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Thread: NPC Boss Marks Post-Pub 24 (Updated)

Riwarr
Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:50 am
#53


Well so far I've run several BH missions the silver elite mobs are easy to dispatch with haven't had problems with them. The Gold bosses with low hams seem to be harder than before but I haven't had a real problem. However the gold mobs that have 30000hams are regening way to quick.


The last one I had had 33009ham lvl82 and with poison and fire on and with my pistol which is 607bdps (pup'd at the time) with 71sac I didn't get him down below 30000 even while using improved aim before my action ran out (was using booster blue and mandalorian wine at the time) then decided to try again using deuterium-pyro +200 and even then I couldn't get it down below 25000 and he also hit me for 633with duelist stance up and 6k resist armor and with a psg with 2301 energy resist so I ended up dead.



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DTQ
Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:56 am
#54

Well Ive now met one of the crazy regen ones, They hurt a lot, I certainly COULD NOT solo them, but thats 1 out of 4 bosses, I got him in the end (with a docs help) and got a coloured light sabre crystal and one of the low end stacks of powercells, (167 damage), better than a warm hat, but having to drag a doc around for those missions will be nasty, apologies to the ahazi kadaraa BH, I knicked you buff bot for this mission



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Cadeyrn
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:00 am
#55

Okay, I just did my first Bounty Mission after publish 24 and surpise, surprise, I got a level 82 golden shevron mark (35k ham) using a T21.

I'm Master BH, Master Rifleman, 3000 CM using a Heavy Lighning Rifle

stats are..
Damage: 475-1144(+40)
Speed: 2.37
SAC: 65 (puped)


Here are some facts about the encounter..

First shot: 18:56:32
Mark died at 19:10:31
The fight lasted 14 minutes!

The Power-up on my weapon went from 480 uses left to 246 uses.. meaning I shot over 230 times at the mark! When assuming an average Damage of 500 per shot which is rather conservative I think (ranged shot ~420, advanced head shot & advanced crit shot ~750) I had to deal over 110k damage to the mark! I effectively had to kill the mark trice.

I was hit for anywhere between 400 and 1200 (crit shot while KDed) before armour wich made it a constant race wheater my mind runs out before I kill the mark. I used 7k Ubese armour - wich cut the damage in half and lost about 3k condition in the process. Lots of food and spice. Didn't use Doc buffs or a PSG, but that wouldn't have shortened the fight by much.


It might be more of a challenge now to kill the Boss mobs, but it certainly isn't more fun. 14 god-damn minutes! Healing is out of control in your game and you fix it - or try to anyway - by giving the creatures/NPC silly regeneration rates.. good going.



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NergalMS
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:06 am
#56

Master Rifleman/Master BH/CM 4000/

Equipement

Mabari Pants, Chest, Ubese Helm all adked and fully armor break sliced

7990 Energy Resist

HLR 479-1150 full crit slice

1.35 mod speed

+57 Accuracy

82 Sac (57 pupped for fight)


MODS

+25 GRA

+25 GRS

+25 Rifle Speed

+25 Rifle Accuracy

+25 Healign eff

+25 ranged Def

+25 Melee Def


Food

Blob candy

Bofa treat

Canape

Spiced Tea

Air Cake


Mark

CL 82 35k health <<>>


First time i fought him I got him down to 70% of health before he finally overwhelmed me, hitting me between 470 and 670 each shot from a pistol.


The second time I fodded up, got doc buffs and had a doc sit behind me and heal me. It took about 10 minutes to take him down. I had duelist stance constantly running, I had a heal over time on me at all times and the doc still had to heal me 14 times. I used a KD every 30 seconds and alternated adv critical and head shot, tried blind 5 times, never took. My loot upon killing whas a helmet schematic and a jar of foraged bugs.




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NebHuskerFan
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:17 am
#57

My template is Master Bounty Hunter/Master Carbineer/Pistols x/x/x/3 and some fs accuracy and speed. My questions is this, why are bh being forced to take a line in cm in order to survive? Now with NPC bh marks this tough you have to be able to heal yourself faster then stims will do or you die. As a master bounty hunter combined with any other master (pistol, carbine, rifles, even melee) we should be strong enough to win once in a while. I'm all for making the AI stronger as I do not want my mark to lay down and roll over for me, but damn I should not have to have cm in order to stay in the fight with him for longer than a few seconds. They are forcing BH to add cm in some way or the profession is worthless. You may see this as crying or whatever, but I do not believe that I should HAVE to take a line in combat medic in order to survive as a BH! Hybrid professions should be able to win a battle one on one without having CM in thier template. Otherwise it doesn't seem like a hybrid profession!



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Romulus76
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:23 am
#58



Man these devs keep screwing this game up. So far today I've fought a few things to check out the new npc ai.


First took a bh npc mission. Got an Elite with 20k Ham and CL 82. I killed him after 15 minutes of a fight. He switched to pikeman immediately, burstran at me and armorbroke me. Then immediately switched to an e11 mk2 carb, charge shot kd, then advanced crit me with armorbreak. LOL. I survived by healing but was severely drained at the end of the fight and got..... a freaking delicate trigger assembly and credits. WOOOHOOOO!


Then I went to dantooine to check out the darkside mobs that were formerly CL 111. Guess what, no longer CL 111 but are CL 83. Checked the HAM, no longer are they 8k to 10k they're now 7200 ham. Ok. Three shot them. CL 83. Went down like a ton of bricks with the quickness. They didn't even have time to use any specials or aura or anything. Got a GOOD crystal off one credits off the others. What a joke.


Went from there to Lok. Found some GDK's. CL 81 with 34k ham. Got one away from the group and went to work. 30 minutes later I've got him dead and what do I get for my trouble? Nada. I didn't even bother with the others.


HAM regens are ridiculous. The fact they can spam specials without worrying about action is lame. The fact they "heal" without mind drain is lame. The fact that the loots still suck for this increased difficulty is lame. I'm all for more challenging marks so long as their realistic. There is no way the BH NPC BOSS Marks should be like they are. We can't group to kill them like the other mobs in the game. I say put their regens back to pre24. Leave the AI alone, that's not so much my concern as the regen of their ham. If they're going to be able to "heal" they need to have some adverse effect as well.


Edit: BTW I'm MBH-4440 Carb-4004 CM with Capped Attachments for Carb Acc, Carb Speed, Gen Ranged Acc, Gen Ranged Speed, Carb Defense, Melee Defense, Ranged Defense, Healing Efficiency, Bio-Supression Efficiency and Terrain Negotiation. Wearing ADK'ed BH Energy Armor (6000 ener 5900 kin 6000hcae) and using a max dmg max sac Elite Carb with a speed pup 900+ dps.

Message Edited by Romulus76 on 10-20-2005 11:29 AM

Message Edited by Romulus76 on 10-20-2005 11:30 AM








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THE_Grendel_Prime
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:32 am
#59


Boss mark was 36K Ham CL 82


I'm MBH - MR - 3000 CM (1040 FS Crafting)


I was wearing a combination of tantel/ubese armor with 8130 energy protection.


My ALR is 2.xx spd, 1181 dmg, acc bonus of 61. with a SAC pup.


I had taken: Spiced Tea, Blob Candy, Kanali Wafers, Ruby Biliel, Picacloud, Synthsteak (as needed until my tummy filled up)...and popped a Booster blue a few minutes into the fight. The fight lasted several minutes AFTER my Booster blue downer..so the fight took at a minimum of 17mins.


De-buffs I started to use were snare, blind, dizzy, bleed


After noticing that while mixing in these debuff moves, with my standard attack patterns, the NPC Boss' Health was hardly being affected. 1st I tried switching to my FWG, thinking that maybe the Boss had comp armor with some insane energy resists. But the DPS from the pistol was not enough to do any real damage to the mark, he'd regen as fast as I would damage, especially if I was using lower DPS specials. I had to switch back to my ALR, and changethe default attk to Adv Critical Shot, and only use my default attk, and well timed KD's to be able to do enough DPS to start putting a dent in the NPCs health.


What's interesting...it doesn't seem to be EVERY NPC "Boss" mark....as I had another "boss" mark earlier to this one, and did NOT have these kind of issues.



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DTQ
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:46 am
#60

yep Im thinking most boss's are fine, but theres some real nasty ones out there, Ive killed 3 and found 1 nasty one, that I couldnt solo.


Im thinking its good that we get thrown the odd stumbling block, I dont think we should assume we will be able to beat every mark, they are a higher CL and a double gold mark, should we automatically be able to slaughter them all?





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Iawo
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:02 pm
#61



I'm not usually one to complain about the difficulty, but dayum... some of those 36K ham Boss marks are now in god mode. Nightsisters are easier thansome boss marksare now... even when they use the force aura+ force speed+ force lightning+ force choke + Saber armor breakon you.

I got one down about 1/4 of the way down before I realized that my mind bar was half gone (this was after foods and spice) and decided it was time to break the fight off. Mark kept closing to melee range using a power hammer + armor break. 75% AB sliced armor, and it was still hitting me for 600-1200 per hit. Tried kiting, but it could outrun me even when snared.


Gun is Featherweight FWG-5 damage capped, 68 sac, 1.22 modified speed with a damage powerup. Not the best, but it's not trash. Armor is 7188 Kin 5188 Energy 5288 SP Rebel Assault armor, + PSG. Equipment has +25 Pistol speed +18 ranged Acc +25 Healing Eff, +8 bleed resist, +14 melee def +17 stun resist. Zabrak Msmuggler / MBH / novice commando / medic 0010 + probot with healing module, combat, auto repair. Foods used: Pica Thundercloud, blob candy, spiced tea, kanali wafers, Citros Snow cake, Crispic, Booster Blue. Did my usual routine of Adv critical shot + torso shot + ranged shot, keeping low blow (combat slow) applied and doing a knockdown + critical shot whenever low blow wears off. Also running duelist stance macro, and I make sure to refresh it if the macro messes up.


Guess I couldtry steak and dodge food, but that doesn't leave much room in the stomach for the snow cake. Could also try spamming ruby + stims I guess too... Kinda crazy that you'd need all that to kill a stupid NPC though. I've dueled MBH / M carbs / CM 4000's with that template and flattened them. I have another friend that is MBH / Mrifles / CM 4000, and we usually trade incaps. Might also try stacking duelist stance + CoB and see if that helps any.


I could do damage to the mark just fine... it was just the insane damage he dished out while having super health and action regen. I could kill 36k ham boss marks before only healing once or twice and do it in under 2 minutes. That was too easy, but these are a little over the top now.


Marks name is Ma-E Ienoik, mission name Gank Assassin Leader.


Finally killed him on the second go around by dragging him to a malkoc lair and stacking CoB + Duelist Stance + thundercloud. 800 Defense for teh w1n. He was actually missing me at that point so it wasn't so bad. Guess that's one of the perks to having that unarmed branch for smuggler...

Message Edited by Iawo on 10-20-2005 03:12 AM



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DoctorInju
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:10 pm
#62

I've fought two of these tough, gold marks so far. I am a MBH / Master Carbineer/ CM 4000. I was wearing composite with roughly 6500 kinetic, 4500 energy, and a PSG with 2200 energy. My gun was an elite with capped damage and SAC, with a good damage PUP. I was not using great food, just some junk I had left over from grinding. In the second battle, I used a 110 medical droid.


The first mark was level 82 andhad 34k health and regenerated it faster thanmy DPS, leaving me with only specials to do 34k damage and overcome the extra regeneration. As with other players, his action wasinfinite. Initially, he used ranged attacks, but immediately closed to melee range. While ranged, he dealt typically around 350 damage to me. However, in melee range (with a combat knife), his attacks started at 600 and just went up from there. I saw at least one 1100 melee hit. Knockdowns, snares, and suppression fire were basically worthless, as he simply burst ran towards me the moment I put any distance between us. Kiting was thusly impossible. I died twice before calling in reinforcements; in both fights, I was only capable of lowering his health to 28k. Two other BH's from my guild arrived to help me and were occasionally capable of damaging him. Even with their periodic attacks and constant heals on me, I only barely lived through the fight. It took us just shy of 10 minutes to kill him.


The second mark was level 82 as well, but had only 32k health. In addition, her regeneration was reduced, although her action remained undiminished. This mark never used melee attacks, but was still quite dangerous. I was ableto lower her to about 33% health before I ran out of mind. My attempts to flee were for naught, as any attempt to put distance between us were met with burst running from her, much like the previous mark.


In my opinion, some of these marks are technically soloable, though the especially potent ones like my first battle are not. I regard any claims of easy kills of these exceptional marks as boastful lies. They are simply too powerful. Some, however, are soloable. As far as I'm concerned, it's not generally worth it, though. Spendingmost ofthe potential reward money on food, spice, medical supplies, and replacement armor for the chance to find something worthwhile is not how I would describe a good deal. To make these marks worthwhile, valuable drops must be almost guaranteed.

BrendanK
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:12 pm
#63

I haven't gotten any "boss marks" but I've gotten several CL 81, 19k ham ones...

I'm a MBH, MP, CM 4000

Before, these guys used to take me two minutes or so to take out..

Now?

It's closer to ten with some of them..

I have an 800dps Trando supressor pistol I use for PVE, I have a full suit of primus layered BH armor, and I can say, the new NPC's are significantly harder..not impossible, but almost not worth the time anymore..Maybe it's a way of slowing down the crazy loot numbers or something..but man..ten minutes for a illegal core booster leaves a bad taste in your mouth..



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justplainzero
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:47 pm
#64

MHB/MCM/Carbs 0400

food : pyro,tea,blob (im the unluckiest looter u will ever meet)

Buff : doc buff

Armour : crappy assault thats battered to heck(i use for npc marks/general pve)

BOSSMARK: first mark in new pub

weapon : sliced Proton carb, pupped..nothing special

met him on tat, 34k..ouch...i call my droid, use my usual KD/para/shock/thy/fire etc starter (duelist used before first shot)
he starts hitting me for 350-500dmg ranged, ouch...but so far nothing i cant handle, then he KD's me, runs in and uses armour break
and starts hitting for 800-1k dmg, i heal, get up, KD, apply drain, brun away, he follows....switches to his carb and starts hitting me again, INSANE regen...i remember the old rule of BH'ing.."get backup" i run into the first lair i can find(i think it was jabba's guys...not sure they were NPC's), idiots STILL use AoE...he aggro's the lair, i whoop him...with lair aggro he fell in 3 min, i do however see a problem with those quiet planets...all that for a stupid mando frame..

BOSSMARK : 31k ,2nd after 6 missions(i seem to get them MORE now?!) Dathomir, same tactic,kite him into a lair, he aggro's some wildlife and tries to kill a Bull Rancor..right...goodluck buddy i move away from them and go prone hit him with my best specials...he falls in less than a min...core booster! yay!(i actually thought i would not be able to loot..that rancor did way more dmg imo)

it seems if u get in close, he takes out his anti-sob stick(halo 2 hehe) and puts the hurt on u(pistols...ouch..i feel for u)


Message Edited by justplainzero on 10-20-2005 12:49 AM

DiamondJoeQuimby
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:51 pm
#65

3 out of 3 boss marks waxed me. I didn't log the first two but the third I was hitting for a measley 743; which with the regeneration on him I was barely making headway. I have CM 3000 but seven shots at 515, 1057, 589, 1365, 434, 359,1270 and I was a corpse.



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