Bounty Hunter Archive

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ShaikeRamjet wrote:

As long as I don't hunt a Cloaker, I have no problems. Go post on the Wanderhome boards and ask them if I'm a competent BH. I think you will be surprised to find out that after being one for 2 years, I might actually know what I am talking about.

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ShaikeRamjet wrote:

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Jacella wrote:

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ShaikeRamjet wrote:

A cloaker should not be able to use any other force powers while cloaked, especially force regen. They can stay perpetually cloaked. The other night, I was in a PvP battle where a cloaked Jedi was using an exploit to attack me while cloaked. If he were not allowed to use any powers while cloaked, this exploit wouldn't happen.

As cloak is, it is way too overpowering. I can track my bounty and as soon as I attack from range, he cloaks and is gone. The jedi then can force regen, pop a bunch of food and hit his Booster Blue... and I no longer have first strike capabilities. It was stated by the devs that what makes a BH able to be 1vs1 with a full temp Jedi is our first strike capabilities. If that is taken away from us... then what do we have?

Bottom line is... a Jedi should not be able to use force powers while cloaked.

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Whaa! Want a blankie?

Cloak isn't overpowering, you just need to know how to attack them.

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Wow... what a moron. First, you can't target a cloaked Jedi. Second, you can't attack a target if you can not get a target on them. Before you question my intelligence on how to fight a Jedi, maybe you should look at when I started playing the damn game. I've been a Bounty Hunter since August of '03.

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Did you see where they were when they cloaked? Burst run there! Use your friggin droids! Sheese, how did you survive this long without knowing how to get around cloak? No, it isn't like before when you could use a DE-10 and eyeshot to 1 or 2 shot kill a knight, but it really isn't as difficult as you make it sound. It takes tactics and knowing how a jedi thinks.

Maybe you should read my last post.

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ShaikeRamjet wrote:

A cloaker should not be able to use any other force powers while cloaked, especially force regen. They can stay perpetually cloaked. The other night, I was in a PvP battle where a cloaked Jedi was using an exploit to attack me while cloaked. If he were not allowed to use any powers while cloaked, this exploit wouldn't happen.

As cloak is, it is way too overpowering. I can track my bounty and as soon as I attack from range, he cloaks and is gone. The jedi then can force regen, pop a bunch of food and hit his Booster Blue... and I no longer have first strike capabilities. It was stated by the devs that what makes a BH able to be 1vs1 with a full temp Jedi is our first strike capabilities. If that is taken away from us... then what do we have?

Bottom line is... a Jedi should not be able to use force powers while cloaked.

Flame away.

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By the same logic:
Combat Medics should not be allowed to do anything when they paralyze you. No healing, no debuffs, no regen, they can only walk/run around.

Besides, you let him out of your 20M radius... Its your fault he cloaked. You are a carbiner, you got more then adequate means to stop him from doing so.

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ShaikeRamjet wrote:
Maybe you should read my last post.

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Saw it, now I am even more concerned about your ability. You need the skills from some of these other skills. I have a MBH/MP/Smuggler 4000, and I am finding that without heals, I am getting smoked by finished templates. I am going to have to adjust and change to adapt. Cloakers are easy, when you know what to look for. I am not saying that they don't get away sometimes, but they aren't impossible.

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ShaikeRamjet wrote:

The Jedi knew I was their only after the first shot. The Jedi actually waited until I was about to leave... I pull out my speeder and as soon as I pulled it out, he decloaked and destroyed my speeder and then attacked me. As soon as I start gaining the upper hand he cloaks again... and force regens. He can keep that up indefinitely. There is no way to win against it. He can't kill me, I definitely can't kill him... so I have to abort the mission.

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Your own words...you got first strike....wt*f do you want? For the jedi to not be able to fight back?

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Morthon wrote:
Just saw a jedi go into AH, cloaked, get agro'd by the npcs then run out town with them in tow. He then proceed to kill them with forcepowers including choke, without ever uncloaking. Not cool

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You are full of poop.

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ShaikeRamjet wrote:

A cloaker should not be able to use any other force powers while cloaked, especially force regen. They can stay perpetually cloaked. The other night, I was in a PvP battle where a cloaked Jedi was using an exploit to attack me while cloaked. If he were not allowed to use any powers while cloaked, this exploit wouldn't happen.

As cloak is, it is way too overpowering. I can track my bounty and as soon as I attack from range, he cloaks and is gone. The jedi then can force regen, pop a bunch of food and hit his Booster Blue... and I no longer have first strike capabilities. It was stated by the devs that what makes a BH able to be 1vs1 with a full temp Jedi is our first strike capabilities. If that is taken away from us... then what do we have?

Bottom line is... a Jedi should not be able to use force powers while cloaked.

Flame away.

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you are an idiot. your arguement is all over the place. first you complain that a cloaker while in pvp attacked you which you say is an exploit. fine. i agree. then why does it compell you to ask for a change of cloak so that it affects everyone including people who do not exploit? if you were upset about the exploit, then deal with it by reporting it.

then you jump and argue that BHs main advantage is first strike. whether a jedi has cloak or not, u still have that advantage. if you are stalking a cloaked jedi, you still can choose when to fight. believe me, a cloaked jedi cannot stay cloaked forever. when he appears, attack him and stay within 20m. its not that hard to prevent a cloaker from using his abilities. maybe if you took the time to think about ways to beat someone rather than complain, you would have figured it out by now. you are probably thinking that you need to stay beyond 32m so you can stay out of his range. well guess what? dont you think that if you nerf cloak, it is alittle overpowering for non jedi to attack beyond 32m while a jedi cannot? if you can maintain that distance, we are utterly helpless. what is a jedi supposed to do at that point? should we just go prone and let you kill us?

keep in mind that cloak doesnt allow us to attack. similar to force run which has a damage reduction, cloak has no offensive capabilities other than surprise. and now you are asking for more reduction of other skills? you might as well ask for a deathstar schematic since you will probably make a stronger case for one bacause right now you have none and you are nothing more than an idiotic whinner who is used to having his way and is upset that someone exploited at your expense. ill light a candle for your loss and buy you a pack of kleenex for you. happy?

i am tired of this community since it is all about how can i make myself better while i keep my equals below me...seriously.

go scream nerf to another profession that hasnt had one in awhile...try CMs or Docs.

Message Edited by SeraphDauthi on 07-22-2005 12:52 AM

Message Edited by SeraphDauthi on 07-22-2005 12:54 AM

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Jargal wrote:

Yeah, I agree. I had one mark that was cloaked over half an hour before he went inside of his house and logged.

I could only track him around, keeping him from grinding and getting xp thou.

But cloak sure needs a timer (2min tops) and high force cost too. They shouldnt be able to do anything else then normal movement or the cloak should break, as it is for riflemans /cover.

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yes, since they went to rifleman village, ground out novice rifleman (normal xp converted 1:30), then killed 2 level 85+ rifleman npc, and ground even more xp to master. makes complete sense.

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ShaikeRamjet wrote:

A cloaker should not be able to use any other force powers while cloaked, especially force regen. They can stay perpetually cloaked.

A Bounty Hunter should not use any other profession skills while hunting jedi. They can They can stay perpetually self healed/in cover/use pets/use pistoleer's root. BH's ability to use other professions is overpowered. MBH should cost 250 skillpoints. Oh, and BHs shouldn't use foods too. Just because I don't like them to, they should starve to death.

Bottom line is: Bounty Hunter should not use any non-bh abilities while hunting jedi.

Ok, seriously, how do you feel when insluted like that, and when other people aske for your profession being nerfed? Doesn't feel good, does it? Just bonk it in your head that jedi don't exist just for you, noob bh. If you don't know how to hunt jedi, then go image designer and leave us alone.

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ShaikeRamjet wrote:

A cloaker should not be able to use any other force powers while cloaked, especially force regen. They can stay perpetually cloaked. The other night, I was in a PvP battle where a cloaked Jedi was using an exploit to attack me while cloaked. If he were not allowed to use any powers while cloaked, this exploit wouldn't happen.

As cloak is, it is way too overpowering. I can track my bounty and as soon as I attack from range, he cloaks and is gone. The jedi then can force regen, pop a bunch of food and hit his Booster Blue... and I no longer have first strike capabilities. It was stated by the devs that what makes a BH able to be 1vs1 with a full temp Jedi is our first strike capabilities. If that is taken away from us... then what do we have?

Bottom line is... a Jedi should not be able to use force powers while cloaked.

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wow another noob bh complaining

learn to use the sneaky tactics and learn to catch your bounty of gaurd noobs

Message Edited by egazmen on 07-22-2005 03:08 AM

How is cloak 'overpowered'? You yourselves say that you can follow a jedi around and prevent him from getting xp. Cloak comes at a severe cost of offense and defense lines. Its the prefered method for jedi that don't get involved in combat. The ones that cloak all day long are the ones you should like. They are the ones that don't get involved in GCW. They don't go using LS's in starports, etc. The keep to themselves and hide all the time like they should. Go hunt a Jedi that is so overt that a nuna knows he's a jedi. Nerf, Nerf, Nerf...that's all you ever have for answers.

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SeraphDauthi wrote:

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ShaikeRamjet wrote:

A cloaker should not be able to use any other force powers while cloaked, especially force regen. They can stay perpetually cloaked. The other night, I was in a PvP battle where a cloaked Jedi was using an exploit to attack me while cloaked. If he were not allowed to use any powers while cloaked, this exploit wouldn't happen.

As cloak is, it is way too overpowering. I can track my bounty and as soon as I attack from range, he cloaks and is gone. The jedi then can force regen, pop a bunch of food and hit his Booster Blue... and I no longer have first strike capabilities. It was stated by the devs that what makes a BH able to be 1vs1 with a full temp Jedi is our first strike capabilities. If that is taken away from us... then what do we have?

Bottom line is... a Jedi should not be able to use force powers while cloaked.

Flame away.

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you are an idiot. your arguement is all over the place. first you complain that a cloaker while in pvp attacked you which you say is an exploit. fine. i agree. then why does it compell you to ask for a change of cloak so that it affects everyone including people who do not exploit? if you were upset about the exploit, then deal with it by reporting it.

then you jump and argue that BHs main advantage is first strike. whether a jedi has cloak or not, u still have that advantage. if you are stalking a cloaked jedi, you still can choose when to fight. believe me, a cloaked jedi cannot stay cloaked forever. when he appears, attack him and stay within 20m. its not that hard to prevent a cloaker from using his abilities. maybe if you took the time to think about ways to beat someone rather than complain, you would have figured it out by now. you are probably thinking that you need to stay beyond 32m so you can stay out of his range. well guess what? dont you think that if you nerf cloak, it is alittle overpowering for non jedi to attack beyond 32m while a jedi cannot? if you can maintain that distance, we are utterly helpless. what is a jedi supposed to do at that point? should we just go prone and let you kill us?

keep in mind that cloak doesnt allow us to attack. similar to force run which has a damage reduction, cloak has no offensive capabilities other than surprise. and now you are asking for more reduction of other skills? you might as well ask for a deathstar schematic since you will probably make a stronger case for one bacause right now you have none and you are nothing more than an idiotic whinner who is used to having his way and is upset that someone exploited at your expense. ill light a candle for your loss and buy you a pack of kleenex for you. happy?

i am tired of this community since it is all about how can i make myself better while i keep my equals below me...seriously.

go scream nerf to another profession that hasnt had one in awhile...try CMs or Docs.

Message Edited by SeraphDauthi on 07-22-2005 12:52 AM

Message Edited by SeraphDauthi on 07-22-2005 12:54 AM

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