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Thread: Update for Jedi-Guide for soling a Jedi knight with MCM/MBH/pistoleer 0004

gnometoes
Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:32 am
#53

You guys have got to be kidding ... having two very different fully templated jediand a long term pvp'er, I can assure you i would have you dispatched before you even got halfway though your plan.


Good luck.
Laney_1uk
Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:46 am
#54


You guys have got to be kidding ... having two very different fully templated jediand a long term pvp'er, I can assure you i would have you dispatched before you even got halfway though your plan.


Good luck.

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Like to see you do that paralysed lol. But yes different templates differnt tactics. But generally jedi have the same old template, lotta defender and mls. Either way I don't kill every jedi but i get my fair share
Lethian_Tulkhas
Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:03 am
#55

i cant be soloed get over it



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yurylightmist
Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:12 pm
#56

come after me with that temp,and your plan will fall apart fast. Its gonna be funny seeing bh try this stuff. CM are easy to beat, you just have to know the ancient secret of mind drain. cuz CM poisons and debuffs cost alot.
Yoiaholic1
Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:15 pm
#57

This stragegy assumes that the jedi has no pvp experience what so ever and that he does not counter your debuffs with his own pvp foods. If this is the case you might kill him, however I have not been killed one on one since I've become full template or even since I had one mastery. I get 2-3 BH everyday and they (even this template) are lucky to last more than 1 minute.


With aura on, you can't damage me. In fact with my basic infusion I usually never need to heal in a fight. Maybe a stim or a force heal if I miss my aura timer. CM has SUCH a low damage potential that I laugh at you trying to wear me down. I mean do you really expect to outlast me because I hit for 800 and you hit for 200?


Anyway, I'd say the full template jedi that you do beat probably are lacking pvp experience or a decent template. With fr1 and aura, you can't kite me and you can'tdamage me, combined with my foods I'm deadly. And I never apply any of these until the bh hits me. My buff macro probably scares them when I go from defenseless to fully buffed/aura'd up.


The only time I had a fight which I was vulernable came when I forgot about aura for about half of the fight I had to heal oftenand my mind was nearly gone. But when I got it back on I could have stood there until my mind came back.



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Soulcaster
Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:25 am
#58



Well i think its a good PvP temp, anda great Jedi hunting temp as well. I have killed my fair share of jedi (fulltemped) and honestly the ONLY reason why I die to jedi is because of lag, the KD bug or because i dont have armor break sliced armor because im too lazy to get it. I have a full padded set that has 6k resist to all.


My fire does 200someting dmg every 3 seconds, I can heal for 1200 hp pts every 2 or 3 seconds + my 1100 health stimpacks every 30 seconds...and my pistol (scatter) does 450-1200dmg per hit (pupped), or 450-950 ifi want to use my SAC pup, and then i have 53 SAC instead of 78. So i dont do no "200 dmg against your 800", to the jedi that said that.


Having fought probably every full temped jedi template in the game, i can still say that jedi are of course stronger....and well they should be! But you guys are NOT unbeatable. Every fight is different, and goes a different way. I would really wish the jedi in this game would act like jedi and not like immature kids that have "uber" characters and just "pwn" everyone and talk trash, or just have huge egos. (/rolleyes)

Message Edited by Soulcaster on 08-23-2005 08:27 AM



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rYsyn
Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:30 am
#59






Laney_1uk wrote:



Right not most people say they can't be solo'ed, well they certainly can. Here's how,


I don't usually sneak around I just run in shooting. Get a buff eat mind and action food. Ride up close on bike as fast as I can 64 m for meand hop off and store right away. Then open up with kd and crit / QUICKDRAW (no dots yet as they will break paralyse). While opening up with these three attacks lower the range by walking towards the jedi(I start with a rifle and drop to pistol at 40m for less action cost with a sac'ed pup. Once you get within melee range Paralyse, then thyroid (most important skill), snare and if you get the chance trauma (if not make sure youapply this state). Thenkd, crit shot and torso shot (bleed)and the jedi's speed, movement (possibly forcing him to keep fr on and draining force) and mind regen are almost nothing.


So now you have a jedi hurting, and debuffed, now for the dots. Now Stop shot and apply fire and poison dots, Now you problem here would be if the jedi has root and a good saber. If this should happen get steak in you fast (low fill stuff to mitigate damage), eat melee defence foodand apply dualist stance (ride it out). If the jedi doesn't have root then you should be able to hold off the range for a while. Should he not have fr or root he one dead jedi usually (love fighting MD, MLS, healer 3000, enhancer 0002). NOW remember guys its not about force now, its about mind. Forget about running his force out (it is possible but not as effective) GO for the mind as killing a jedi's health to 0 is almost impossible to do by nuking damage now. If you can keep up the damage and the dots the jedi will have to heal and with trauma will eat his mind fast. Once jedi's mind is lowered to 0 he can't heal and is one dead jedi.


Now during this remember to keep foodsand most importantly states applied. I use ruby bile for these close encounters and root moments and when the states run out use burst run (if not already used) to run in and state straff.


All in all this tatic works for me and i've solo'ed many knights. Only ones that give me a problem is the ones with perfect sabers that hit me for 936 a pop and 1500 with armor break applied.


Good luck

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Good post, but I don't think anyone is saying you cannot take a Knight. What they are saying is you have to at least have 1 tree in CM (if not master CM) and you have to hope they don't have a Pre-CU saber (who knows what will happen when the pearls change) and that youhave a Jedi that is willing to fight and not cloak and/or flee.





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KurwaMac
Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:00 am
#60

/bump
Laney_1uk
Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:24 pm
#61

Anyway, I'd say the full template jedi that you do beat probably are lacking pvp experience or a decent template. With fr1 and aura, you can't kite me and you can'tdamage me, combined with my foods I'm deadly. And I never apply any of these until the bh hits me. My buff macro probably scares them when I go from defenseless to fully buffed/aura'd up.


The only time I had a fight which I was vulernable came when I forgot about aura for about half of the fight I had to heal oftenand my mind was nearly gone. But when I got it back on I could have stood there until my mind came back.

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I have beaten a great majority of jedi. Some lacking experience and some good pvp'ers. I have even been told by jedi that i've but up one ofthe best fights on the server and atm i'm using 5600 resist armor and no ab slice. I do very well with this template and stand my groud far more easily than most MR or MP as i can thyroid rupture
Laney_1uk
Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:07 am
#62



Well i think its a good PvP temp, anda great Jedi hunting temp as well. I have killed my fair share of jedi (fulltemped) and honestly the ONLY reason why I die to jedi is because of lag, the KD bug or because i dont have armor break sliced armor because im too lazy to get it. I have a full padded set that has 6k resist to all.


My fire does 200someting dmg every 3 seconds, I can heal for 1200 hp pts every 2 or 3 seconds + my 1100 health stimpacks every 30 seconds...and my pistol (scatter) does 450-1200dmg per hit (pupped), or 450-950 ifi want to use my SAC pup, and then i have 53 SAC instead of 78. So i dont do no "200 dmg against your 800", to the jedi that said that.


Having fought probably every full temped jedi template in the game, i can still say that jedi are of course stronger....and well they should be! But you guys are NOT unbeatable. Every fight is different, and goes a different way. I would really wish the jedi in this game would act like jedi and not like immature kids that have "uber" characters and just "pwn" everyone and talk trash, or just have huge egos. (/rolleyes)


Message Edited by Soulcaster on 08-23-2005 08:27 AM


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Good post and you scatter seems a very good one. I have one that does 1200 damage to and most I hit a defender for (not a MDEF)is about 550 with kd and critical. Granted they are supposed to be tough, thats why i LOVE it. Takinig away a jedi's confidence is what i live for. HAd one the other day screaming I'm going to pwn you when I get buffed up. I waited he left the house and after a 10 min fight i drained his mind and he ran crying like a girly. BEST bit was he was infront of all his mates and the noobs of Mos Eisely on flurry, so embarrasing lol. To top it off i got 1000 noobs all wanting to be BH's to shouting my name in the streets and cheering wildely. In 2 weeks he'll have 1000 more BH's like me kicking his butt.


Man felt like a million bucks that day (J/K)


However I also got made a chump of the other day by 2 jedi lol. Glad nobody saw that



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Soulcaster
Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:21 am
#63

Yeah see thats what im talking about. That BS "counterstrike" talk (as I like to call it), where jedi do just that, and run around doing /rotfl "pwned!!!! HAHAH OMFG U SUCK!!"


That stuff is just uncalled for. 1st off, taking the movies at face value, you wont see any jedi doing any of this crap. And i think people with jedi should act like jedi, and personally i think something should be done about jedi that act out of character. I dont mean they need to RP, but i dont think 16 year old kids (or maybe even immature 20+ year olds) should be unlocking jedi and just looking to "pwn n3wbs".


While i think your post about the jedi shouting how he was going to "OMFG, I'll own u when i get buffed"...was halarious. It also is depressing becase this is how 60% (id say) of the jedi that I see and fight, ACTUALLY act. And they talk trash and run away? This isn't star wars anymore, this is becoming people just making "uber" characters so they can PvP and talk trash and kill everyone and call them noobs. Thats why SOE is nerfing everythign probably. If the most respected and elite profession in the game is being taken over by immature players, then why should SOE care what they do to the game. Thats also probably why Lucas Arts is very unpleased with the Jedi population right now and the way they flaunt their powers and fight in front of starports etc.


And back to the "noobs" thing...I can't tell you how many times i've been called a noob. Its really out of hand. I have been playing for 10 Months now since publish 11, and the other day this "actual newb" (CL63) who just got the game, was in my hunting group and we were arguing about something...i think it was my pistol stats. And he goes "you dont know anything you newb". And i just had to laugh...why do people call everyone noobs? Like its an insult or something. Ya know what he wanted to do next? To duel. He thought since i was a newb he wanted to brag how he could kill a CL80.


guess how that fight ended up: "kryptis accepts your duel" next thing he knows, he is paralyzed, attack speed slowed, fired, poisoned, KDed, and shot 3 times to death. He gets up and goes WOW. I said yeah. watch u who call newb man. And ya know what i did after that duel? I spent 15min dueling him again and showing him how to use MCM that he was trying to grind for. Hopefully he got some respect after that whole ordeal. But it just bothers me to see everyone calling people newbs and no one helping each other ont he game.





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KurwaMac
Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:56 am
#64

/bump
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Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:50 am
#65

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