Bounty Hunter Archive

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Fytos wrote:

Peeps, just been on TC, they changed the Scout tree, i think it's gonna work

Good job JustG, thank you!

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Starscream1 wrote:

We are currently in the process of deciding on some very important changes for the Bounty Hunter profession. The reduction of skillpoints by lowering the pre-requisites is a PERMANENT change. Should we decide that we don't like it after all, or it makes a new template game-breakingly unbalanced it is going to be nearly impossible to reverse this change; if they do everyone who dropped master scout will suddenly no longer be a bounty hunter.

This change does not help us dabble out of our profession as much as it helps all other professions dabble into ours.

Now that the problems have been outlined, what is the solution?

Right now, a good temporary fix would be adding accuracy through the Bounty Hunter skill tree. This change helps ALL bounty hunters.

+2 carbine accuracy to modifier already present in each BH carbine box. + 70 in the master box. This gives both MBH and Master Carbineer/BH carbines 4 the SAME amount of carbine accuracy; +198

+15 pistol accuracy to the modifier already present in the first BH pistol box, +10 in each subsequent BH pistol box and +45 at Master. This gives both MBH and Master Pistoleer/BH pistols 4 the SAME pistol accuracy; +200.

+20 LLC accuracy to the modifier already present in each of the LLC boxes. This gives a total of +150 LLC accuracy at LLC 4.

These changes would make us powerful enough to compete until we can receive a proper revamp.

JustG has stated that lowering the required skillpoints was going to be part of the Combat Balance, they are just letting us have this change earlier to keep us happy. He NEVER said that this was temporary, that it was a hotfix or that it was removable. Any other changes we will receive will only be bug fixes, not enhancements. In the eye of the Dev, the skillpoint reduction will be our enhancement, making us too strong to merit any other enhancement. This will also hamper our ability to receive any other major changes without making any present bounty hunters need to RE-ACQUIRE old pre-requisites. Don't believe me? Take a look at the developer attention we have gotten in the past and present. JustG has only made one other post since he has said the Dev wants to lower the pre-requisites. This shows us the Devs has no real ideas about how to revamp us. We need to do it ourselves. We need to do this right while we are in the spotlight.

So what WOULD be in the works while we have our temporary accuracy enhancement?

This is how I picture a Bounty Hunter revamp:

PRE-REQUISITES:

• MASTER SCOUT

Why scout? It is an excellent skillpoint sink which we need to keep our profession to be dabbled in by anyone and everyone. The terrain negotiation is nice and we will make actual use of the other trees in scout later on

• MASTERY OF ANY ELITE COMBAT PROFESSION

This is the big change. It is what gives the new bounty hunter a identity and frees us from the "cookie-cutter" template syndrome. It opens the possibity of melee Master Bounty Hunters, something that is still unachievable even with the lower skillpoint requirement being suggested. This is what gives us our freedom, yet still be bounty hunters. Greenmarine is currently working on THIS EXACT CHANGE for smugglers. Once he has it worked out for them, we can use it in our own revamp.

BOUNTY HUNTER SKILL TREES:

The skill trees are almost be completely new. All weapons line have been removed from the skill trees. In their place are skills used in tracking and apprehending marks. What makes a Bounty Hunter different than some gusy with a gun.

INVESTIGATION:

• This tree basically remains untouched from how it is now. Requires Bounty Hunter experience, gives us our ability to track marks using droids.

TRACKING:

• Copied and almost identical to the tracking tree in ranger. Requires Scouting experience. It is differentiated from the Ranger trakcing tree by not granting +creature harvest bonuses and only grants increasing levels of areatrack for humanoids only, animal tracking is never available.
  
• Tracking 1: NPCs. Bounty Hunter is given the ability to use areatrack and fin d NPCs.
  
• Tracking 2: Direction. Areatrack tell the Bounty Hunter what direction the NPC is located.
  
• Tracking 3: Distance. Tells a Bounty Hunter how far away a NPC is located in addition to which direction.
  
• Tracking 4: Players. Bounty Hunter is given the ability to track players, direction and distance are shown.

GADGETS:

This line gives the Bounty Hunter access to a NEW handy form of gadgets and traps to assist in apprehending a mark. This line would be VERY similar to the scout trapping line. It would require trapping xp, however now trapping xp can ALSO be earned by using traps on NPCs. The xp requirements woudl be same as the tracking line, how ever the same amount of xp would be given per successful trap as harvesting or using /maskscent. These traps would be crafted by Bounty Hunters, but perhaps require more specific components than scout traps and also be usable on players in PvP. Trap can be very effective because the success factor is different from a player's defence modifiers.

• Novice Bounty Hunter: Shrapnel Grenade. This grenade explodes flinging sharp metal everywhere, which causes bleeding to occur to a target. +10 Trapping
  
• Gadgets 1: Flashbangs. This emits a bright flash which causes blindness to occur on a target. +15 Trapping
  
• Gadgets 2: Noisemakers. This causes loud noises from all directions and places a stunned state on a target. +15 Trapping
  
• Gadgets 3: Poison Dart. Delivers a poisoned solution to a target, placed a dizzy state on the target. +15 Trapping
  
• Gadgets 4: Sticky Glue Trap. Deploys a mess of glue which encumbers a target, lowering their ranged and melee defenses.
  
• Master: Bola. Deploys a Bola (3 balls all attached to 3 ropes connected in the middle) which binds the legs of the target, temporarily immobilzing it.

COMBAT:

Because Bounty Hunter IS a combat profession, we need combat attack specific to us. Here is where we have our own attacks and defenses. These are not meant to be used alone, but in addition to the elite combat profession we have mastered to give us and extra edge when apprehending a mark. This tree would use Combat experience in the same amounts that the combat experience line of the elite combat professions.

• Novice: Def vs Bleeding +10, Lightsaber Toughness +5
  
• BH Combat 1: Poison Dart. Applies a light poison to a target (~75 tick) to a RANDOM pool on the target. Def vs Blind +10, Lightsaber Toughness +5
  
• BH Combat 2: Wrist Flamethrower. A weaponsmith crafted weapon, this comes in stacks similar to grenades to Commando weapons. It has about the same damage and range of the LLC special attacks and applies a fire DoT. Def vs Stun +10, Lightsaber Toughness +5
  
• BH Combat 3: Def vs Dizzy +10, Lightsaber Toughness + 10
  
• BH combat 4: Wrist Grappling Line. This is more of an abililty than a weapons, but can be used with any weapon equiped. The Bounty Hunter shoots a grappling line from the launcher. Can be used withing 20m and causes a posture down. Def vs KD +10, Lightsaber Toughness +5
  
• Master: Quickstrike. This attack can be used with any weapon equipped, and hit all HAM pools on a target. It has a x5 damage modifer. When used on Jedi, due to no less than 3 attacks hitting at once, it bypasses saber blocking. All other Jedi defenses will take affect. Lightsaber Toughness +15

That is how I would like to see our profession revamped. It would give us power, not have us remained balanced. It would give us individuality by choosing our weapon of choice, but also give us a tree that it is benficial to master which would unite us. It is better than simply removing some of the skillpoint requirement, a change that almost garuntees a ravamp of the caliber I have detailed will never happen.

I have no doubts that a revamp of this scale would be impossible to implement soon. But if we knew that the Dev woudl rather do something like this later, rather than premanently change us now and hinder our flexibility for a revamp later, I could wait. They have no idea hwo to revamp us, we need to come up with the idea.

Please do not make "I like it, but it'll never happen" posts. If you like this revamp better, SAY SO! Do not allow us to receive a half-fix that could make things worse later on. DO NOT SETTLE FOR THE FIRST THING THAT COMES ALONG IF IT MEANS HURTING OURSELVES LATER. Push for the changes you want to see. The ones you really want! Keep this thread at the top if you like it. Ask for it to be stickied. But don't settle and shoot ourselves in the foot for later on.

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