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Thread: BH GETS TO MUCH LOVE BRING BACK THE BALANCE

Tinakarath
Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:58 pm
#53

Ah so Master defender spamming infusion and surviving against 4-5 other players for 20 minutes is fair?


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xakia
Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:54 pm
#54

Jedi Force Whine ftw


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JMShunter
Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:57 pm
#55

you sir are a complete tard






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NoStyleGuy
Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:57 pm
#56



JMShunter wrote:
you sir are a complete tard



i hope u mean the orginial poster.



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ValinDalsace
Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:34 pm
#57


You make a stupid, uninformed post, you are a noob...so I restate my earlier post...CRY MORE ...NOOB! There is a reason BH get weapons that have double the stats yours does... we dont have armor break ..idiot!


PS for the record, I've been playign since beta... the original relaese..but since you werent around then...its about 2.5 years ago.


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Message Edited by ValinDalsace on 10-18-2005 11:35 PM



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Darka-ce
Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:06 am
#58


BarneyIX wrote:


ScOpEH wrote:
I dont want you nerfed just the balance back no one can get a saber with a max damage over 750 your guns are like 1200 not balanced we have force,mind and action cost no real defence you lot want a challenge then stop crying nerf. i got so nerf for you
Wait a sec don't you still get saber block? You know that skill which blocks ranged weapons of all kinds despite the type of projectile? I haven't fought a Jedi in a LONG time since I left the game Pre CU so maybe this was taken out... I just remember 80% of my shots NOT getting through. Barney, it has been a long time for you my friend. Yes, jedi get saber block but only at MASTER Sabers is it something like 65%. Jedi who do not have Master Sabers, it is MUCH lower.

Reduce BH damage in all weapons to match jedi
Fine as long as you make our Min 100 less than our Maximum similar to your Light Sabers and make our damage a special type that negates all of your Jedi Defenses. Again Barney, showing your age here too. Jedi sabers do "energy" damage now, not "Light saber", so you Do have resists to Jedi weapons. BHs now have 8100+ energy resist suits that have 75% armor break resists. This is FAR superior to even the best of Jedi innate armor which is 6k and only for MDEFs

Reduce heal times to match jedi
Give BH a Risk for losing to a Jedi ie the person you took the mission from puts a bounty on your head for failing (happens in the real world)
Why? We aren't 1.5X stronger than any other proffession if you want us to be an Alpha class as well as Jedi then I would accpent the XP penalty Barney, read my post a couple of posts above this one. Jedi are most definately NOT 1.5x stronger than a CL80. My post explains why. I will say this however on the BH risk part. If BHs keep insisting that BH and Jedi should be "balanced", then they TOO should share the risk of defeat that jedi do. They also should have to endure a similar length of grind to "unlock" a BH template and length of grind to master it. To be "balanced", by definition, all things should be EQUAL. Currently it is not equal OR balanced. Jedi full temp grind from FS to full temp takes 60 TIMES as much XP and does less damage, has less defense, less attack speed, less healing power as a BH/CM and has a penalty upon death.

Dont let BH wear armor as we can't (like the good old days)
Did you actually play in the old days or just read about it? We had armor several types and macros to switch from an unarmored state, to an armored state, and back again to lessen the HAM hits that were so incredibly high with the first sets of armor. Although you can not wear armor you do get very nice defensive bonuses above and beyond what normal proffessions right? Actually no. Again, with the exception of Master Defenders, Jedi ranged and melee defense stats are LOWER than a single master elite BH by a LONG shot. You do not find Jedi with 200+ ranged and melee defense. In most cases, it is half that. In some cases much less.

If SOE continue the way its going you are not going to have any jedi to fight
One can hope I suppose. Okay, both your comment and the orinal comment are irrelevent here

Let jedi use mind trick to know if your after them
Why not just give you the "I WIN" button that you want so badly... you could just Mind Trick us to drop dead. Ok, a "Jedi Mind Trick" that allows you some supernatural knowledge of a BH hunting you is just silly, however your response is clearly inflammatory. Bad Barney, bad ;-)

Instant BAN for a BH if a friend gets involved ie drag spawn, stopping from cloaking
Both BH and Jedi are guilty of exploiting this and many other issues and I agree ANY exploiter should be punished PERIOD.
The balance between JEDI & BH is way out of control now and most of you will agree
jedi should be 1.5x stronger but can be soled by anyone it should take 2of you according to SOE
Perhaps if you increased your PvP Skills/Rating instead of your Forum Board Rant/Whine/Troll rating you wouldn't die 1v1 every time. Another inflammatory and unsubstantiated comment Barney. I am disappointed, you started out doing so well. Stick to the issues not name calling.

Respect to you all and have a nice day

Message Edited by ScOpEH on 10-18-200511:34 PM










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Endymion29
Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:09 am
#59

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Expose idiocy or hypocrisy


Actually not a bad idea


Personal opinion





ScOpEH wrote:


I dont want you nerfed just the balance back no one can get a saber with a max damage over 750 your guns are like 1200not balancedwe have force,mind and action cost no real defence you lot want a challenge then stop crying nerf. i got so nerf for you


Reduce BH damage in all weapons to match jediand give them a counter to saberblock,or maybe stop me usingsaberblock when KD'd

Reduce heal times to match jedi and let BH's heal when KD'd too


Give BH a Risk for losing to a Jedi ie the person you took the mission from puts a bounty on your head for failing(happens in the real world) Which real world? Where in the real world is a bounty placed on a BH who fails? The real world in your right buttock?


Dont let BH wear armor as we can't (like the good old days) because we all know that BH's NEVER wear armour. Boba wore a tux, and Jango a hot little red number.



If SOE continue the way its going you are not going to have any jedi to fight Suits me. The average "Jedi" in this gamedemonstrates less knowledge of the Jedi (or Dark Jedi) Code than I do of quantum physics.As a die-hard geek fan of the setting, I find most of you repellent.


Let jedi use mind trick to know if your after them Don't have a problem with a Jedi getting a warning tingle from the Force when a BH with their contract lands on the same planet. Makes it harder for the BH, but it gives the Master Powers Jedi an edge. (It should come under Powers, imho)


Instant BAN for a BH if a friend gets involved ie drag spawn, stopping from cloaking and insta-ban any jedi that goes afk for hours in a player cantina or house, too. You all know who you are, and you only do it to grief BH's.


The balance between JEDI & BH is way out of control now and most of you will agree that Jedi don't get nearly enough of the game our way. We can't call up Force Storms or become beings of pure energy yet.


jedi should be 1.5x stronger but can be soled by anyone it should take 2of you according to SOE Newsflash: you are 1.5 times stronger. It takes COMBAT MEDICS flinging poo to semi-reliably take downa jedi, just like they can take down any other class.


Respect to you all and have a nice day

Message Edited by ScOpEH on 10-18-2005 11:34 PM



Fixed




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Jorvas
Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:20 am
#60






ScOpEH wrote:


I dont want you nerfed just the balance back no one can get a saber with a max damage over 750 your guns are like 1200not balancedwe have force,mind and action cost no real defence you lot want a challenge then stop crying nerf. i got so nerf for you


Reduce BH damage in all weapons to match jedi

Reduce heal times to match jedi

Give BH a Risk for losing to a Jedi ie the person you took the mission from puts a bounty on your head for failing(happens in the real world)

Dont let BH wear armor as we can't (like the good old days)



If SOE continue the way its going you are not going to have any jedi to fight

Let jedi use mind trick to know if your after them

Instant BAN for a BH if a friend gets involved ie drag spawn, stopping from cloaking


The balance between JEDI & BH is way out of control now and most of you will agree


jedi should be 1.5x stronger but can be soled by anyone it should take 2of you according to SOE


Respect to you all and have a nice day

Message Edited by ScOpEH on 10-18-2005 11:34 PM




Did you write this to attract as much hate as possible???



Learn to play your character instead of crying on the forum!





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insaniac77
Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:36 am
#61






ScOpEH wrote:


I dont want you nerfed just the balance back no one can get a saber with a max damage over 750 your guns are like 1200not balancedwe have force,mind and action cost no real defence you lot want a challenge then stop crying nerf. i got so nerf for you


Reduce BH damage in all weapons to match jedi

Reduce heal times to match jedi

Give BH a Risk for losing to a Jedi ie the person you took the mission from puts a bounty on your head for failing(happens in the real world)

Dont let BH wear armor as we can't (like the good old days)



If SOE continue the way its going you are not going to have any jedi to fight

Let jedi use mind trick to know if your after them

Instant BAN for a BH if a friend gets involved ie drag spawn, stopping from cloaking


The balance between JEDI & BH is way out of control now and most of you will agree


jedi should be 1.5x stronger but can be soled by anyone it should take 2of you according to SOE


Respect to you all and have a nice day

Message Edited by ScOpEH on 10-18-2005 11:34 PM




Im jedi and I was also mbh for quite a few months way back when. I like most of your ideas except the one about bh not wearing armor, in the movies/books jedi dont wear armor, bh do, a bh would be stupid to go hunting a jedi with no armor on.



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robpro
Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:52 am
#62






ScOpEH wrote:


I dont want you nerfed just the balance back no one can get a saber with a max damage over 750 your guns are like 1200not balancedwe have force,mind and action cost no real defence you lot want a challenge then stop crying nerf. i got so nerf for you


Reduce BH damage in all weapons to match jedi

Reduce heal times to match jedi

Give BH a Risk for losing to a Jedi ie the person you took the mission from puts a bounty on your head for failing(happens in the real world)

Dont let BH wear armor as we can't (like the good old days)



If SOE continue the way its going you are not going to have any jedi to fight

Let jedi use mind trick to know if your after them

Instant BAN for a BH if a friend gets involved ie drag spawn, stopping from cloaking


The balance between JEDI & BH is way out of control now and most of you will agree


jedi should be 1.5x stronger but can be soled by anyone it should take 2of you according to SOE


Respect to you all and have a nice day

Message Edited by ScOpEH on 10-18-2005 11:34 PM





Your right our max damage is higher than jedi but our min damage is lower. its funny becasue even though my weapons have a higher max dmg than the jedi light saber i can only do 200-500 dmg per hit while the jedi with a lower max dmg is hitting me for 900-1200 per hit.


our weapons are balanced just like jedi defenses are balanced



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Genacide1
Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:49 am
#63

Yes, I think we should have a CHOICE in being hunted.


The thing I see as a gripe is how damned long it takes to grind a jedi.... & then to be beaten by someone whos been ingame a month.


A level 56 pawadan with a 300 damage saber hasnt a chance in hell.


A jedi cant buy a 700 damage saber off the bazaar.


And after tmw then cant even run away.


Having a BH and a jedi I see the unbalance & its sad.






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bmill
Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:57 am
#64




ScOpEH wrote:


I dont want you nerfed just the balance back no one can get a saber with a max damage over 750 your guns are like 1200not balancedwe have force,mind and action cost no real defence you lot want a challenge then stop crying nerf. i got so nerf for you


All weapons can be that level. You need to spend the money to get yours up there.


Reduce BH damage in all weapons to match jedi addressed

Reduce heal times to match jedi Combat medics can heal faster thana Jedi, but Jedi have a much higher DPS

Give BH a Risk for losing to a Jedi ie the person you took the mission from puts a bounty on your head for failing(happens in the real world) I'm all for a BH visibility sytem.

Dont let BH wear armor as we can't (like the good old days) What good old days? Hunters could wear from day 1 launch.


If SOE continue the way its going you are not going to have any jedi to fight doubt it

Let jedi use mind trick to know if your after them not a bad idea, although some hunter minds will be stronger than others. I doubt a mind trick would have worked on Boba Fett, but certainly on Bossk or Zuckuss

Instant BAN for a BH if a friend gets involved ie drag spawn, stopping from cloakinglol, there is nothing to stop a "friend" and shouldn't be. Onlookers can help in their own way, from both sides


The balance between JEDI & BH is way out of control now and most of you will agree far too many of both


jedi should be 1.5x stronger but can be soled by anyone it should take 2of you according to SOE Jedi can be beat 1 V 1 because the BH is just better. Better equipment, tactics, etc. You don't inherantly get to be "better", you have to earn it.


Respect to you all and have a nice day

Message Edited by ScOpEH on 10-18-2005 11:34 PM








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Romulus76
Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:27 am
#65






ScOpEH wrote:


I dont want you nerfed just the balance back no one can get a saber with a max damage over 750 your guns are like 1200not balancedwe have force,mind and action cost no real defence you lot want a challenge then stop crying nerf. i got so nerf for you


Reduce BH damage in all weapons to match jedi

Reduce heal times to match jedi

Give BH a Risk for losing to a Jedi ie the person you took the mission from puts a bounty on your head for failing(happens in the real world)

Dont let BH wear armor as we can't (like the good old days)



If SOE continue the way its going you are not going to have any jedi to fight

Let jedi use mind trick to know if your after them

Instant BAN for a BH if a friend gets involved ie drag spawn, stopping from cloaking


The balance between JEDI & BH is way out of control now and most of you will agree


jedi should be 1.5x stronger but can be soled by anyone it should take 2of you according to SOE


Respect to you all and have a nice day

Message Edited by ScOpEH on 10-18-2005 11:34 PM




Are you dumb? The modifiers on saber moves are way more powerful than anything a bh can come up with AND you have armor break. Go get a clue.








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