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Thread: Friends DBing exploit

HoopyFr00d
Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:51 am
#53






Raganius wrote:





BattleJuicer wrote:
He was already dueling the guy...so what your saying is that if a jedi is dueling another jedi and then a bh attacks him then they are automatically exploiting which is pure nonsense.





No, what he is saying is that the act of the db from his buddy was the exploit. His buddy could have /endduel at anytime, yet he did not. Plus, you don't "accidently" db someone.





OMG, do you read these before you post? I rarely agree with Jedi, but in this case I can find fault only with the logic of the BHs in this forum who are crying exploit.


IF the Jedi was in a duel when the BH attacked, the person the Jedi was dueling has just as much right to the DB as does the BH. Where in the rules does it say that if you are dueling a Jedi, and a BH shows up to collect the bounty on that Jedi, that you must /endduel andlet the BH and Jedi have their fight? Oh right. NOWHERE.


If the Jedi was already in a duel, this is NOT an exploit, merely a BH who was pissed about his bounty being taken away. It sucks, yes, but it's not in violation of anything.


If the Jedi was not in a duel, I would still say it's not an exploit. A cheap tactic on the part of the Jedi and their friend, but that's all.


Which begs another question that several others here have raised: Why is it ok for us BHs to use cheap tactics but not Jedi?




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stickynugs
Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:01 am
#54

If you want to call his friend wrong for db'ing maybe the bh should have waited for them to end their duel. if he was already fighting then that is a chance the bh is taking. but if a creature would have gotten the db i guess you morons would be calling the creature a exploiter. you people make me laugh.
rLobster
Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:08 am
#55







Stecoli wrote:


its good they got what they deserved, there are too many lame cheating jedi out there who have little skill.


I can honestly say I will not be going back to "MOS Timothy v" on LOK, as this is the third time ive had trouble with you expl0it whores.






The only thing lame here is you Stecoli. You attacked him while he was dueling? That makes you a coward.

I think it awesome that you didn't get your precious kill. Getting your jollies by griefing other people is just uncool. You deserve any "trouble" you get and much more. Maybe if you weren't such a juvenile a$$hat, you could find something better to do with your time.




Message Edited by rLobster on 08-26-2005 02:09 PM




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romanbeef
Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:23 am
#56

face it, you got beat. your tactics were not profitable because of the time you decided to strike.


You hold their mission for three days and it is up to you when to strike, you chose poorly.


It's the life of a Bounty Hunter. Not all of your marks will be there sitting in the kneeling position waiting for a soldier's death.


He got away from another DB. SO? don't cry, get another mission and now that you have learned from this experience. You will not do it again. You now have more experience then you had prior to this event.


Everything is an exploit when it doesn't go someone's way.


it is NOT an exploit. plain and simple. You can call it what you want but you just have to deal with it.


Get up, brush yourself off, grab another mission and do NOT repeat the same thing. You may be lucky and gat their mission again.


The Jedi did nothing wrong. In fact he preserved his assets.


morally is it right? I wouldn't do it personally but it happens.



getting angry about it only hurts yourself.









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Lethian_Tulkhas
Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:37 am
#57

trust me, nobody is suposed to be able to intefere with a BH's mission after he gets TEF, this is an exploit if used on purpose. Otherwise its just a bug that WILL be fixed.



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Raganius
Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:39 am
#58






Lethian_Tulkhas wrote:

trust me, nobody is suposed to be able to intefere with a BH's mission after he gets TEF, this is an exploit if used on purpose. Otherwise its just a bug that WILL be fixed.





This is a very valid point, but until the CSR's or Dev's say otherwise, it's just lame.



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RichB
Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:45 am
#59


KilferfUhn wrote:
I'd consider calling it an exploit IF you did it on purpose. Doesn't seem to be the case here...





I'm not sure how you read that post and not conclude that his friend DBd him to stop the BH from doing it.



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Eleutherios
Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:08 pm
#60

Yeah, that was the 2nd time I killed that Jedi in 2 days. First time I killed him, I took a payout. Then dropped it, got his mission again, killed him. Next day, got it again and this was it (that's why it says I had already bested him in combat and can't get more PvP rating off him.)



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Stecoli
Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:14 pm
#61


its good they got what they deserved, there are too many lame cheating jedi out there who have little skill.


I can honestly say I will not be going back to "MOS Timothy v" on LOK, as this is the third time ive had trouble with you expl0it whores.


hamhamthe3rd
Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:26 pm
#62






InsaneJosh wrote:

easy fix to this...not being able to accept duels when a bh tef is on...i've had several kills stolen do to this bs..





that wont fix anything, as if something was broken. what would such a tef do, automatically end duel if youre attacked by a bh? what if youre overt?


anyway whoever gets the db, good for them. the thing i wish they didnt change with the cu is the xp lost from cloning upon death. the change was necessary early on for several reasons but now i dont think its needed.


now if we had xp lost from dying, ppl would still be able to do this but then the BH can CHOOSE to wait the 30min for the guy to get a rez or not. if hes rezzed, you can quickly kill him, and if hes not then he loses xp when hes forced to auto clone and you keep the mission.
TheGreatFreyr
Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:46 pm
#63






Lethian_Tulkhas wrote:

yes if you are in a duel it should end imeditly the same as when you are in a PVP and are special forces and a BH attacks, suddenly you are TEF'ed and out of the PVP fight and into another one.






now we're talking about flaws in the design not bugs or exploits



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Lethian_Tulkhas
Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:01 pm
#64

if you use a bug or a flaw to your advantage it becomes an exploit. Everyone knows that BH/Jedi become exclusive to each other after the TEF starts. So anyone using a bug or a flaw to get around that TEF is exploiting.



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Lord_Rainius
Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:12 pm
#65






KJFett3 wrote:

The battle between a jedi and a BH is intended to be 1 on 1. Anything done that disrupts that 1 on 1 is not working within the intended process. Doing something intentionally that is not within the intended process of the 1 on 1 is an exploit. If he DBed you knowing he shouldn't (we know he knew he was in the wrong) then yes it was an exploit.


Rule of thumb is this. If you have to ask if its an exploit...it most likely is.





Now that's not true at all!!! The devs don't even consider jedi vs. bh a 1 on 1 deal only. If that were true then 5 bh's would not be able to get a mission for same Jedi. I don't consider it an exploit, but on the other hand I do feel for the bh, cause it's not like a regular mission where you can go knock it out in 5 minutes.



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