Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: XP Nerf makes me want to kill Jedi again.
Dlek_Krego
Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:55 pm
#53
aekeem wrote:
Dlek_Krego wrote:
aekeem wrote:
Dlek_Krego wrote:
aekeem wrote:
to dlek_krego, ...... unfortunately there is a tiny bit of skill involved in that so you probably tried it once and got mad because you had spent all your time killing mindless npcs instead of gaining skill playing against opponents who move and think.
I am so glad that you have taken the time to actually get to know me in game before making such assumptions of me.
I have NEVER liked PvP in the game, as it is not my playstyle. I have been a finished temp for almost 2 months, and I have PvP'ed maybe twice in that whole time, and one of those times was to defend our city's bases.
so you don't like pvp and you don't like grinding, yet you did nothing in game but grind for 7 months, then decided grinding was boring, so you ground out a jedi template, then did what exactly? fought some uber krayts and gorax? have you looked in to picking up maybe a console rpg(those at least have a story and most have a defined end point)?
Nope. Why? Because I for one feel it is still fun to ROLE-PLAY in a mmoRPg... Not everyone is in this game to be an "uber 1337 PvP pxnzor dood!"
Who are you to dicide how I play my game, or how my playstyle should be?
but if you're roleplaying anyways why not just be a fencer? i mean why waste a couple weeks grinding a jedi template if you're just roleplaying anyways? i mean unless you were jealous of the people who could destroy you in pvp then why not just save the time you would have wasted grinding your jedi toon and spend it all pretending you are holding a lightsaber when really its just a stun baton. i always hear this excuse "i became a jedi to roleplay! omg i hate pvp why should i be forced to fight someone who i'm not guaranteed to beat?!" i've never understood why if you're pretending anyways, why not pretend you're holding a lightsaber and thus avoid pvp and being hunted altogether(by simply playing a fencer)?
Again, who are you to tell me how to play?
I pay my account fees, not you. If I wish to play a Jedi character, it is my choice, not yours. If I wish to not engage a BH, that too is my choice, not yours.
As for you "jealous" comment... get over yourself. No I was not jealous, because even BEFORE getting my Jedi, I never PvP'ed... Why does it have to be that every HAS to have gotten Jedi just to be "uber 1337 PvP doodz?" Why can you not see that for some of us, we want to play the Jedi character because WE LIKE THE JEDI CHARACTER?
So you can stop with your little false assumptions.
aekeem
Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:03 pm
#54
Dlek_Krego wrote:
Again, who are you to tell me how to play?
I pay my account fees, not you. If I wish to play a Jedi character, it is my choice, not yours. If I wish to not engage a BH, that too is my choice, not yours.
As for you "jealous" comment... get over yourself. No I was not jealous, because even BEFORE getting my Jedi, I never PvP'ed... Why does it have to be that every HAS to have gotten Jedi just to be "uber 1337 PvP doodz?" Why can you not see that for some of us, we want to play the Jedi character because WE LIKE THE JEDI CHARACTER?
So you can stop with your little false assumptions.
i'm not telling you how to play, i'm suggesting a method for you to save some time and not have to grind out a jedi template, do roleplayers just not have any imagination? as for your "get over yourself" comment..... i never claimed to be better than you, i just pointed out a time-saving alternative for people who don't like pvp and would rather roleplay than test their skill in a game.
lTlwIsTelDl
Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:28 pm
#55
like i said you don't know me man so stop trying to flame me. you started it and now you are blaming me. ask anyone that knows me ig i am a very passive person and i don't whine about anything. for one i am not crying i couldn't care less it just seems like aB|tch to have to grind it back. and i'm not a had been i have a bh and play him still.
yatyas91 wrote:
that's big words comin from some guy from a noob server buddy i have had a bh for a long time so s.t.f.u
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Noob server? Who is the jedi crying on this forum? I don't care if you had been a bh...and that is what you are tome.. a had been.
LikeTlwIsTelDl here, some people who play jedi are immature little idiots who are not very socially skilled and spew every insult they didn't get a chance to do in school cause it would have been double the wedgies and swirlies they were already getting when they feel they have been wronged by the system, again.
GreatWarrior
Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:30 pm
#56
I'm tired of Jedi complaining about xp loss and how bad BHs are for it. People can complain about BHs hunting to give Jedi XP loss but that is our role.. to control the Jedi population. That is why you lose xp when BHs death blow Jedi. It was done on purpose.. not for pvp.. not for money.. to control the population. Now I know about 2/3rds of this board is occupided by Jedi or alts of Jedi that are always posting trying to sway BH opinion so I honestly care less about Jedi opinion on this. The BH role is to control jedi, andyes these changeshave made it easier to do and yes BHs should take advantage of it. If we don't.. we get even more full template Jedi standing around our starports overt and camping them to he*l and back and pushing out content for those that don't wish to be a Jedi to play the game. Of course those people don't matter... we must bow to the Jedi and be content.
Now as an example on Eclipse.. almost all the PvP is Jedi based.. it's killed soldier combat almost completely. Before the CU there was one or two jedi per 10-20regular combatplayers. Nowthere is one or two regular combat players for every 10-20 Jedi. If people think its bad now.. it will get worse. There are only two ways to solve the problem.. 1) Killing Jedi off so they are slower at becoming full template gank squads or 2) not doing anything about Jedi so they just crowd the system and get bored and quit.. or as some have said "die from boredom". Currently I'm retired from PvP BH hunting to do other things and allowing number 2 to happen to see how it goes but I may every well go back to choice one to help control the population again.
RebsBeware
Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:40 pm
#57
GreatWarrior wrote:
I'm tired of Jedi complaining about xp loss and how bad BHs are for it. People can complain about BHs hunting to give Jedi XP loss but that is our role.. to control the Jedi population. That is why you lose xp when BHs death blow Jedi. It was done on purpose.. not for pvp.. not for money.. to control the population. Now I know about 2/3rds of this board is occupided by Jedi or alts of Jedi that are always posting trying to sway BH opinion so I honestly care less about Jedi opinion on this. The BH role is to control jedi, andyes these changeshave made it easier to do and yes BHs should take advantage of it. If we don't.. we get even more full template Jedi standing around our starports overt and camping them to he*l and back and pushing out content for those that don't wish to be a Jedi to play the game. Of course those people don't matter... we must bow to the Jedi and be content.
Now as an example on Eclipse.. almost all the PvP is Jedi based.. it's killed soldier combat almost completely. Before the CU there was one or two jedi per 10-20regular combatplayers. Nowthere is one or two regular combat players for every 10-20 Jedi. If people think its bad now.. it will get worse. There are only two ways to solve the problem.. 1) Killing Jedi off so they are slower at becoming full template gank squads or 2) not doing anything about Jedi so they just crowd the system and get bored and quit.. or as some have said "die from boredom". Currently I'm retired from PvP BH hunting to do other things and allowing number 2 to happen to see how it goes but I may every well go back to choice one to help control the population again.
you cant control anything - they are already unlocked if you can hunt them.
pvp now is less jedi orientated than it was just before the cu on my server. the removal of insane saber block has made the rifleman the main power in pvp now. its amazing how fast a good group of rifles with a smuggler/commando for area root can chop down a group of jedi if they are all co-ordinated on teamsspeak. suggest smuggler/commando to your pvpers and then laugh at an area concussion that leaves 10 out of a group of 12 stood there helpless for 45 secs while you kill their mates one by one. area roots are amusing too. msmug/mcomm, pistols 0003 = fun.
Orthell
Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:45 pm
#58
REDLION78 wrote:Now...That the XP will be harder to get back I feel the need to visit the terms again. 100K in XP loss is not going to be easy to recover from. This makes death meaningful again...THANKS Devs, I feel better now. Keep up the good work guys!
100k XP? Try 450k XP.
Orthell
Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:46 pm
#59
Sirisandir wrote:hunting jedi just to cause xp loss is pathetic and disgusting.
I know, it's only purpose is to ruin somebody else's fun. It needs to be adjusted.
Crowsfool
Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:17 pm
#60
REDLION78 wrote:Now...That the XP will be harder to get back I feel the need to visit the terms again. 100K in XP loss is not going to be easy to recover from. This makes death meaningful again...THANKS Devs, I feel better now. Keep up the good work guys!
I actually now want to start killing Jedi not because it makes their death more meaningful (which means nothing to me) but because it means my Jedi wannabe, who had 2 phases to go, has little chance of ever becoming a Jedi.
So, I am taking it out on everyone who IS a Jedi. Thankfully, I have 2 MBH's, and they are both angry.
grayoberon
Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:18 pm
#61
xp loss was not put in game to control the jedi population. The difficult and mysterious path to becoming a jedi was supposed to do that--too bad it was neither as difficult or as mysterious as it needed to be.
Please don't take this as a suggestion that any of the griefing bat rastards reading this might *surprise! shock! dismay!* pursue an exploit, but absent a major penalty to one side or the other, a bh and a jedi could pair up for major profit. Unfortunately for the short-sighted interns doing their senior theses on game design that SOE used to prevent this, somehow all the risk was put on one side of that equation and all the reward on the other.
I would also observe that the individuals suggesting that a "bh" taking joy in the increase in that pain are not commenting on the role-playing skills or the bh's ability to demonstrate an impressive command of the game. They (and I) are suggesting that one who takes joy in seeing the anguish of another is sick, that you may need therapy as a seriously disturbed human being, and we are saddened that you don't see this. Please wear a distinctive t-shirt proclaiming your philosophy so we may cross the street if we see you approaching in rl, and ensure our daughters do not date you.
*a light bulb blinks on*
Ah! Already no daughter will associate with you! Hence the anti-social behavior. Now I understand. You have my full sympathy.
Please don't take this as a suggestion that any of the griefing bat rastards reading this might *surprise! shock! dismay!* pursue an exploit, but absent a major penalty to one side or the other, a bh and a jedi could pair up for major profit. Unfortunately for the short-sighted interns doing their senior theses on game design that SOE used to prevent this, somehow all the risk was put on one side of that equation and all the reward on the other.
I would also observe that the individuals suggesting that a "bh" taking joy in the increase in that pain are not commenting on the role-playing skills or the bh's ability to demonstrate an impressive command of the game. They (and I) are suggesting that one who takes joy in seeing the anguish of another is sick, that you may need therapy as a seriously disturbed human being, and we are saddened that you don't see this. Please wear a distinctive t-shirt proclaiming your philosophy so we may cross the street if we see you approaching in rl, and ensure our daughters do not date you.
*a light bulb blinks on*
Ah! Already no daughter will associate with you! Hence the anti-social behavior. Now I understand. You have my full sympathy.
Grunzer
Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:46 pm
#62
Honestly this XP nerf effects all of us, not just Jedi. And Honestly, Tiggs has tried to lay the blame on Jedi because SOE wants us to continue squabbling with each other. But Jedi aren't the ones responsible.
SOE is responsible.
And I refuse to further do their dirty work for them by hunting Jedi after this patch.
It is my hope now that Jedi will clog every starport, and every NPC city with their presense. Screw SOE and Screw Lucas Arts.
Message Edited by Grunzer on 08-17-2005 10:47 PM
thepulse
Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:53 pm
#63
every mutt has its day or i should say even a dogs ass get a day in the sun from time to time.... enjoy to hurt jedi now and just wait one of these days premies or better will be dropping and sabers dps and overall dmg will increase and then we will read these once joyfull forums once agian crying about how its no fair jedi are too strong........... so go on and bring it!!!!!!!
while alll the current sabers of new jedi are crap and now the xp is even slower...
hunting jedi is hunting a jedi thats it its a pvp action and is fun but doing it just to hurt someone is a pretty retarded thing to do and as an ex BH myself i really only did it a few times for revenge mostly did itcause i was bored and jedi is fun to hunt but never did it at random to hurt ones xp..... and your fooling yourself into thinking you control a jedi pop once a jedi always a jedi and doesnt matter if your +4mill xp or - 10 mill still a jedi
Message Edited by thepulse on 08-17-2005 10:59 PM
HeadRoll
Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:06 pm
#64
REDLION78 wrote:
Now...
That the XP will be harder to get back I feel the need to visit the terms again. 100K in XP loss is not going to be easy to recover from. This makes death meaningful again...THANKS Devs, I feel better now. Keep up the good work guys!
So whats the point of sharing it here my brutha, Go do it !!, I am about to go on a pc jedi hunting spree myself
Keito_Temreh
Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:54 pm
#65
Orthell wrote:
Sirisandir wrote:
hunting jedi just to cause xp loss is pathetic and disgusting.
I know, it's only purpose is to ruin somebody else's fun. It needs to be adjusted.
LOL! Most of you Jedi really are noobies, the purpose to us hunting you and killing you is to lessen the number of full template FRS ranked jedi. PERIOD. See the devs dont care how many of you there are, just how many POWERFUL ones there are. They DO NOT want a gazillion full template FRS ranked jedi running around the game, got that? That is why BHs hunt you and kill you and take your precious xp away.