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So...first I was called sexist.....then told to hunt level 80 Jedi....guess what? I STILL get the SAME result.....and about 10 PMs in the last week from people wanting to know my template...

YES...even level 80 Jedi hide

This Jedi wasn't too nice either.... This Jedi even SPIT on me LMAO! Although I DID get teh incapp once in this fight....then came the house sitting....LMAO!


So what have we learned today?

If we walk right up to a Jedi and get killed, we need to use "tactics". If you attack a Jedi while out in the wild, and they are "in combat" (attacking Picketts in this case), then we are cowards. And if we (as BHs) EVER start to win, most Jedi.....5 out of 6 for me...run into a house and call us names.

I've jumped through ever hoop, I'm learned the system, and how to hunt. I'm getting very damn good at it to. However, thanks to the Devs at SOE, I rarely ever see the fruit of my labors.

Hunt high, hunt low, hunt solo, hunt groups.....hunt "Male" Jedi, Hunt "Female" Jedi....nothing changes the fact that Jedi is becomming synonymous with the word "EXPLOITER".

Is there any other type of Jedi I should be hunting to prove my point? Or are the many Jedi in this thread going to continue to make excuses for exploiting the system? Is there something I "just didn't do right"? Oh wait...I know, I know...I didn't do enough damage to the Jedi BEFORE the Jedi could just Force Run into a house...silly me....I'm such a loser.

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Tucheck wrote:

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plonger wrote:

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Tucheck wrote:
So...first I was called sexist.....then told to hunt level 80 Jedi....guess what? I STILL get the SAME result.....and about 10 PMs in the last week from people wanting to know my template...

YES...even level 80 Jedi hide

This Jedi wasn't too nice either.... This Jedi even SPIT on me LMAO! Although I DID get teh incapp once in this fight....then came the house sitting....LMAO!


So what have we learned today?

If we walk right up to a Jedi and get killed, we need to use "tactics". If you attack a Jedi while out in the wild, and they are "in combat" (attacking Picketts in this case), then we are cowards. And if we (as BHs) EVER start to win, most Jedi.....5 out of 6 for me...run into a house and call us names.

I've jumped through ever hoop, I'm learned the system, and how to hunt. I'm getting very damn good at it to. However, thanks to the Devs at SOE, I rarely ever see the fruit of my labors.

Hunt high, hunt low, hunt solo, hunt groups.....hunt "Male" Jedi, Hunt "Female" Jedi....nothing changes the fact that Jedi is becomming synonymous with the word "EXPLOITER".

Is there any other type of Jedi I should be hunting to prove my point? Or are the many Jedi in this thread going to continue to make excuses for exploiting the system? Is there something I "just didn't do right"? Oh wait...I know, I know...I didn't do enough damage to the Jedi BEFORE the Jedi could just Force Run into a house...silly me....I'm such a loser.

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I asked this in your other post and nobody would respond, perhaps you will in this one. While not condoning exploiting the tef issue, could you tell me your thoughts on BH who continue to attack a jedi after rooting or paralyzing them after they see that the root didn't break on damage?

I know this is a bug and continuing to attack after you see the root didn't break would seem to be exploiting a game bug to your advantage, but I just don't see all the threads complaining about that over on the jedi forum.

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You are GRAVELY misinformed......and I dare anyone to tell me I'm wrong about the following:

The root from Stopping shot is NOT suppose to break on damage. The player rooted may still attack back and heal, however, they may NOT move.

Paralyze WAS bugged on TC, and I THINK it made it over to live for about a week. Paralyze DOES break on damage, and I believe concussion shot should as well.

The reason you don't see threads about these issues all over the jedi forums is quite simple...stopping shot was never a bug OR exploit, and paralyze has been fixed. They are not issues, thus, you don't see the threads.

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Ah, I was not aware that paralyze had been fixed. Sorry for any misunderstanding then.

How about you showing me a Dev statement on this? it is something he wants changed but that does not mean it is an exploit. Show me a Dev stateing such and I will stand corected untill then it is no exploit and stop your stupid whineing and learn how to play.

Message Edited by Corvett on 06-20-2005 01:10 PM

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Ok...let me explain it to you. Once a BH attacks a jedi, the BH receives a TEF that does prevents him from entering into player structures. This is working normally. Now once a jedi attacks back, the jedi is also suppose to receive a TEF that also prevents him from entering player structures. This is not working as it's currently bugged. This bug came about after the GCW update went live. And if there was to be no more TEF, then the bounty hunter would be able to enter into player structures that he would normally have access to but we don't. Is this making sense to you yet??

So how about you quit endorsing the use of exploits.

take a look at this thread!!! lol

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DiggyNO wrote:

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MasterSad wrote:
Where is the TEF abusing??? He might have been abusing private building but not the TEF (and there is no such thing after the CU). Yet you have chosen wrong place to attacj and crying for exploiting...

Message Edited by MasterSad on 06-20-2005 01:35 PM

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There's no "wrong place to attack", troll. Houses can be planted almost anywhere and Jedi - conviniently - grind where they can place these (and of course other places where they can get bugged out of attackability).

Jedi should suffer incap if they move more than 100m away from a bounty hunter who hasengaged combatwith them, this pacifism sucks.

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wow man, i want some of what you're smoking... it sounds like some good hash...

100m?!? yeah, pass me some of that great hash... thanks

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Tucheck wrote:

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CrashNgoBoom wrote:

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ErveStarr wrote:

Unless your Jedi is only novice healer, you are either mistaken or telling a lie there. Jedi can outheal any other profession in the game by a massive degree, period.

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I'm seriously not trying to flame, but I'm getting sick off all these people who don't know how to fight and cry when they lose. Yes, it is possible for a non-jedi to spam 1200 point heals without the use of stims. If you play with a templet that can't do this then it's your problem. A jedi has to make room for it in his templet, if you want the same ability, then you have to do the same. And while these aren't the 1500 heals a jedi can do, they can be done without the draining a critical pool and can easily be boosted beyond 1500 with enhancers.

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Sorry but he is correct. On TOP of Jedi heals, a jedi can use both Ruby AND Stim Ds, just like everyone else.....or had you not thought of that?

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I'm aware of this, I wasn't talking about stims. Read thehighlighted part. I'm talking about the ability to heal without stims and biliel, a non-jedi with the right set up can still heal for that much. There are enhnacers ontop of healing professions giving bonuses to healing which make your normal heals VERY potent.

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CrashNgoBoom wrote:

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Tucheck wrote:

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CrashNgoBoom wrote:

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ErveStarr wrote:

Unless your Jedi is only novice healer, you are either mistaken or telling a lie there. Jedi can outheal any other profession in the game by a massive degree, period.

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I'm seriously not trying to flame, but I'm getting sick off all these people who don't know how to fight and cry when they lose. Yes, it is possible for a non-jedi to spam 1200 point heals without the use of stims. If you play with a templet that can't do this then it's your problem. A jedi has to make room for it in his templet, if you want the same ability, then you have to do the same. And while these aren't the 1500 heals a jedi can do, they can be done without the draining a critical pool and can easily be boosted beyond 1500 with enhancers.

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Sorry but he is correct. On TOP of Jedi heals, a jedi can use both Ruby AND Stim Ds, just like everyone else.....or had you not thought of that?

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I'm aware of this, I wasn't talking about stims. Read the highlighted part. I'm talking about the ability to heal without stims and biliel, a non-jedi with the right set up can still heal for that much. There are enhnacers ontop of healing professions giving bonuses to healing which make your normal heals VERY potent.

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Good...so we agree. I can use my CM skills, Ruby, and Stims to heal about as much as a Jedi can heal without the use of Ruby and Stims....got it.

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Corvett wrote:

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IamCadan wrote:

How about you showing me a Dev statement on this? it is something he wants changed but that does not mean it is an exploit. Show me a Dev stateing such and I will stand corected untill then it is no exploit and stop your stupid whineing and learn how to play.

Message Edited by Corvett on 06-20-2005 01:10 PM

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Ok...let me explain it to you. Once a BH attacks a jedi, the BH receives a TEF that does prevents him from entering into player structures. This is working normally. Now once a jedi attacks back, the jedi is also suppose to receive a TEF that also prevents him from entering player structures. This is not working as it's currently bugged. This bug came about after the GCW update went live. And if there was to be no more TEF, then the bounty hunter would be able to enter into player structures that he would normally have access to but we don't. Is this making sense to you yet??

So how about you quit endorsing the use of exploits.

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As I said give me a link proveing it is and I will stand corrected. Your interpretation isn't enough sorry. The old system is gone and for all we know the Devs have it working as intended untill they say otherwise. The Devs haven't even acknowledged it IS a bug, only that Tanks would like to change it. Show me proof.

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This bug/exploit is listed as the number 1 BH issues....as WELL as a Dev response from Fan Fest

Care to retort?

They CAN'T call it a bug/exploit! It took me a while to figure this one out. It's like this, and TRY to pay attention as this requires thinking (YES that was an insult)...

The BEST the BH community could hope for is for the Devs to say it's not working as intended. They have done this by telling Tanks that they are aware, and it will be fixed. What's to fix if the system is working as intended? Are you calling tanks a liar? I hardly think he would remain the BH Corr for long by misquoting the Devs on the SWG public forum. As that "statement" hasn't changed for a while....I'd be willing to think it's accurate.

So that leads us to the question of WHY the Devs won't directly call it an exploit. It's all about liability. If the Devs simply refuse to "ban" players for the hundereds of instances that occur EVERYDAY for a defined exploit (per the Devs), then they would have a problem banning ANYONE for ANY exploit (Credit dupping, spawn looting, weapons looting, etc.). It's called plausible deniability....to "confirm the obvious", leaves a whole lot of other exploiters with a loop hole for precedence.

You can "play dumb if you like", you do it well....but would you REALLY look surprised if a Police Officer arrested you for hitting them JUST because they didn't tell you you couldn't? Or don't think "just makes sense" to you?

Your friend: Don't hit Cops man, they will arrest you.

You: That's not true, the Cops never told me I couldn't hit them.

*You hit a Cop*

You: Why are you arresting me? You didn't tell me I couldn't hit you, I thought my friend was talking about some OTHER Cop.



So here is the BOTTOM LINE: The Devs are NOT going to ban one single Jedi for exploiting the TEF bug....so why not just come clean and admit openly that you exploit. Isn't it more fun that way? Why not just try to improve the BH/Jedi relationship and "pass the buck"....."Yeah, I'm exploiting, and the Devs have let me do it everyday for the past 4 months." /tar BH /shrug

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Tucheck wrote:
They CAN'T call it a bug/exploit! It took me a while to figure this one out. It's like this, and TRY to pay attention as this requires thinking (YES that was an insult)...

The BEST the BH community could hope for is for the Devs to say it's not working as intended. They have done this by telling Tanks that they are aware, and it will be fixed. What's to fix if the system is working as intended? Are you calling tanks a liar? I hardly think he would remain the BH Corr for long by misquoting the Devs on the SWG public forum. As that "statement" hasn't changed for a while....I'd be willing to think it's accurate.

So that leads us to the question of WHY the Devs won't directly call it an exploit. It's all about liability. If the Devs simply refuse to "ban" players for the hundereds of instances that occur EVERYDAY for a defined exploit (per the Devs), then they would have a problem banning ANYONE for ANY exploit (Credit dupping, spawn looting, weapons looting, etc.). It's called plausible deniability....to "confirm the obvious", leaves a whole lot of other exploiters with a loop hole for precedence.

You can "play dumb if you like", you do it well....but would you REALLY look surprised if a Police Officer arrested you for hitting them JUST because they didn't tell you you couldn't? Or don't think "just makes sense" to you?

Your friend: Don't hit Cops man, they will arrest you.

You: That's not true, the Cops never told me I couldn't hit them.

*You hit a Cop*

You: Why are you arresting me? You didn't tell me I couldn't hit you, I thought my friend was talking about some OTHER Cop.



So here is the BOTTOM LINE: The Devs are NOT going to ban one single Jedi for exploiting the TEF bug....so why not just come clean and admit openly that you exploit. Isn't it more fun that way? Why not just try to improve the BH/Jedi relationship and "pass the buck"....."Yeah, I'm exploiting, and the Devs have let me do it everyday for the past 4 months." /tar BH /shrug

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Message Edited by Corvett on 06-20-2005 05:35 PM

there is no TEF its gone and even a BH can run into a private building, to regen thier health, this is not a exploit it is working as intended, TEF system is gone.