cash not the grief. Be professional, after all it is a profession. You're hunting down a fugative.
Ramona_Garcia wrote:
Anyone calling the Starsider server a "noob" server needs some reality check. We have the best space pvp scene of all the servers, with organised mass battles each week, and at least a decent if not great ground pvp scene - a significant part of both (the main part in space) are roleplayers.
Then add to that dedicated roleplayers holding all kind of events, from imperial conferences to restaurant cruises to GCW plots, and you get one of the best servers to play on.
Edit: But yes, on the forums we are THE drama server - pvp and roleplayers alike.
Message Edited by Ramona_Garcia on 08-18-2005 09:47 AM
One of my toons ison SS. Theserver overall is cool I must say. But I still stand by my words. The Jedi population, particularly the Forum Board Jedi are nothing more then carebears who are quit to beetch, flame any BH who dares to trashtalk or kill them while they are AFK. I think out of the several server boards I visit, the Starsider board is the worst. that is why you have been officially nominated as the Jedi Carebear server. Congratulations!
Keito_Temreh wrote:
I've been here since day one of release. Originally i was a Master Ranger, a profession that still isn't worth the skillpoints, all because of the focus of Jedi. A profession that was never intended to become common, or the main drive of this game. My motivations and desires are far less selfish than the tripe Jedi spew forth on these forums, most of whom have been playing this game far less time than I.Do you know what organic means? Simply put it means and implies that the players, human beings behind the keyboards, would control the Jedi population and advancement,
You are trying to imply that performing our intended function is greifing. My point was that Jedi was never intended to be easy or without peril, which is exactly what you desire. It isn't personal, I nor other bounty hunters here know you or have a personal vendetta against you or others that play Jedi. Becoming and Advancing a Jedi was to be HARD, so HARD most would give up. It was never intended to be a commonly played profession. A profession we see now showing their sabres off at starports in plain view, a profession that obviously doesn't really worry about us bounty hunters. Want a real challenge?, try being the underdog taking on an alpha class profession, greifing my foot. You call us bottom feeders yet most Jedi live to humilate normal professions in the GCW. And people that play Jedi wonder why the majority of normals never ever go overt.
I guess you think the xp loss you may incur in PVP, something you won't have alot of choice about once the FRS is reactivated, is greifing as well.
All of the document was implemented and live at one point, you sir are wrong. But i guess you wouldnt know that being you werent even playing in 2003.
Message Edited by Keito_Temreh on 08-18-2005 04:27 AM
QFE. Couldn't have sait it better myself.
Neutral Imperial Agent
>> Jedi was never intended to be easy or without peril
Message Edited by Aglardae on 08-18-2005 07:30 AM
Sirisandir wrote:
hunting jedi just to cause xp loss is pathetic and disgusting.
Not half as disgusting as saber duels in starports.
Shaan'ti Hokai (Kauri) Will I be able to play a Jedi?
Potentially. For those who succeed in opening the Force Sensitive slot, the journey to become a Jedi will be very difficult and rewarding. It may be months before the first Jedi appears in a given galaxy.
How do Jedi work?
Your main character does not become a Jedi. Rather, the actions of your main character can unlock an additional character slot which is Force Sensitive. Characters created in this additional slot can then advance through the Jedi skills (and only Jedi skill). Each player account allows for only one potential Jedi slot and the mysterious method to unlock it won't be the same for every player.
How are you going to keep Jedi rare?
Jedi characters suffer a form of permadeath. You do not lose the Jedi character, but all of your skills are deleted. In order to compensate for deaths that are completely out of control of the player (such as ones caused by network latency) each Jedi will be able to die a couple times before skill loss. The life of a Jedi is extraordinarily difficult, and successfully making it all the way to Jedi Master should be considered the most difficult challenge in the game.
^^ the above never ever ever should have changed, notice the words most difficult and challenge, hardly applicable to today's jedi grind.
Will there be a numerical limit on the number of Jedi allowed on each server?
No. We're not using artificial means such as quotas or caps to limit the Jedi population. We're designing an organic system that will allow the Jedi population to fluctuate over time.
Read the above, this was where bounty hunters came in.
Will only the extremely lucky or hardcore players get to play Jedi?
Jedi status is not determined based on "luck." However, Jedi is considered an advanced objective to achieve within the game. Casual and hardcore players alike can reach this objective because the path is different foreach player. However, it might take a casual player considerably longer to unlock a Force Sensitive character slot.
Is it possible for other species besides humans to become Jedi?
Yes. Any player, regardless of character species, has the potential to become a Jedi.
Can I become Dark Jedi?
Yes. However, be warned that the life of a Dark Jedi will be very perilous....
Will I be able to choose to become a Dark Jedi from the start, or must they become Jedi then fall?
According to the continuity, most dark Jedi start off as Jedi and then "fall." In our game system, you have to become a Jedi first.
Can I become a Sith Lord in the game?
No, although players may someday be able to become Dark Jedi, they will not be able to become Sith Lords. The films explicitly state that there are only two Sith Lords at any given time, and the two during the time of Star Wars Galaxies have been clearly identified as the Emperor and Darth Vader.
Can I have a title like "Jedi Knight" or "Jedi Master"?
We've included Jedi titles, like "Jedi Knight" and "Jedi Master" in the game. Dark Jedi will likely have the same titles as the regular Jedi (Dark Jedi Knight, Dark Jedi Master).
Will you have the "Jedi Trials" in the game?
We have decided that in order to be more faithful to the time period of the game, we willnot to put in official "Jedi Trials." Player Jedi Masters may come up with their own requirements forthose they choose to apprentice, however we feel the true "trial" will just be surviving.
Read the above, if you think a life without peril is very Jedi-ish you should quit now. BHs coming after you are part of your trials as a Jedi. Survive us and you deserve your power, do not and you deserve skill loss. Jedi is survival of the fittest if you are not you will perish. Deservedly so.
How do you useForce powers?
Force powers function much like skills in Star Wars Galaxies; we're actually using the same basic set of rules for both systems. Like skills, Force powers are divided into several disciplines, allowing players to select specific powers and areas of focus.
If I am a Jedi with a lightsaber, will I be able to block blaster shots and perform other cool lightsaber tricks?
Lightsabers will have all the same capabilities as those seen in the film, but a lightsaber doesn't automatically confer special abilities to the wielder--a Jedi will still need the proper skills and training to master things like "blaster reflection."
Can I build my own lightsaber?
Yes, but we're following a few simple rules that have been established by the continuity of Star Wars, such as only Jedi can manufacture lightsabers. Building a lightsaber is difficult. Only Jedi can use lightsabers effectively.
How long will it take a Jedi to construct his or her lightsaber?
This will probably come down to balancing, with our starting duration based on the continuity. We don't want lightsabers to be really easy or quick to produce, but we also don't want it to take an inordinate amount of time. According to continuity, it took Luke quite some time to build his lightsaber on Tatooine and he "failed" many attempts. But, he was also working in a relative vacuum, without a Master and only Obi-Wan's journal to guide him.
Can I make a double-bladed lightsaber?
Learning how to build a double-bladed lightsaber will likely be more difficult than learning how to build a normal lightsaber. You will also probably need more components (additional crystals, for example). And, it may be more difficult to learn how to wield the weapon effectively, since so few Jedi have spent the time necessary to master the double-bladed lightsaber, and it is so rare during the original trilogy's time period.
Can lightsabers get old and "break"?
We will have item decay in the game, and this will affect lightsabers as well. However, a Jedi has the knowledge necessary to maintain a lightsaber, preventing such decay.
Can I choose what color my lightsaber will be?
We will offer multiple lightsaber colors.
As you can all see. the current situation with gajillions of jedi overrunning the entire game was never intended nor was it intended for every Jedi to be able to actually complete his template or become FRS ranked, in fact they intended for most to give up and go back to their normal character.
This is why Bounty Hunters exist, that is what we are here to do, make you give up, the devs very much expected that only the very determined would become jedi knights and even fewer to become masters. And keep in mind they wanted even lowly padawans to be rare enough that one would rarely be seen, let alone higher ranked more skilled jedi. I'd say they have a bit more work to do to accomplish that goal. This xp nerf was a pretty good start in that direction, however i think they went overboard applying it to everybody. I am quite sure they could have coded it to reduce xp jedi earned, even increase the conversion rates for the FS grind but punishing the general populace because there are too many Jedi was a bit much.
With that being said i am looking forward to the many incomplete jedi templates that will surely become more common on the terminals over the next couple of months.
Message Edited by Keito_Temreh on 08-18-2005 07:36 PM