Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Bounty Hunters... what can Dev do Right Now??
GrimesAAOO
Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:55 am
#573
I have a question....
I hear people saying "now i can become a MBH / TKM"
Well i want to know how this is possible if since we have 81 sp left after MBH when TKM costs around 92....
I just want to know what people are saying...
(maybe when they say TKM [Teras Kasi Master] they mean just TK)
I hear people saying "now i can become a MBH / TKM"
Well i want to know how this is possible if since we have 81 sp left after MBH when TKM costs around 92....
I just want to know what people are saying...
(maybe when they say TKM [Teras Kasi Master] they mean just TK)
Smokey_d
Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:13 am
#574
Thanks G 
Now I can Master Pistoleer, and have a little bit left over for some basic Healing.
Yeah!
teamdoa
Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:03 am
#575
Khavren_Gorath wrote:
If the whole idea is to help us out now and get us by until the combat balance...
What happens when bounty hunter IS fixed. What happens to those who dropped scout skills in favor of others? This would have to be permanent change not a temporary one.
What are you talking about. Its says very clearly at the start of this thread, that this is what is happening, its permanent....if it goes ahead.
NasherUK
Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:08 am
#576
Hmm I realised something, with this change BH isnt going to be any better than someone who has e.g. master carbineer and 0400 BH and a few skill tapes, just they will be able to have all the MBH benefits now and maybe some medic or other skills. So I changed my mind, the BH specials need to get better
BH still needs to be neutral only though.
nymeria73
Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:12 am
#577
I don't understand why many people don't want this change: do you all think one day devs will add +60melee def. + 60ranged def. + 100llc ecc ecc.?
that kind of change needs very long test and play.... take this "gift" and enjoy it, until the complete combat revamp..... it's not very much, but it's better than nothing.
Nimerya
Imperial Colonel
SgtPounder
Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:46 am
#578
First of all, Thanks to the dev team for giving this profession some attention. ( It sorely needs it ! )
With that said: here's my opinion on the rest . . .
Jedi bounties should DEFINITELY be moved to MBH. This will prevent everyone from just getting inv.3 and nothing else. If someone wants to be a BH/dabbler, they can only get NPC bounties or PC bounties (when they come out . . . ). This way, BH can lend color to their characters, if they choose to, by picking up other skills and having some variety instead of being cookie-cutter BH. Perhaps this will satisfy the BH purists AND the dabblers . . . Furthersore, you could put a certification for armor that has LS resists at MBH as well. This would encourage more BH to go for Master, which should improve the BH profession.
If you ever plan on making humanoid traps in the future, leave the Trappingline in the Scout tree as a pre-req for BH. As far as getting rid of the other two lines of Scout . . .great idea, they were worthless anyway. 217 SP for a class as weak as BH is, is too many ! This allows the character variety that i alluded to earlier, and a BH SHOULD be able to pick from any weapon he/she decides to train with. (Who really cares what everyone else is doing with their toon?) I agree whole-heartedly with Jave about the Bh being able to decide the means to an end. The element of suprise should be on the BH's side, and not knowing what to prepare for SHOULD be a disadvantage to a Mark.
LLC's need more accuracy. This could be achieved by making use of the otherwise worthless Rifle tree in Marksman by making the LLC a rifle. That way, keeping the Master Marksman pre-req is justified. Otherwise, why did I even BUY a rifle . . . much less grind this line of the tree?
Maybe we could get a few gadget certifications? (Isn't this what we all wanted when we bought this game?) This may be offset by the fact that BH can now acquire additional skills to complement their combat style.
BH carbine stinks. 'Nuff said.
Fix Droids. This is a priority !
Bounty Hunting is expensive work. Between buffs, travel, weapons, spices/food, droids, etc . . . the payouts for Bounties just aren't enough. If thid is to be my chosen profession, then I need to be able to make some money doing it.
The idea of some sort of BH ranking system, like the one Jedi have, is an awesome one. Being a successful BH should get you some sort of reputation amongst your peers. Perhaps we could have events at those static battlefields that never went anywhere. (what ever happened to those things, anyway?)
Maybe a little boost to our defenses would be in order. Though, this may also be offset by the fact that we can acquire more skills now. So nothing too big . . .
Finally, I think that we should be able to skill-swap the way the Jedi did. But I am also wary that this may become too much of a trend every time in the future that a profession is changed.
Thanks for reading, and I hope that this provides food for thought on both sides of the issue. I'm sure i have more to add, but it's late . . . so I may add to this later . . .
DayWalkerRori
Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:06 am
#579
I totally love the idea...1st idea the devs have had ive agreeded with in a long time..I full hope that you will keep fixing as time goes on
Ive been a Gimped MBH for months and its about time I get to be my own BH and not someone elese...
Here are a few sugestions for short/long Term...
1 Move Jedi Hunting to Inv4
2 Disintegration ray - 32m ranged DB attack
3 New BH carbine
4 Dart gun - Poison loads (Master lvl weapon)
5 Web gun - Freezes player in a spot for X secs (Master lvl weapon)
6 Reusable Tracking/Fighting Probot Driod (Master use skill)
7 Make s Scatter Pistol harder to Block...Face it, it shoots 5 shots at once and should be harder to block..Maybe devide(if you can code it) the Dmg into 5 parts and for however many shots get threw they take the adjusted Dmg..
8 Add Player Tracking to MBH (Only Player Tracking..Not NPC or Critters) would give MBH a Luster
9 Change the Pistol/Carbine BH lines to Scatter pistol line - BH Carbine new weapon line - LLC line Instead of enhancing the reg pistoleer and carbineer..This would totally cut down on Dabblers..Much like the Commando Trees
10 add defences to the Inv Line
11 more Acc mods for LLC
12 Weapon Switch Delay +1 in all 4 Inv Trees and the final +1 in the Masters Box- each +1 would take a full sec off the 5sec delay
Message Edited by DayWalkerRori on 07-01-2004 10:20 AM
jaygar
Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:39 am
#580
first of all let me say thanx a lot, I was begining to think you might have forgot about us....not really but was feeling neglected I guess....LOL.
I think this is a very good step it helping us out, though I wish you'd keep trapping in and make it so BH can make traps or darts that can work on npc and real players. Also I'd like to sugest along with that make us a wrist dart weapon that we can creat our own dart with diferent capablilty's (i.e. mind poision for individual, not area, range defence down, melee defence down and other as well) and have to refill in order to use. This will give a slightly better edge against jedi, though not much with thier force heal, andin overall pvp as well. I know you've been working on this to free up some of our point and now areand I'm asking you to add some back but I think it would be worth it. I'd also like to suggest for a improvment down the road, to make MBH able to craft thier own set of armor that only they can wear(like a jedi's lightsaber) that would be as good as or slightly better thehigh qual composit armor, but once we drop MBH we can nolonger wear. The BH armor in the game is a joke as far as the parts I have seen so far....if it gets better then in the 50% range I may stand corrected but that about all I've seen. May be even if it is just ok(60%-70%) in other catigories, make it high agesnt lightsaber and force resistant. OK not that I put in my two cents, and that probaly all it's every worth....LOL....I'd really like to thank you again on doing what you can to improve BH. Drive on!
Jaygar Tyler BH
Flurry
fav
Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:09 am
#581
After looking into this solution deeper and talking to other BH players in game, I've changed my mind about it. I'm very happy this is going to happen and I think its going to add a lot of value to my profession once again. Thanks very much for responding to this issue, and for the short time from announcement to implementation. I apologize for my negativity earlier in the thread. Thanks for your time.
teamdoa
Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:03 am
#582
Ok, I will compromise ....put Jedi hunting to Investigation 4 not master.
teamdoa
Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:05 am
#583
DayWalkerRori wrote:
I totally love the idea...1st idea the devs have had ive agreeded with in a long time..I full hope that you will keep fixing as time goes on
Ive been a Gimped MBH for months and its about time I get to be my own BH and not someone elese...
Here are a few sugestions for short/long Term...
1 Move Jedi Hunting to Inv4
2 Disintegration ray - 32m ranged DB attack
3 New BH carbine
4 Dart gun - Poison loads (Master lvl weapon)
5 Web gun - Freezes player in a spot for X secs (Master lvl weapon)
6 Reusable Tracking/Fighting Probot Driod (Master use skill)
7 Make s Scatter Pistol harder to Block...Face it, it shoots 5 shots at once and should be harder to block..Maybe devide(if you can code it) the Dmg into 5 parts and for however many shots get threw they take the adjusted Dmg..
8 Add Player Tracking to MBH (Only Player Tracking..Not NPC or Critters) would give MBH a Luster
9 Change the Pistol/Carbine BH lines to Scatter pistol line - BH Carbine new weapon line - LLC line Instead of enhancing the reg pistoleer and carbineer..This would totally cut down on Dabblers..Much like the Commando Trees
10 add defences to the Inv Line
11 more Acc mods for LLC
12 Weapon Switch Delay +1 in all 4 Inv Trees and the final +1 in the Masters Box- each +1 would take a full sec off the 5sec delay
Message Edited by DayWalkerRori on 07-01-2004 10:20 AM
I agree with all of this....I think you should ask for a job at Sony. The weapon reduction delay idea is superb.
Message Edited by teamdoa on 07-01-2004 04:06 PM
Okob
Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:13 am
#584
i dont think thatgetting rid of the 3 prerequisite trees from scout is thr right way to go for thebounty hunter profession, insted you should make BH more powerfull by continuing the 3 trees into BH. i don't want more SP, i want BH to be a better profession, as do all the bounty hunters i know.
Morfox
Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:13 am
#585
I honestly don't like this at all, I won't drop Master Scout... I do not want this change, I want a BH to get better to allowing us to go into another proffesion.
And some people say that this is only temporary and if they change it its hard to change it back and let the ones who have dropped the unnecasary scoup boxes, come back as BH.
I am totally happy with the way BH are now - I see nothing wrong with using scout since we are hunters. they just need to implement more scout uses into the BH profession.