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I think you all need to calm the F down in here. I am a longtime Mpowers Jedi, and have done extensive cloak testing.

First off. Cloak Breaks when using powers. I know of 2 instances where I did not uncloak when casting. It appears to be a bug.
Second. I am also a avid BH. A cloaker jedi can only cloak when 20+ mtrs from any npc or player which is difficult in group pvp due to fighting in cities and lag.
Third, cloak has a force drain associated with the amount of people around you. With more than 2 people you start ticking and it gets very costly standing around more and more people.

Lastly, I am sorry that the Devs vision is not to have us jedi standing around with one point of health with a perma root on, wearing a sign that says BOUNTY HUNTER, YOUR CONTENT IS HERE..DO not Run By, PLEASE SHOOT.

Also with 80mtr arms, a root and burst run, you can pretty much stick any cloaker jedi in his place.. If you cant than you SUCK as a bounty hunter and are an embarassment to the Profession.

^^ As a mpowers jedi does it bother you that dabblers get cloak?

Cloak is fine for the stealth it provides or regenerating while cloaked, but first strike I think not. You should have to decloak and have an appropriate cooldown timer 3+secs before attacking.

Message Edited by ALARIA on 07-21-2005 08:31 PM

Pfeh true there are ways around it... true its not an I win button. But cloaking is a cowardly way to play I would just drop a mission on a cloaking jedi and not bother... go searching for a jedi with the confidence to stand toe to toe.

Just saw a jedi go into AH, cloaked, get agro'd by the npcs then run out town with them in tow. He then proceed to kill them with forcepowers including choke, without ever uncloaking. Not cool

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ShaikeRamjet wrote:

A cloaker should not be able to use any other force powers while cloaked, especially force regen. They can stay perpetually cloaked. The other night, I was in a PvP battle where a cloaked Jedi was using an exploit to attack me while cloaked. If he were not allowed to use any powers while cloaked, this exploit wouldn't happen.

As cloak is, it is way too overpowering. I can track my bounty and as soon as I attack from range, he cloaks and is gone. The jedi then can force regen, pop a bunch of food and hit his Booster Blue... and I no longer have first strike capabilities. It was stated by the devs that what makes a BH able to be 1vs1 with a full temp Jedi is our first strike capabilities. If that is taken away from us... then what do we have?

Bottom line is... a Jedi should not be able to use force powers while cloaked.

Flame away.

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As the jedi involved in this incident (pvp battle, that is), I couldn't agree more. I didn't even realize I was exploiting till towards the end of the battle (heck, I wasn't even paying attention to my buff bar at all...I still had FR3 on, hehe). Point of the matter is, this can go off when people least expect it AS WELL as someone intentionally doing it.

The more I hear about (and take part in) the bad things involved with this skill, the more I opt to have it just totally removed from the profession. I would rather have force wielder be tuned to actually being a "Force Wielder" than just a cloaker.

first off... not every jedi has cloak.. u give up way too many useful skill points to obtain cloak so there will be plenty of jedi to hunt that don't have cloak, and for the ones that do... move on...

2nd... why would we take jedi powers away while cloaked?? There are many ways around this that would NOT envolve removing jedi abilities while cloaked... put the timer in for attack after the cloak is released... I don't see any rifleman with a timer after they drop cover then attack and last I checked it was a heck of alot easier to become a master rifleman... Please guys... stop the nerf bat!

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ShaikeRamjet wrote:

A cloaker should not be able to use any other force powers while cloaked, especially force regen. They can stay perpetually cloaked. The other night, I was in a PvP battle where a cloaked Jedi was using an exploit to attack me while cloaked. If he were not allowed to use any powers while cloaked, this exploit wouldn't happen.

As cloak is, it is way too overpowering. I can track my bounty and as soon as I attack from range, he cloaks and is gone. The jedi then can force regen, pop a bunch of food and hit his Booster Blue... and I no longer have first strike capabilities. It was stated by the devs that what makes a BH able to be 1vs1 with a full temp Jedi is our first strike capabilities. If that is taken away from us... then what do we have?

Bottom line is... a Jedi should not be able to use force powers while cloaked.

Flame away.

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Using Attacks while cloaked is a bug and Cloak is one of powers very few good skills.

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ShaikeRamjet wrote:

A cloaker should not be able to use any other force powers while cloaked, especially force regen. They can stay perpetually cloaked. The other night, I was in a PvP battle where a cloaked Jedi was using an exploit to attack me while cloaked. If he were not allowed to use any powers while cloaked, this exploit wouldn't happen.

As cloak is, it is way too overpowering. I can track my bounty and as soon as I attack from range, he cloaks and is gone. The jedi then can force regen, pop a bunch of food and hit his Booster Blue... and I no longer have first strike capabilities. It was stated by the devs that what makes a BH able to be 1vs1 with a full temp Jedi is our first strike capabilities. If that is taken away from us... then what do we have?

Bottom line is... a Jedi should not be able to use force powers while cloaked.

Flame away.

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WE CANT, at least not any offensive powers the only power that will not uncloak you are healing and channel and force transfer. If a jedi was attacking you while cloaked then he was exploiting, as far as losing first strike ability i dont see what you mean. you still have first strike. any jedi worth thier salt will hit a macro that will take food,spices activate thier defensive macros etc, if they have stasis or maybe some rifle or other ranged skills they will root you and do the same as you state this jedi did with cloak, heal take food prepare themselves etc, so i dont see how cloak is the issue here, please elaborate.

So... because I chose not to be the same template as every one else, I SUCK as a BH? I don't have a root, I don't have rifles, so even with both cyber arms, which I do not use, I would not be able to get an 80m range. To top that all off with, my defense allows me to get with in melee range and still "tank" most Jedi. The problem here is the force running out and then cloaking. The Jedi that did this also had Stasis... which breaks on damage, right? Well, they hit you with stasis, they force run out of range, they cloak. They squat down and they force regen while I am stuck in stasis and they are cloaked.

As long as I don't hunt a Cloaker, I have no problems. Go post on the Wanderhome boards and ask them if I'm a competent BH. I think you will be surprised to find out that after being one for 2 years, I might actually know what I am talking about.

Because I don't have a root, I use a KD or a snare to begin with. I lay a bleed on them while they are KD. I hit with critical and leg shots. I alternate using a special with just using ranged shot to conserve action in case I get knocked down. I stay on the move, yet I don't care if I'm out of melee range or not. If they are having to worry about moving and fighting at the same time, they are more likely to make a mistake.

The problem isn't that I lose to these Jedi. The problem is that I end up having to delete the mission becuase they end up cloaking and getting away or they cloak, decloak and blow up my speeder with a saber throw, then cloak again. I follow them until they decide to either log or fight back. If I fight them, they do the same tactics... fight until their force is low, then they Stasis, cloak, force regen, then fight some more, then when their force gets low again... they recycle what they did before. They might as well have unlimited force if they are going to do this.

dont blame the skill bro, blame the guys that use the exploit. there's more then a few moves that are bugged so they can be exploited but u dont say remove/nerf the skill, u say fix the bug man.