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Thread: Test Center Changes for Publish 19

zukem
Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:23 pm
#53

I just realized something that someone brought up. Here is a slight change to one of the fixes they made:




zukem wrote:



  • Force Sap - Lowered duration and debuff amount Made this kind of useless. debuff amount was already low, now it may be lower. + for bh.







  • Force Sap - Lowered duration and debuff amount This was my mistake. This is not a useless skill. This may become one of the most powerful skills a jedi has. Let me explain. Dizzy. stops action regen. BH then hits dizzy recover and dizzy is gone. Jedi saps a bh or a jedi. There is no cure for a sap by a bh. (Jedi I am not sure if cure states cures sap or not). So the lowering duration and buff amount is a good thing for bounty hunters. But it's still a powerful weapon for a jedi.



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    SamousNemo
    Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:37 pm
    #54






    Tanks wrote:





    SamousNemo wrote:





    Tanks wrote:


    • Changed Lightning Rifles movement modifier to emulate Rifles instead of commando weapons This will be significant once the Publish comes live

    Still curious how this will pan out considering they aren't CL 54. I'd absolutely love to see an LLC match at least an adv laser. Would be nice to see the ol' lightning bolts come out when my mark gets passed 50m.







    Hmmm, I wonder why I said that . I guess we'll have to wait for live.





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    SamousNemo
    Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:00 pm
    #55






    Caelrie wrote:

    I think you guys should be wary. If these changes mean that BHs start soloing full template paddies, either you will be nerfed or jedi will be boosted again.






    ...or they're getting ready for 1v1 hunts




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    OberonMyx
    Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:11 pm
    #56






    Tanks wrote:






    Warryyr wrote:



    MLS isn't the only one who has a KD attack.


    They just took the KD away from Improved Saber Throw.


    Sorry, I meant the RANGED KD when I was writing. I corrected the post.


    I fail to see why this was done, honestly. It kind of baffles me.


    I think it was done to add value to MLS, people were getting 0404LS and get 95% of the benefits of MLS.











    That is ridiculous--not your assumption, but the fact that they, rather than actually ADD to MLS (whose specials are overall weaker than the non mls specials) they take away from non regular LS to make MLS worth it. That is backasswards thinking, and not only that, they nerf the MLS skill too, as they take out the cone effect. "Lets make Master Lightsaber Worth it by taking out the cone effect and nerfing xxx4 saber...."



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    Caelrie
    Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:48 pm
    #57






    SamousNemo wrote:





    Caelrie wrote:

    I think you guys should be wary. If these changes mean that BHs start soloing full template paddies, either you will be nerfed or jedi will be boosted again.






    ...or they're getting ready for 1v1 hunts






    If they make BHs as strong as a full template Jedi, there won't BE any hunts.
    AcimEriga
    Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:04 pm
    #58

    Well, I see a great many jedi knights complaining that they cant remember the last time a BH came for them. This would seem to be a step in that direction. After all, what good is hunting a knight if you cant kill them, anyway? Sure, we can hunt in groups, but splitting 225k 3 ways, which is the minimum group accepted for a knight is far less than a 120k solo. Now, if they make it possible to kill knights 1 on 1, youd better believe that we will be going for the bigger payday. After all, we know we arent slowing anyone down, so why take a 56k paddy, when you can kill a 225k knight?


    I believe that there will be more knights seeing action, if they are brought down to a level that is soloable by a skilled BH, and that equation doesnt require a jedi player who doesnt know what the little icons are for.


    By all means, I do not want that victory cheapened by knights being dumbed down so that any person who can hit icons beats a knight, but I have been doing this for nearly a year, and I still dont feel confident in hunting a knight post-CU, since I know I will never outdamage the heals. Thus, I tend towards the 126k that Tanks worked out as a good match for a CL80 MBH. However, if we are given a chance at knights, I will surely elevate my game to go after a double payday, as long as I can have a reasonable chance at victory. I would say reasonable is me soloing 40% of the marks I go for that are above the 126k level.


    Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
    Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:18 pm
    #59






    AcimEriga wrote:

    Well, I see a great many jedi knights complaining that they cant remember the last time a BH came for them. This would seem to be a step in that direction. After all, what good is hunting a knight if you cant kill them, anyway? Sure, we can hunt in groups, but splitting 225k 3 ways, which is the minimum group accepted for a knight is far less than a 120k solo. Now, if they make it possible to kill knights 1 on 1, youd better believe that we will be going for the bigger payday. After all, we know we arent slowing anyone down, so why take a 56k paddy, when you can kill a 225k knight?


    I believe that there will be more knights seeing action, if they are brought down to a level that is soloable by a skilled BH, and that equation doesnt require a jedi player who doesnt know what the little icons are for.


    By all means, I do not want that victory cheapened by knights being dumbed down so that any person who can hit icons beats a knight, but I have been doing this for nearly a year, and I still dont feel confident in hunting a knight post-CU, since I know I will never outdamage the heals. Thus, I tend towards the 126k that Tanks worked out as a good match for a CL80 MBH. However, if we are given a chance at knights, I will surely elevate my game to go after a double payday, as long as I can have a reasonable chance at victory. I would say reasonable is me soloing 40% of the marks I go for that are above the 126k level.






    I don't. BH's who can take on challenging opponents now aren't doing so. Why would this change?




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    Lastrights007
    Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:44 pm
    #60

    Well the BHs got what they wanted full template Jedi reduced to master brawlers, so I can tell you that until the FRS is re-instated or Jedi is removed from the GCW and the powers are given back there is absolutely no reason for me to even log the character on.


    You never stop to realize all the people you hurt when you whine. I for one used my character to help a lot of others out to complete quests and get loot especially some of the newer stuff on kashyyyk including BHs but now you have put Jediina position to do nothing to help anyone else and be completely selfish.


    So best of luck but you won't have me to hunt until they make Jedi what it is supposed to be.


    Your community Tanks has taken the most sought after and esquisite profession in Star Wars lore and ruined it. It may only be a game but there are real people and true Star Wars fans on the other side of each and every keyboard so do your worst but remember God is watching.





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    _Apache
    Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:44 pm
    #61

    Maybe I missed it. But has there been a date set for this new Publish?



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    HeadRoll
    Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:00 pm
    #62


    I think that's a pretty retarded thing for a dev to do, honestly. Lightsaber wasn't overpowered to begin with.








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    _Apache
    Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:06 pm
    #63






    HeadRoll wrote:


    I think that's a pretty retarded thing for a dev to do, honestly. Lightsaber wasn't overpowered to begin with.








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    Why would you say that? They didnt nerf Light Sabers. They buffed them.



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    Jargal
    Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:06 pm
    #64

    From the jedi forum about the changes in publ 19.:




    Saber Throw... "A ranged 35 meter Knockdown on a 3 second timer on a melee class at a box 4 ability was deemed too powerful."



    Just wanted to show for those jedis claiming that they had the same KD we regular professions had.


    Look at that! 3 sec timer!! This is a proof of how Caelrie and other jedi players lie about their abilites. Now it's proved they were not being honest.



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    Crash752
    Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:16 pm
    #65






    Lastrights007 wrote:

    Well the BHs got what they wanted full template Jedi reduced to master brawlers, so I can tell you that until the FRS is re-instated or Jedi is removed from the GCW and the powers are given back there is absolutely no reason for me to even log the character on.


    You never stop to realize all the people you hurt when you whine. I for one used my character to help a lot of others out to complete quests and get loot especially some of the newer stuff on kashyyyk including BHs but now you have put Jediina position to do nothing to help anyone else and be completely selfish.


    So best of luck but you won't have me to hunt until they make Jedi what it is supposed to be.


    Your community Tanks has taken the most sought after and esquisite profession in Star Wars lore and ruined it. It may only be a game but there are real people and true Star Wars fans on the other side of each and every keyboard so do your worst but remember God is watching.







    Jedi nerf themselves. All we get to do is kill you. It wouldn't have come tothis if Jedi suffered penalties. Like 3 deaths and your toon is gone. Skill boxloss. Saber TEF's.


    Theres no turning back now. There are too many of you and too many of you are insane now.




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