Bounty Hunter Archive

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Epichistonian wrote:

I really don't see what is wrong with house-sitting. Anybody can do it, but because it takes a couple minutes of a BH's time, we need to find a solution for a problem that doesn't exist to introduce bugs into a game that really doesn't need anymore.

Also, there is already a reward..... kind've. If you're not in your house, you're out gaining exp, enjoying content, pvp'ing, etc.

If you're in your house..... you're just kind've there..... doing absolutely nothing worthwhile.

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/agree

Want a good solution for them to quite hiding? Get rid of the XP loss. It doesn't stop them from going full temp if they want to, but it does create resentment against BH's. I guarentee you would have little to no jedi running from you if that ever got changed and there would be little to no house sitting.

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mindspat wrote:

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Zekk- wrote:

forcing players in agame to do anything they dont want to due to another players wishesshould be wrong. Thye force pvp, if i need to go to the store for 15 mins and not logout its my choice, you gte my mission, wellsorry, deal. My BH toon does hunt jedi too, and ive gotten house sitters, and oh well i wasted 2 droids and 5 minutes. Ive wasted far longer in this game before.

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...and the whinners continue to troll - "boo hoo i can do what evar i want 2 and u cant stop me!!!!" Just what we're looking for.

Can you post something constructive? I'll bet your IQ might even increase by one point.

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Making posts about forcing someone out of their house because it's not fun for the bh is constructive?

Some people wont be happy until they have a button someone else presses for them which instantly warps the mark right infront of them incapped and db's for them.

YOur hunting real players, not some d!psh!t computer that has so little intelligence it couldn't outwit a two year old.

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SWG_Miriam wrote:

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iskareot wrote:

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SioBabble wrote:

How about BHs start acting like BHs and stop acting like J3deye?

How's that for starters.

Drop the damn mission, get on with your life.

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Exactly.. man a guy with the right answer......

If I want to sit in my house and make sabers til Im blue in the face I will. If I want to come outside I will, some BH that is mad about me being in a house will get over it. EACH SERVER has at least 500 Jedi so Im sure there is enough for him to do other then to grief that one player.

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this is not the right answer. oftentimes it takes over an hour just to find a jedi who isn't in a house AFK. the jedi do this as a form of griefing. frankly, this is the EXACT reason why i have no problem jedi who are AFK grinding or LD out in the open. honestly, if jedi did not grief bounty hunters by making them waste their time tracking jedi down to a private structure, then i wouldn't be killing AFK or LD jedi.

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So wait, now because the jedi is making him/herself a difficult target it's griefing?

And the bh is interfering and possibly making the jedi's gamplay unfun butisn't griefing the jedi because the jedi agreed to being hunted when they become jedi?

Oh but who's making the bh hunt the jedi for hours?

No one?

So, what's the problem?

I dunno about you but if the bh can't catch up to the jedi it's one person's fault, and we can cross out the jedi.

So, we supposed to make it easy for the bh? I don't think so, they want to kill me they gotta work for it. I personally like to look at the insults of pu$$y, and come out n00b so i can pwn you insults when i'm cloaked(usually for a min or two). It makes seeing their dead corpse so much funnier.

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ktanner3 wrote:
Want a good solution for them to quite hiding? Get rid of the XP loss. It doesn't stop them from going full temp if they want to, but it does create resentment against BH's. I guarentee you would have little to no jedi running from you if that ever got changed and there would be little to no house sitting.

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No, while it solve your afk jedi problem possibly jedi is already a joke to lvl as it is. Lets not make that problem worse.

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ktanner3 wrote:
Want a good solution for them to quite hiding? Get rid of the XP loss. It doesn't stop them from going full temp if they want to, but it does create resentment against BH's. I guarentee you would have little to no jedi running from you if that ever got changed and there would be little to no house sitting.

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This would change EVERYTHING.

Because there is no decay in PvP (supposedly...but there are bugs) a lot of Jedi wouldn't mind losing, because the original purpose of BHs hunting Jedi was tossed out the door when permadeath died. The idea was to keep the high level population of Jedi very low by killing them off when early in their advancement, making achieving a full power Jedi (not full template, Jedi didn't have skills the way everyone else did) very difficult and time consuming.

Now, though, the penalty for dying to a BH (created to prevent BHs and Jedi exploiting the system to raise cash) is severe enough that Jedi will take any steps necessary, "giefing" a BH or no, to avoid a fight that low level paddies will probalby lose.

Take away the XP loss, and it won't have the same sting. Jedi will be more likely to engage BHs.

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mindspat wrote:

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Mindwerkz wrote:

not sure why every post has to turn into a pissing contest but what ever. For the jedi that are trolling here, perhaps you should read the title of the thread. I know reading and not flaming isnt what jedi do, hence the flaming. Were talking about afk jedi here. If you want to sit in your house and babble to your friends so be it, you dont apply to the conversation. If you want to run to the store while being afk, well then you do apply. Lets keep on topic, and stop whining, put forth something constructive if you choose to say anything at all.

I would have to compleatly agree with the majority of bh'ers that simply say take them off the terms if they are afk just as being offline. Solves the problem for everyone. Bh dont have a bunch of afk jedi flooding the terms. If you go afk you go off the terms, if you hit a key you come back, however other things should break it too, like combat. Because as it is I can target someone with follow, hit an assist macro, and boom, im afk yet still gaining exp while playing with my glow stick. So really any keystroke or targeted action by the player. On the other hand any non afk player should be attackable at all times. goes with the territory. Being hunted is a penelty for vis, you gained the vis, and theirfore you pay the price. Being in a house is a tricky issue however that I need to think more on before I can come up with a good answer. But as stated afk jedi are the issue here, not at the keyboard ones.

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Very solid post! I'm glad to see someone can read.

And yes, the similarity in forum ID's is a pure coincidence.

Also, I do not play a BH. My main. which is the only character I play, is a Jedi.

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Um.... quoted from above:

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I don't feel that Jedi should be given any penatlies for being in a private house too long. They pay their $15 just like we do. However, I do think that if a Jedi is IN a private structure for more than a specified time.... 10min AFK, 25min AFK? that their mission should be removed from the terminal as if they were offline.

The AFK system would need to be reworked a bit in order to do this though. Currenlty the system seems to interpret macro'd actions as being "at the keyboard." The system could be reworked to act similar to windows AFK screen saver activation: the system does not care what you are doing, ie processes, computing, etc. If you do not physically strike a key or move the mouse for a specified amount of time, the system goes into AFK mode - different depending on your settings.

But the basis of idea is there. The SWG AFK system COULD be changed to make only a keystroke or mouse movement "valid" authentication that someone is actually at the keyboard, physically playing in the game.

Ok, everyone seems to focus on the refernce to a "penalty" and are actually overlooking the "reward" to prevent AFK house sitters. We all need to remain unbiased here. It's not about them or us as much as it is about a solid and engaging gaming experiance.

What type of "Encouragement" or "Reward" would someone feel is fair to encourage Jedi to _NOT_ "house sit afk"?

Let's poke some fun at what minor thing could be beneficial to cause a Jedi to think "Oh no, I can't stay logged in while afk cause I'll be wasting my <beneficial reward>!!!"

I really wish this issue would just die out. Get rid of AFK macros so we are not inconvenienced to go get another mission? What about all the other players who will be inconvenienced basically because we're lazy?

Not all jedi are afk just to inconvenience BH's. Most of the time they aren't even thinking about us that much and don't want to. Many of them have things to do in real life like myself. I am afk on my jedi sometimes. I am afk on my BH sometimes. I have a right to do it on either one. Yes there are very few jedi who actually bother to be afk in houses just cause a BH is after them. There are players that go out of their way to make life difficult for others, regardless of profession. They are not all jedi.

Anyone that calls being afk in a house griefing should take a good look. We are the only profession that can legally grief another player. That's fine. I chose the role to play as a hunted jedi. I chose the role I play as a BH. Both have inconveniences just like every other profession in the game. I deal with both of them. The request to rid the game of afk macros just for our benefit willtick off a lot of other people playing this game, and will only prove what I'm slowly growing to believe: that the endless, selfish complaints of both jedi and BH are constantly backlashing into the rest of the game, bringing it to the point where it is no longer fun to play.

*edited my post to keep things a little cleaner*

Message Edited by Reikus on 10-25-2005 12:44 PM

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SioBabble wrote:

How about BHs start acting like BHs and stop acting like J3deye?

How's that for starters.

Drop the damn mission, get on with your life.

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Exactly.. man a guy with the right answer......

If I want to sit in my house and make sabers til Im blue in the face I will. If I want to come outside I will, some BH that is mad about me being in a house will get over it. EACH SERVER has at least 500 Jedi so Im sure there is enough for him to do other then to grief that one player.

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mindspat wrote:

(please do not focus on a penalty - remain unbiased - look at creating a reward for Jedi to _NOT_ house sit afk.)

If anyone had an idea that was fair, engaging and encouraging for a Jedi to NOT stay logged in while AFK throughout the entire day what would it be.

Please do not post stuff like "have CSR spawn them", "give BH th eability to break in" "etc..."

Let's think outside the box on this one:

Force cost multiplyier to increase every 3 hours of activity so Jedi spend more force per ability and require access and meditation at a ForceShrine to nullify this penalty? ( I play a Jedi I would welcome this.)

Any other ideas?

*Edit: Let's poke some fun at what minor thing could be beneficial to cause a Jedi to think "Oh no, I can't stay logged in while afk cause I'll be wasting my !!!"

/discuss

Message Edited by mindspat on 10-25-200512:40 PM

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I am a Jedi.
I am a BH (pre-SP change, post SP Change, Post CU)
I am a crafter.
I am a social creature.

There is absolutely no justification for ANY penalty tied to being inside a structure. None what so ever.

Sure, it can be annoying to reach a mark and he/she is inside. Oh darn. What do you really lose? An arakyd, 1-3 seekers, and up to 1800 credits in travel fees, if you dont have JTLS. Absolute max youve lost 10k, and I am tired of people trying to make that into some big deal and their reason for wanting the ability to remove/punish people for being in a building. If 10k is that important to you, pull a NPC mission and kill it, 3 8k mobs later, bammo 10k in less time it took you to travel to the house in the first place.

The only FAIR thing is to find a way to not have us BH waste our time in the first place.