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Thread: BH GETS TO MUCH LOVE BRING BACK THE BALANCE

BioEngine
Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:10 pm
#40






ScOpEH wrote:
BH vs Jedi is called forced content.


Ya forced ie NOT FUN AGAINST MY WISHES AGAINST SOE T&C OF FAIR PLAY






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An RPG has limits. This is not Doom / Quake / Halo. It has rules that you agree to abide by. If you don't, then stop clicking "I Agree" every time you log in.





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Akaie
Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:11 pm
#41

LMFAOROFL.......look anyone who kills themselves for dying in a game is a complete moron who probably should have recieved help SOONER.


Don't blame the way others play or how SOE administers this game.


LMAO..........and if this family of this kid tried to make a law suit against SOE......they need to be looked at as well.


ScOpEH
Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:12 pm
#42

-DIABLO- ON CHIM EXPLOITS CLOCK HE DID IT TO ME


want to know what SOE said


game is working as intended




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DoctorFett
Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:13 pm
#43

anyway jedi then complain about loosing xp when in a situation like that, they killed themselves, but no thats the BHs fault too



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- I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
Your voice counts!
BioEngine
Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:14 pm
#44

SOE doesn't say jack, jack.


If you send in a ticket and a CSR actually answers it, then a CSR says something. Not SOE. Some CSR's don't even know what a "Tiggs" is.



I say provide a screenshot where they say that, because I do not believe people who do not have evidence.



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Gruug
Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:48 pm
#45






ScOpEH wrote:


I dont want you nerfed just the balance back no one can get a saber with a max damage over 750 your guns are like 1200not balancedwe have force,mind and action cost no real defence you lot want a challenge then stop crying nerf. i got so nerf for you


Reduce BH damage in all weapons to match jedi

Reduce heal times to match jedi

Give BH a Risk for losing to a Jedi ie the person you took the mission from puts a bounty on your head for failing(happens in the real world)

Dont let BH wear armor as we can't (like the good old days)



If SOE continue the way its going you are not going to have any jedi to fight

Let jedi use mind trick to know if your after them

Instant BAN for a BH if a friend gets involved ie drag spawn, stopping from cloaking


The balance between JEDI & BH is way out of control now and most of you will agree


jedi should be 1.5x stronger but can be soled by anyone it should take 2of you according to SOE


Respect to you all and have a nice day

Message Edited by ScOpEH on 10-18-2005 11:34 PM





Dont let BH wear armor as we can't (like the good old days)


Want a minute...there was never a time when anyone could not get some armor. I started day one and had several types of armor. And BH were able to wear the same type of armor as I wore.



Ok, with thatstraightened out, just balance it so BH/JEDI are equal in a one on one fight. Don't care about anything else. I have both a Jedi and a BH so just to make them equal would at least make playing one or the other fun.




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NoStyleGuy
Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:49 pm
#46



ScOpEH wrote:
I dont want you nerfed just the balance back no one can get a saber with a max damage over 750 your guns are like 1200not balancedwe have force,mind and action cost no real defence you lot want a challenge then stop crying nerf. i got so nerf for you
Reduce BH damage in all weapons to match jedi
Reduce heal times to match jedi
Give BH a Risk for losing to a Jedi ie the person you took the mission from puts a bounty on your head for failing(happens in the real world)
Dont let BH wear armor as we can't (like the good old days)
If SOE continue the way its going you are not going to have any jedi to fight
Let jedi use mind trick to know if your after them
Instant BAN for a BH if a friend gets involved ie drag spawn, stopping from cloaking
The balance between JEDI & BH is way out of control now and most of you will agree
jedi should be 1.5x stronger but can be soled by anyone it should take 2of you according to SOE
Respect to you all and have a nice day

Message Edited by ScOpEH on 10-18-2005 11:34 PM





That is the greatest paradox in this game: jedi want it to be balanced, but really they want to be 1.5x stronger

heres some things to chew on:
Ask a Master defender (even post CU saber) worth his salt in PvP about a BH attack. 90% of them will say with looping aura,infusion,and valor macros, along with food's they can literally go to the bathroom while the BH attacks and still be alive when they come back.

Dont get me started on weapons:
A:any time you PvP against a jedi, he usually has Aura, granting him +500 defense. This immediately pushes a weapons damage toward its Minimum , which for guns with 1200 max, is about 475.

I'd much rather be PvPing with a 650min-750max Damage weapon (Uber Lightsaber) than a 475-1200 Rifle (Uber rifle)

B)Jedi has moves like Armor Break which increase the damage potential incredibley. Example. it is not uncommon for a jedi with an "Uber" saber to KD/Armor break/Power hit and hit for over 1300 dmg. Where as a rifleman's most damageing combo can land similarly.(~1300) but usually hits for closer to 500. (goes back to minimum damage)

Armor: a master Defender has 50 innate armor, which equates to 5,000 all around armor which can never be destroyed or taken off. Add in 235 melee defnse (more than most BH's ranged defense), +500 defense from aura, and +20 (or +25) saber Block, and your stopping more damage than any melee tank, and alot more than any Bounty hunter ever could.

Specials: Jedi who dont have Master defender have Force Armor, and Stasis To basically absorb damage until they are close to death, +Stasis+ and wait to regen health. OR They can cloak and completely vanish! OR they can +Stasis+ FR3 and run as fast as my BARC.

When u anaylize the facts; the only jedi in danger are those who havn't developed thier Full Template, and since they havn't completed thier template they shouldn't be balanced anyways.



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DoctorFett
Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:52 pm
#47

they always wanted it that way because they think that since they r jedi they should be the best nobody else matters just jedi and that is what pisses me off the most, when somebody thinks there better than you. Sure its just a game, but think about that guy must have the same attitude in real life, Id punch a guy in the face if they were to act like that to me face to face.



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- I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
Your voice counts!
rickaf29
Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:57 pm
#48






Akaie wrote:


So what's ur temp if ur complaining...I'll bet ur a dabbler. Ask a MDef if BH weapons are too strong.





Yes
Let me clarify--Based on Lightsaber speed bugs, poor crystals/pearls, BH weapons are too strong. Fix those and more balance shall come.

I did not say Balance, I said more balance.

Message Edited by rickaf29 on 10-18-2005 05:59 PM

NoStyleGuy
Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:59 pm
#49

The fact is an alpha class doesn't belong in a MMORPG. it creates unneeded hostility and unbalance. period. The people who have jedi are either:

A: Unusually gracious and feel a need to use thier power to help their friends.

or

B: 13 year olds with superiority complexes who just want power becuase they think if they can "p0wnz0r enough n00bs" in a video game, that makes them special.

unfortunately the 'A's usually are overshadowed by the 'B's who are quick to speak thier egotistical minds.



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Synner1985
Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:01 pm
#50

heh, ANOTHER bitching jedi.... they can kill everything they **edit**, someone else can kill everything, they **edit**, someone gets somthing new... they **edit**...


I'm waiting for them to **edit** when the musicians get a new song.... How DARE someone else get something and we're ain't getting anything, only an entire exp aimed towards jedi!



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rickaf29
Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:08 pm
#51






Synner1985 wrote:

heh, ANOTHER bitching jedi.... they can kill everything they **edit**, someone else can kill everything, they **edit**, someone gets somthing new... they **edit**...


I'm waiting for them to **edit** when the musicians get a new song.... How DARE someone else get something and we're ain't getting anything, only an entire exp aimed towards jedi!



P|ss Off Back To Your Own Forums!





Not complaining at all. Just pointing out that Max damage of other weapons are higher than sabers.


I thought that was the point of the post and a valid discussion.


Someone asked a MDEF to post so I did.


I never said nerf. What I would like to see is equivalent damage. Would make for more fun battles. I love the fact that Bounty Hunters come to fight makes things more fun. Especially the smart ones who hit me unawares and dont say a thing. Just smack and the battle is on.


BTW these are my forums too. I am a paying customer with a MBH.


Thanks for your constructive criticism.




BioEngine
Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:10 pm
#52

Balancing in MUDs



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