Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: what are the jedi so upset about?
Nice idea. You forgot about the second alt character slot. Once SOE removes xp loss for they ebayjedi, the second character slot needs to be deleted soon after.
Maxanto wrote:
I have no problem making jedi like normal toons... but then get rid of exp loss. You make my point perfectly... if exp loss was removed there would be NO outcry.
Message Edited by HeadRoll on 10-21-2005 01:32 PM
koldbones wrote:
Usama wrote:
Rancor Aid does not have to be used before E-Drain is applied. It breaks E-Drain when you drink it. If you take it before, then the CM cannot apply it to you for the 1-2 mins.
CURBhater wrote:
I dont like being snared for 100seconds by e-drain without being to counter it with forcerun like i used to be able to
Thats my only issue with MCM/MBH since now they got their "I win" button.I dont mind the speeddebuff or heal timers,that was fine with me but snare changes pisses me off
And oh ye,that food only lasts like 1-2minute and has to be applied BEFORE you get e-drain on ya,worthless piece of crap.
Message Edited by CURBhater on 10-21-2005 09:59 AM
Incorrect, it has to be in your system before the drain is applied and it has a max duration of 1 minutes and give or take a few seconds. Compared to a CM drain that lasts, could be wrong, but at master is close to 2 minutes if its not 2 minutes. The point is, its not the CM's right now so much as any ranged prof verses melee profesion, a CM has a chance to die due to there closeness to apply there paralyze and drain and such. Also drain cna be spammed unless they have changed that.
No, I am correct....unless Kauri has different code thanStarsider, because I logged in my MCM about 3 hours agoand applied Electrolyte Drain to a Jedi and as soon as she drank the Rancor Aid the +Snare+ vanished and her Force Run was back to normal. We tested this 3 times and each time it broke the Snare.
Thassk wrote:
what you think i can become a smuggler/bh and sucessfully hunt? because i think smuggler is fun? you think i can be a ranger bh? and have the DPS to beat jedi? you think i can go BH/commando and be sucessfull ? i too am restricted ...
Message Edited by Thassk on 10-21-2005 07:01 AM
Maxanto wrote:
Thassk wrote:
what are the jedi so upset about?
i dont know but its leaving a bad taste in my mouth ....and not because i think their right ..
they should stop .. they have ruined the game enough ...id hate to see potential new subscribers lost, because of the ridiculousness they will see when scanning the forums to learn about the game ...its one thing to have 1 to 5 threads ... and post within those threads ...
its another to have 3 pages of threads in the jedi forum alone ( with countless deleted) .. and then have jedi spill it onto the other forums ...they are like spoiled children getting loud to get what they want ...
accept the fact jedi is no longer alpha but just another regular proffession... consider your free alternate character slot the reward for your grinding ...
Message Edited by Thassk on 10-21-2005 05:35 AM
I have no problem making jedi like normal toons... but then get rid of exp loss. You make my point perfectly... if exp loss was removed there would be NO outcry.
Stecoli wrote:
Because all that grinding they did, now they cant even face a bh 1 on 1 and come out victorious , so all they can do is run , now they nerfing their escape root. I dont have a jedi alt but i do feel kinda sorry for them.
Thanks,
Someone that understands.That sums it up perfectly Bro.
Akast wrote:
is it the snare thing? or the SL thing. ive neever seen such unhappiness before sure they whine alot but this, is extreme
Add that to the new Mustafar weapons. Look especially well at that new bh rifle. Highest min I ever saw on a rifle.
Wookilonokus wrote:
Thassk you are dumb.
Trando is most nerfed?? HELLO, WOOKIEE'S?? Wookiees can't wear anything worth a crap. There are like 2 or 3 total outfits we can wear. Most have low sockets and we don't have any choice in the matter.
The BH/CM is retarded overpowered. The CM snare is 100 seconds, has no resists. There is a food now, but that is rediculous to make since good milk spawns, oh I don't know, once a year. Also, you can sit at 80 and solo a Ancient Krayt without it even turning it head in your direction. I would assume the same can be done with other high end PVE.
I have made no posts to complain about this new change. I won't, no point in it. I will still play my wookiee jedi and I will either win or die. I have tuned numerous pearls, numerous crystals. More pearls than crystals. The best pearl i have ever tuned is either 66 damage -2FC -.2 speed(horrible). Highest damage is 74.I don't have a pearl in my saber. I am one of the few with a decent Post-CU saber. You can't solo a krayt with a 250DPS saber that most jedi are running around with now. If you take a full group you essentially get a 1/8 chance to get a garbage pearl tune. Make a jedi and learn. If not don't act like you know what you are talking about.
Bottom line, you don't know what you are talking about.
ok no need to sling around insults ...and yes wookies too have some negative areas ... but when you look deeper ... we actually have some pluses too .. wookies base stats are amongst the best .. its liek they walk around with a permanent buff ....
and wookie armor has gotten better i could swear to see wokkie armor with decent resists these days ...
plus liek trandoshands we got some nice natural combat mods ...as a trandoshan any drawbacks to being the race ( like not being able to wear certain things) are compensated for my things like my regeneration .. ( which is awesome and more than makes up for the 8 slots ...)
so my point was dont always look at the negative .. there is positive in each individual template/species/proffession as well
Message Edited by Thassk on 10-21-2005 05:02 PM
freedomwarrior wrote:
Thassk wrote:
you know ... as a trandoshan i am the most nerfed character around? to be sucessfull at BH'in you need healing .. and trandoshans mind stats are like the worst ... i cant wear boots i cant wear gloves that takes 8 possible slots i could be using to stack more attachments into ...
wheres the trandoshan boards? where do i go to voice my opinions?
there will always be +'s and -'s to your character .. and to the game ... you just gotta roll with the punches, relax, and try your best ...and offer constructive criticism or suggestions in a timely, tactfully , respectfully, and sparingly ( by this i mean dont FLOOD your issue with constant whining or multiple posting )fashion .... and hope the devs listen ...
constantly baragging the forums with complaining and threats and insults is going to get you IGNORED as a player base ...it doesnt solve anything .. is immature .. and also hard to really be taken seriously under such condition even if your suggesstions criticisms are coherent ..
Um, do you even play this game? No boots or gloves have slots now, havent since the cu. So trandoshians are no longer gimped in this fashion.
In addition, yes as a master merchant I do make credits while offline, but I cant run a barker droid when offline, because it goes away too.
Nextly, tissues are a dime a dozen these days. Krayt tissues drop at a rate equal to and sometimes more than krayt scales. My ws friend buys up 120+ tissues almost daily these days.
The last 2 paragraphs were taken from another post of yours and i didnt qoute as I am being lazy today. Been a long day at work already.
LOL .. you see how your so quick to attack instead of listen and learn? pre CU gloves and boots( which are still plentyful ) have sockets my friend .. you can stack the AA's into them BEFORE you refit .. and voila !!! you have socketed gloves and boots..
this again emphasizes my point that people dont research and dont look to others for advice before taking the stand that theres no way to do this or that ...
the same mentality plagues people in their proffession in that they dont fully explore them ..
Usama wrote:
Thassk wrote:
Eskie wrote:
Thassk wrote:
...use jedi to farm high end loot ...
Excuse me? We are talking about ways to make money to buy pearls to improve the Jedis weapon. In this situation, you can assume that the Jedis weapon is sub-par, so how can the Jedi hunt high-end loot? Your points are flawed.
team up with a buddy ..... and if not i see jedi soloing krayts and kimos all the time ... its not difficult for a jedi ... even after the pub 24 changes im sure kimos will be within solo range
contrary to what you think jedi are amongst the best tanks in the game ... when i go and kill necro our jedi ( who has a post cu crap saber) tanks him all the way ... i dont know where you people get off trying to act as if jedi is as weak as crafters in combat ... jedi arevery strong templates
Message Edited by Thassk on 10-21-200507:20 AM
I assume you still have not played since Publish 24, because the days of a single Jedi tanking Necrosis have changed and if the Jedi is Master Defender and uses Avoid Incap Necrosis will attack the next person in group. Necrosis uses Aura / Choke / Force Speed / and hits for alot more damage than he did pre-pub 24.
Also, you had mentioned earlier "stock up on mushroom pie ( offer to buy it from anyone .. offer people 1 mill just to go run the kashyyk quest to get the pie) say if you find three of em thats 60 uses" Well, if Thyroid rupture is applied it voids any Force Speed you have, then subtracts -40 and you cannot eat the Mushroom Pie. Even if you already had eaten the Mushroom Pie prior to the attack, the debuff will completely cancel all speed buffs and then subtract the -40. So what good is buying Pie if you cannot use it because the Throid Rupture is going to cancel the +14 speed from the Pie and the +20 Force Speed, then it subtracts -40 speed. So basically if you are high on Pie and have Force Speed on, Thyroid Rupture is a -74 speed debuff.
I am just letting you know this since you mentioned that you have not had a chance to play since the publish.
I have always enjoyed BH encounters win or lose, but this Publish is not good for either profession. Especially not good for MBH / CM combo's because the only counter we have against the Electrolyte Drain is a 1 min drink and I can tell you what 95% of Jedi are going to do the very instant they drink it. They are going to root you and run, where as before this publish you would have had a good battle. So if you enjoy chasing Jedi all over a planet playing root wars...then this is the Publish for you.
Message Edited by Thassk on 10-21-2005 05:04 PM
welll, i asked the question and thank you i now have the answer. Tbh i do feel a bit for jedi, pre pub 24 any jedi that wasnt pre cu or Mdef, didint stand much of a chance v me, they would die or run, since pub 24 Mdefs are now not much of a problem at all, so for me that leaves only pre cu jedi, and really only ones with the m saber m enhancer template, just for the fact with a great saber and the speed they get.
the snare thing hasnt chnaged much in the fights ive had post 24, cause i normally stand toe 2 toe, and when i have kited and used snare ive just been snared back. i know i will get flamed but i do feel jedi need somthing extra, maybe not flawless pearls, cause th\t would make the overall poulation too hard, but maybe they need FRS
and on a final note i really thingk bhs and jedi should stop flaming each other we play teh same game, crys for nerfs dont help anyone, as when one is nerfed in the end the other will be nerfed to balance things out.
just my 2 cents
HeadRoll wrote:
Nice idea. You forgot about the second alt character slot. Once SOE removes xp loss for they ebayjedi, the second character slot needs to be deleted soon after.
Maxanto wrote:
I have no problem making jedi like normal toons... but then get rid of exp loss. You make my point perfectly... if exp loss was removed there would be NO outcry.
Message Edited by HeadRoll on 10-21-2005 01:32 PM
Message Edited by Valondra on 10-21-2005 10:14 PM