Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: BH Loot and Complaints
Personally I see no problem with this as a BH/Jedi.
I did 4 BH missiosn tonight.. 1 BH Helmet schematic, a brown color crystal, mando intaframe, and then of course about 4 sachtels and two really bad Heavy Lightning Rifles... Only thing worth keeping in that was the Mando and then BH schem....
Now.. My guildee on the otherhand has gotten two clear crystals and about 3 illegal core boosters... Of course.. he was lucky and got something like 4 clear crystals from BH missions before this came about and before the CU even.... He's too darn a lucky looter.... Because he also got a +6 Melee Speed and +4 Fire resistance with something else tonigh too... And I just keep getting bad stuff....
ob-gli wrote:
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However, if people are running BH missions for HOURS at end, the law of averages will catch up and if anything is droppable, it will drop. I do not think that is bad considering the amount of time and effort involved. You got a much better return on your investment of time, and effort hunting Krayts or Nightsisters or Acklayprior to CU. You still do hunting DJK, DJM, or Arrukans missions on Talus they are the only other things droping loot thats any good with maybe a few others also...fix Krayt loot and the Jedi will stop complaning IMO... "
The drop rate cannot be compared ..sadly... out of everyone one of these npc bh missions , they all dropped atleast 1 thing worth keeping.
auakauns and djm consistantly drop items that instantly get deleted and serve absolutely no purpose in game what-so-ever, or in theaukaun missioncase, they drop nothing 9 out of 10 times...
What is worth keeping about a jar of bugs and a cargo pocket? elite 36k ham
Tanks wrote:
Posted from my reply to another thread.
It is interesting that most people beleive that this is a zero sum game. A lot of the posts I have seen are "BHs got nice loot, it should either be nerfed or everyone should have it".
Excuse me, but prior to CU BHs could not solo Nightsisters, or Gorax, or Krayts or Acklayfor loot.A lot of you other combat professions could do that.
I did not hear crafters complain that a Rifleman/TKM (or other templates)was able to loot any high level mob in the game prior to CU. Now that the BH NPC marks are worth doing, and loot is dropping I do not understand the complaints.
Heck, I saw complaints even on the Jedi forums. They seem to forget that they get a second character slot on the same server. Should we lobby for everyone to get that or have it removed? Fencers and Swordsman would love to have access to Lightsabers as well..
Also, a lot of the posts I have seen here give the impression that the drops are uber on a regular basis. I have run about 20 missions so far (about 5 hours). All I have gotten were Smuggler slicing components and a few BH armor schems. I have yet to loot ANY CAs.
However, if people are running BH missions for HOURS at end, the law of averages will catch up and if anything is droppable, it will drop. I do not think that is bad considering the amount of time and effort involved. You got a much better return on your investment of time, and effort hunting Krayts or Nightsisters or Acklayprior to CU.
No complaints here.
Tanks,
Honestly, some people aren't happy unless they are complaining. To Heck with them, and folks enjoy it, I know I have been. A friend and I have been running these mission for the past two days and its themost fun we've had in a couple of months. We are both Jedi, although neither of the characters are our unlock alts they have seen the majority of the play time since the introduction of this system. Those that wish to do these missions well its simple go pick up novice BH and get to it. It's as simple as that. They need to get over it and grind a toon to get the ability.
HiJiiNks wrote:
your wrong Tanks
Before the CU a BH can solo a NS elder i did it
all you need was novice comando for the luncher pistols and smuggler FD
and at that time it was a long run around dath and when the elder was getting the best of you FD wait tell she walk away 20m stand up and start shootingMessage Edited by HiJiiNks on 08-07-2005 06:05 PM
Message Edited by HiJiiNks on 08-07-2005 06:08 PM
Does anyone else see the humor in this? A BH could do it as long as they had Novice Smuggler....LMAO!
Out of 20-25 missions I looted 1 fantastic CA, 2 craps SEAs, 4 BH schemes and a pleathora of smuggler crap. It seems right on the money, I would just make surethat mark difficultydictates the probability ofhigh end loot drops.
It's cool to get something reallynice from a moderately challenging mark every once in a while.
Message Edited by Reyza on 08-08-2005 01:32 AM
xur-soma wrote:
Tanks wrote:
Posted from my reply to another thread.It is interesting that most people beleive that this is a zero sum game. A lot of the posts I have seen are "BHs got nice loot, it should either be nerfed or everyone should have it". - Most of the loot is for is smugglers or can be sold anyway so they will end up getting it oneway or another...I am not a big fan of BH armor just want to work on the mando so most if not all the loot I get is sold on the forms anyway,unless I can use it myself.Excuse me, but prior to CU BHs could not solo Nightsisters, or Gorax, or Krayts or Acklay for loot. A lot of you other combat professions could do that. Very true I picked up master Swordsman/bralwer pre-cu just to loot NS and Krayts.I did not hear crafters complain that a Rifleman/TKM (or other templates) was able to loot any high level mob in the game prior to CU. Now that the BH NPC marks are worth doing, and loot is dropping I do not understand the complaints. If they want it that bad go BHor buy it on the forms the loot is no better than other elite mobs, and other than BH schems you can get all the loot they drop from other NPC's or Space anyway.
Heck, I saw complaints even on the Jedi forums. They seem to forget that they get a second character slot on the same server. Should we lobby for everyone to get that or have it removed? Fencers and Swordsman would love to have access to Lightsabers as well.Also, a lot of the posts I have seen here give the impression that the drops are uber on a regular basis. I have run about 20 missions so far (about 5 hours). All I have gotten were Smuggler slicing components and a few BH armor schems. I have yet to loot ANY CAs. I have looted alot and I agree the best to things i got was a CA +10 rifle speed sold for 6mil, and a WS loot for guns sold for 12mil...2 nice loots out of about 40 NPC's over 2days I would say. Still pays better than hunting Jedi ( I loot for money so I dont need it but still kinda stupid IMO )
However, if people are running BH missions for HOURS at end, the law of averages will catch up and if anything is droppable, it will drop. I do not think that is bad considering the amount of time and effort involved. You got a much better return on your investment of time, and effort hunting Krayts or Nightsisters or Acklay prior to CU. You still do hunting DJK, DJM, or Arrukans missions on Talus they are the only other things droping loot thats any good with maybe a few others also...fix Krayt loot and the Jedi will stop complaning IMO...
As a player who loots alot, I would say MBH got a good sorce for money to pay for the ADK's,Guns, Armor,Food, and all the other stuff they need to hunt Jedi and thats a good thing... Its far from the best sorce of loot in the game though even in this broken loot system we got now!...
You see.. my char has been in existance since launch.. never been a crafter as I have no interest and grinding missions is slow money
I have NEVER seen more than 8 million on this account at any one time.. now if you.. getting 12 million.. 6 million.. in 2 days of looting probably solo.. thats just lame cause If I want those kinds of credits it would require me becoming a BH.. which I really dont want to do
So those of us that dont want to become a crafter/BH get shafted credit wise due to no other way to solo and get high end loot that fast
Message Edited by WNxSaKeN on 08-07-2005 11:14 PM
PyscoJuggalo wrote:
It has nothing to do with balance, the reason BH is getting nerf calls is because the arch-enemy of the BH is.........
The Nerfi.
.......
I will have to add that to my Dictionary of SWG terms, catch phrases and insults.
Nerfi
Noun
1) A jedi that crys when ever another profession gets a fix or change that makes their profession more attractive.
2) A jedi that crys when ever a non jedi can kill them using legitimate tactics(IE armor break resistance or using some Combat Medic skills)
See: Ebaydi
The Dark Ones
Noun
1) The Developers that bend to the will of the nerfi and other jedis that cry
See Nerfi
I agree to that to a point, I WAS able to solo a Juvie Krayt and that's about it, and some level 77-79 Nightsister Sentry and perhaps Rangers but I cannot take on more than one, the Gorax, Ackley and higher level Krayts are only imaginable. I can easily solo them with a TKM or a Jedi (even non-defender).
And as stated, since Jedi has a second slot, why not pick up investigation 3 or 4 on your toon and do the missions, from what I hear MBH isn't needed to get "boos" marks.
Vicci A'Tivo - Elder "in your face" Bounty HunterMost argument i read here is: Let the BH have fun that they can fight jedi AND be able to get some loot.
I think there is the main Problem. Other Profs are not that lucky (not only jedi) and can do good PvP and PvE and have fun.
Ask a Fencer if its fun for him to wait 20 min for the Krayt the respawm, kill him in the group and try to get 1/8 of the loot.
Ask a Jedi if its fun for him to spend 200 hours in gridding without any interesting missions or loot.
Is it realy that hard to understand that a TK also want to get good loot, have nice missions and get some new content? its as hard for him to fight a Nightsister elder to get loot as it is for you. so why dont the devs give him some mission NPCs that wait for him (no more lootfighting at good places) and is easyer to kill?
And why dont the devs make it easyer for rifleman to find a gorax with missions and give him the loot he needs?
Most profs dont have to luck to chose from PvE-Missions with good loot AND PvP. one profession is forced to have PvP while trying to get loot..... and that PvP is forced by the profession that has the best loot (missions)and PvP. Do you see some relations about that and the whining?
i bet every Polearm would be be happy when you alow him to get THAT good CAs from missions, even when the chances are 1:50... cause now its much more worth for him.
I would be happy when every Prof gets that kind of mission where they get that good loot. then i can buy the +15 CAs for 500k and Slices are for free.
but the agrument that you need the money for your Jedihunt.... hello? When a jedi would say that you would just say: no one forced you to be jedi. No one NEEDs PvE-content so that he can do his PvP-content......
xur-soma wrote:
Maybe on your serveri have madewell over 100million creditsoff selling loot and a good amount post-cu BH loot is good no question but you gota' pull numbers just like DJK,DJM or any other NPC that drops loot. I have done 40 missions and got 4 BH armor schems! thats a 4% (4 in 40 is 10%)chance of getting a schem, I got 1 CA from the 40 missions 1%(1 in 40 is 2.5%)drop rate and 1 uber WS loot for 1% (again 2.5%)... I know both sides here so I know what i am talking about this loot is good but you gota pull numbers just like anything else.
Tanks wrote:Posted from my reply to another thread.It is interesting that most people beleive that this is a zero sum game. A lot of the posts I have seen are "BHs got nice loot, it should either be nerfed or everyone should have it".Excuse me, but prior to CU BHs could not solo Nightsisters, or Gorax, or Krayts or Acklay for loot. A lot of you other combat professions could do that.I did not hear crafters complain that a Rifleman/TKM (or other templates) was able to loot any high level mob in the game prior to CU. Now that the BH NPC marks are worth doing, and loot is dropping I do not understand the complaints.Heck, I saw complaints even on the Jedi forums. They seem to forget that they get a second character slot on the same server. Should we lobby for everyone to get that or have it removed? Fencers and Swordsman would love to have access to Lightsabers as well.Also, a lot of the posts I have seen here give the impression that the drops are uber on a regular basis. I have run about 20 missions so far (about 5 hours). All I have gotten were Smuggler slicing components and a few BH armor schems. I have yet to loot ANY CAs.
However, if people are running BH missions for HOURS at end, the law of averages will catch up and if anything is droppable, it will drop. I do not think that is bad considering the amount of time and effort involved. You got a much better return on your investment of time, and effort hunting Krayts or Nightsisters or Acklay prior to CU.
I have no problem with the bh's having access to the high end loot, but to have total control over it is just plain unfair, remeber when people spawned djk/djm, and got the high end loot? It got nerfed. And you bring up pre-cu FYI the old system is over stop living in the past things have changed. Thats like me saying "Imperials used to be able to pull out as many atst's as they wanted rebels should be able to do this now."
auakauns and djm consistantly drop items that instantly get deleted and serve absolutely no purpose in game what-so-ever, or in theaukaun missioncase, they drop nothing 9 out of 10 times...