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Thread: what are the jedi so upset about?
Thassk wrote:
...use jedi to farm high end loot ...
Excuse me? We are talking about ways to make money to buy pearls to improve the Jedis weapon. In this situation, you can assume that the Jedis weapon is sub-par, so how can the Jedi hunt high-end loot? Your points are flawed.
Eskie wrote:
Thassk wrote:
...use jedi to farm high end loot ...
Excuse me? We are talking about ways to make money to buy pearls to improve the Jedis weapon. In this situation, you can assume that the Jedis weapon is sub-par, so how can the Jedi hunt high-end loot? Your points are flawed.
Message Edited by Thassk on 10-21-2005 07:20 AM
Thassk wrote:
Eskie wrote:
Thassk wrote:
...use jedi to farm high end loot ...
Excuse me? We are talking about ways to make money to buy pearls to improve the Jedis weapon. In this situation, you can assume that the Jedis weapon is sub-par, so how can the Jedi hunt high-end loot? Your points are flawed.
team up with a buddy ..... and if not i see jedi soloing krayts and kimos all the time ... its not difficult for a jedi ... even after the pub 24 changes im sure kimos will be within solo rangecontrary to what you think jedi are amongst the best tanks in the game ... when i go and kill necro our jedi ( who has a post cu crap saber) tanks him all the way ... i dont know where you people get off trying to act as if jedi is as weak as crafters in combat ... jedi are very strong templatesMessage Edited by Thassk on 10-21-2005 07:20 AM
Jedi are very strong at defense instantly, but they are sub-par on offense unless they have a good LS. You are trying to get this argument headed into the direction of "Jedi need to work on their toon to be competitive". The point I am making is no matter how hard a Jedi works post-pub 24, a squadleader-buffed rifleman will one-shot him and a ranged player with a snare in the template will kite him to death.
If you can negate the above part in bold, I will agree with pub 24. Until then, it is a huge unbalancing of the game in my eyes. PvP-wise because of the one-hit incaps (even last ditch is more balanced) and for melee classes especially since they are not able to do any damage to ranged kiters before being killed.
Thassk you are dumb.
Trando is most nerfed?? HELLO, WOOKIEE'S?? Wookiees can't wear anything worth a crap. There are like 2 or 3 total outfits we can wear. Most have low sockets and we don't have any choice in the matter.
The BH/CM is retarded overpowered. The CM snare is 100 seconds, has no resists. There is a food now, but that is rediculous to make since good milk spawns, oh I don't know, once a year. Also, you can sit at 80 and solo a Ancient Krayt without it even turning it head in your direction. I would assume the same can be done with other high end PVE.
I have made no posts to complain about this new change. I won't, no point in it. I will still play my wookiee jedi and I will either win or die. I have tuned numerous pearls, numerous crystals. More pearls than crystals. The best pearl i have ever tuned is either 66 damage -2FC -.2 speed(horrible). Highest damage is 74.I don't have a pearl in my saber. I am one of the few with a decent Post-CU saber. You can't solo a krayt with a 250DPS saber that most jedi are running around with now. If you take a full group you essentially get a 1/8 chance to get a garbage pearl tune. Make a jedi and learn. If not don't act like you know what you are talking about.
Bottom line, you don't know what you are talking about.
Thassk wrote:
you know ... as a trandoshan i am the most nerfed character around? to be sucessfull at BH'in you need healing .. and trandoshans mind stats are like the worst ... i cant wear boots i cant wear gloves that takes 8 possible slots i could be using to stack more attachments into ...
wheres the trandoshan boards? where do i go to voice my opinions?
there will always be +'s and -'s to your character .. and to the game ... you just gotta roll with the punches, relax, and try your best ...and offer constructive criticism or suggestions in a timely, tactfully , respectfully, and sparingly ( by this i mean dont FLOOD your issue with constant whining or multiple posting )fashion .... and hope the devs listen ...
constantly baragging the forums with complaining and threats and insults is going to get you IGNORED as a player base ...it doesnt solve anything .. is immature .. and also hard to really be taken seriously under such condition even if your suggesstions criticisms are coherent ..
Um, do you even play this game? No boots or gloves have slots now, havent since the cu. So trandoshians are no longer gimped in this fashion.
In addition, yes as a master merchant I do make credits while offline, but I cant run a barker droid when offline, because it goes away too.
Nextly, tissues are a dime a dozen these days. Krayt tissues drop at a rate equal to and sometimes more than krayt scales. My ws friend buys up 120+ tissues almost daily these days.
The last 2 paragraphs were taken from another post of yours and i didnt qoute as I am being lazy today. Been a long day at work already.
Thassk wrote:
Eskie wrote:
Thassk wrote:
...use jedi to farm high end loot ...
Excuse me? We are talking about ways to make money to buy pearls to improve the Jedis weapon. In this situation, you can assume that the Jedis weapon is sub-par, so how can the Jedi hunt high-end loot? Your points are flawed.
team up with a buddy ..... and if not i see jedi soloing krayts and kimos all the time ... its not difficult for a jedi ... even after the pub 24 changes im sure kimos will be within solo range
contrary to what you think jedi are amongst the best tanks in the game ... when i go and kill necro our jedi ( who has a post cu crap saber) tanks him all the way ... i dont know where you people get off trying to act as if jedi is as weak as crafters in combat ... jedi arevery strong templates
Message Edited by Thassk on 10-21-200507:20 AM
Thats my only issue with MCM/MBH since now they got their "I win" button.I dont mind the speeddebuff or heal timers,that was fine with me but snare changes pisses me off
And oh ye,that food only lasts like 1-2minute and has to be applied BEFORE you get e-drain on ya,worthless piece of crap.
Message Edited by CURBhater on 10-21-2005 09:59 AM
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=setandget&tp=331325&poll_id=0&category_id=19&warned=y
It's this screenshot I found on my servers forums that really makes me weep. Seems those new SL buffs are a tiny bit overpowered eh?
Rancor Aid does not have to be used before E-Drain is applied. It breaks E-Drain when you drink it. If you take it before, then the CM cannot apply it to you for the 1-2 mins.
CURBhater wrote:
I dont like being snared for 100seconds by e-drain without being to counter it with forcerun like i used to be able to
Thats my only issue with MCM/MBH since now they got their "I win" button.I dont mind the speeddebuff or heal timers,that was fine with me but snare changes pisses me off
And oh ye,that food only lasts like 1-2minute and has to be applied BEFORE you get e-drain on ya,worthless piece of crap.
Message Edited by CURBhater on 10-21-2005 09:59 AM
Thassk wrote:
Eskie wrote:
Oh come on - for one, everybody can alternate roots and snares and stay at 50m without having any serious PvP skill. On the other hand, youre saying the Jedi participating in your duels dont have PvP experience? If at all, Jedi are the profesion with the most PvP experience on average for 3 reasons: They can get jumped at any time, people say they ruin GCW (how could they if they are not PvPing?) and people say they duel in Theed.
Thassk wrote: (...)
lesser skill vs. hardened b/h skill
alternate rooots and snares? ..... to alternate roots and snares you give up healing .. and the debuffs and the dots you all seem to hate so much ....
BH is not take all ... bh is very limited in dabbling my friend .. master BH eats away many a SP .. then if you want high enough accuracy to actually do damage with your weapon you take another weapon mastery ...this leaves you with very little SP left ... usually a smart BH will put it into healing, because this will help in both PVE and PVP and dungeon running ...
MCM is one of the few ways to get both a snare and a root, but the root is not to gain distance .. since you have to be right up close and personal to the jedi to lay it ... with the limited amount of time it lasts its only there so you can apply a couple of ( maybe 3 )debuffs ... its not meant to help you gain distance ...
there WAS a time when my carb cripple shot stacked with my ED .. but the devs removed it ( without any mention in the publish notes) because they felt it was overpowered against jedi ..but jedi dont hear of such changes....
if a jedi picked up master LS .. farmed pearls for a saber around 650 damage and low FC...( which is possible my post CU friend has done it ... from the pearls hes gotten while hunting krayts with me) ... pick up few lines in defender .. or even the whole mastery .. maybe something like 0003 2003 or 3002 enhancer they are gonna be a tough son of a gun to beat ...
you stack a 2300 energy defensepsg on top of that ... and get your hands on melee and otherdefense ca's ... as well as all the tapes you can .. healing enhancement ...max your force .. wear a 4 slotted +16 melee defense shirt, neutralize bleeding with some bleeding defense pants ... add to that terrain negotiation gloves or bandolier, ...and eat and drink theright foods ( for jedi that syntsteak and vegaparsine ...the fire absorption food ( the name escapes me right now) .. stock up on mushroom pie ( offer to buy it from anyone .. offer people 1 mill just to go run the kashyyk quest to get the pie) say if you find three of em thats 60 uses ... ... and always make a point to try to be around a doc ... or keep buffed ( sure its annoying but safe) ...and now keep around a SL .. ( there should be plenty around .. your guild should have someone dedicated enough to make a SL to help guildies out and its not infringing on their enjoyment of the game since the proffession right now rocks ...
you will be an entity to be reckoned with ... the poison and fire absoprtion food takes care of a CM's dots .. you got the bleed resistence which will protect you against most opponents ...if you get stuck with a speed debuff you fight out of it with the mushroom pie ...if you get low on force pop a holocron ( they are extremely cheap) and use your enhancer abilities to convert action when ya need it ...
always bring the BH close to you .. dont fight him in an open field where he will have the advantage ... get close to buildings cut off his line of sight by cutting a corner real quick while your runnin ... fight in small rooms in buildings of the non player cities ... bring the fight to YOUR terms ...
too many jedi play the game with a victim mentality .. and that mentality is the biggest detriment to their PVP prowess .. NOT their templates ....
Message Edited by Thassk on 10-21-2005 06:35 AM
Your incorrect in your thinking, you stated a jedi cna pick up msaber and switch his temp around like it was something to do in a weeks time. Not going ot happen.... There are no good quality crystals or pearls dropping in game now since the CL change with pub 24and have you tried a krayt lately, the juvis are 1 hit incapping. The max range on a jedi is 32 meters, now please explain to me how a jedi can do any damage to a attacker if there snared from 32 meters or farther and haveing a constant snare root chain on them and then getting hit with sniper shot ontop of that. There is no way to negate the snare or root, and the rancor aid is designed to work if its in your system before you get electrolyte drain hit, it has no effect after you have been hit with electro light drain.
The only bh that are pretty much getting killed are the cm's since they have to stay in range of the jedi to apply there dots. Since ther eis no escape for jedi there pretty much going to fight if its a cm since they will be in range most of the time. Also the Enhancer resist buffs dont work and as a master healer I can speak from experience that the only states i cna remove are the dizzy and stun, which 90 percent dont apply anymore anyway. I dont think the community is wanting a I win button I think there just wanting a fighting chance and as it stands now there isnt one if the bh is ranged. Pretty simply there is no way for a jedi to get a weapon that is close to par with the damage they take and to compete with your speed of damage being saber speed is broke as the devs stated. There really is no reason to leave there houses now and sadly it will afect bh. 1 It will almost stop there jedi bountys and 2 since the boss mobs of the npc missions are cranked up there not going ot have much else to do also but sit in there houses.
Usama wrote:
Rancor Aid does not have to be used before E-Drain is applied. It breaks E-Drain when you drink it. If you take it before, then the CM cannot apply it to you for the 1-2 mins.
CURBhater wrote:
I dont like being snared for 100seconds by e-drain without being to counter it with forcerun like i used to be able to
Thats my only issue with MCM/MBH since now they got their "I win" button.I dont mind the speeddebuff or heal timers,that was fine with me but snare changes pisses me off
And oh ye,that food only lasts like 1-2minute and has to be applied BEFORE you get e-drain on ya,worthless piece of crap.
Message Edited by CURBhater on 10-21-2005 09:59 AM
Incorrect, it has to be in your system before the drain is applied and it has a max duration of 1 minutes and give or take a few seconds. Compared to a CM drain that lasts, could be wrong, but at master is close to 2 minutes if its not 2 minutes. The point is, its not the CM's right now so much as any ranged prof verses melee profesion, a CM has a chance to die due to there closeness to apply there paralyze and drain and such. Also drain cna be spammed unless they have changed that.