Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: BH Loot and Complaints
Tanks wrote:
Posted from my reply to another thread.
It is interesting that most people beleive that this is a zero sum game. A lot of the posts I have seen are "BHs got nice loot, it should either be nerfed or everyone should have it". - Most of the loot is for is smugglers or can be sold anyway so they will end up getting it oneway or another...I am not a big fan of BH armor just want to work on the mando so most if not all the loot I get is sold on the forms anyway,unless I can use it myself.
Excuse me, but prior to CU BHs could not solo Nightsisters, or Gorax, or Krayts or Acklayfor loot.A lot of you other combat professions could do that.Very true I picked up master Swordsman/bralwer pre-cu just to loot NS and Krayts.
I did not hear crafters complain that a Rifleman/TKM (or other templates)was able to loot any high level mob in the game prior to CU. Now that the BH NPC marks are worth doing, and loot is dropping I do not understand the complaints.If they want it that bad go BHor buy it on the forms the loot is no better than other elite mobs, and other than BH schems you can get all the loot they drop from other NPC's or Space anyway.
Heck, I saw complaints even on the Jedi forums. They seem to forget that they get a second character slot on the same server. Should we lobby for everyone to get that or have it removed? Fencers and Swordsman would love to have access to Lightsabers as well.. Again most the loot can be found on the forms so I dont get it... I have a jedi so I can loot solo other NPC's and get better loot than these guys drop! and My only complaint as a Jedi is that BH NPC mission make far better money than hunting players...I sold a WS loot for 12mil just yesterday. I like getting hunted by hunters and I have yet to have one post patch 20?
Also, a lot of the posts I have seen here give the impression that the drops are uber on a regular basis. I have run about 20 missions so far (about 5 hours). All I have gotten were Smuggler slicing components and a few BH armor schems. I have yet to loot ANY CAs. I have looted alot and I agree the best to things i got was a CA +10 rifle speed sold for 6mil, and a WS loot for guns sold for 12mil...2 nice loots out of about 40 NPC's over 2days I would say. Still pays better than hunting Jedi ( I loot for money so I dont need it but still kinda stupid IMO )
However, if people are running BH missions for HOURS at end, the law of averages will catch up and if anything is droppable, it will drop. I do not think that is bad considering the amount of time and effort involved. You got a much better return on your investment of time, and effort hunting Krayts or Nightsisters or Acklayprior to CU. You still do hunting DJK, DJM, or Arrukans missions on Talus they are the only other things droping loot thats any good with maybe a few others also...fix Krayt loot and the Jedi will stop complaning IMO...
As a player who loots alot, I would say MBH got a good sorce for money to pay for the ADK's,Guns, Armor,Food, and all the other stuff they need to hunt Jedi and thats a good thing... Its far from the best sorce of loot in the game though even in this broken loot system we got now!...
ob-gli wrote:
The drop rate cannot be compared ..sadly... out of everyone one of these npc bh missions , they all dropped atleast 1 thing worth keeping.
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Tanks wrote:
Posted from my reply to another thread.
It is interesting that most people beleive that this is a zero sum game. A lot of the posts I have seen are "BHs got nice loot, it should either be nerfed or everyone should have it".
Excuse me, but prior to CU BHs could not solo Nightsisters, or Gorax, or Krayts or Acklayfor loot.A lot of you other combat professions could do that.
I did not hear crafters complain that a Rifleman/TKM (or other templates)was able to loot any high level mob in the game prior to CU. Now that the BH NPC marks are worth doing, and loot is dropping I do not understand the complaints.
Heck, I saw complaints even on the Jedi forums. They seem to forget that they get a second character slot on the same server. Should we lobby for everyone to get that or have it removed? Fencers and Swordsman would love to have access to Lightsabers as well.
Also, a lot of the posts I have seen here give the impression that the drops are uber on a regular basis. I have run about 20 missions so far (about 5 hours). All I have gotten were Smuggler slicing components and a few BH armor schems. I have yet to loot ANY CAs.
However, if people are running BH missions for HOURS at end, the law of averages will catch up and if anything is droppable, it will drop. I do not think that is bad considering the amount of time and effort involved. You got a much better return on your investment of time, and effort hunting Krayts or Nightsisters or Acklayprior to CU.
/agreed
Adefo-Oami wrote:
ob-gli wrote:
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However, if people are running BH missions for HOURS at end, the law of averages will catch up and if anything is droppable, it will drop. I do not think that is bad considering the amount of time and effort involved. You got a much better return on your investment of time, and effort hunting Krayts or Nightsisters or Acklayprior to CU. You still do hunting DJK, DJM, or Arrukans missions on Talus they are the only other things droping loot thats any good with maybe a few others also...fix Krayt loot and the Jedi will stop complaning IMO... "
The drop rate cannot be compared ..sadly... out of everyone one of these npc bh missions , they all dropped atleast 1 thing worth keeping.
auakauns and djm consistantly drop items that instantly get deleted and serve absolutely no purpose in game what-so-ever, or in theaukaun missioncase, they drop nothing 9 out of 10 times...
Hmm, maybe that is their intention? To NOT delete loot 5 seconds after looting it? Maybe they will implement it for other proffesions soon enough? Maybe they thought that BH needed love after 2 years of crummy NPC wannabe bountys? Maybe everyone is crying nerf out of jealously?
Thats a lot of maybes...at least one of em must be true.....
maybe.. lol.
your probably right in there somewhere.
you cant neglect every other profession like they just did and expect everyone else to roll over and say "atleast bh got more content now"
provide to the masses to calm the masses...or take away from thefavoured, and face more resentment amongst all.
ob-gli wrote:
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However, if people are running BH missions for HOURS at end, the law of averages will catch up and if anything is droppable, it will drop. I do not think that is bad considering the amount of time and effort involved. You got a much better return on your investment of time, and effort hunting Krayts or Nightsisters or Acklayprior to CU. You still do hunting DJK, DJM, or Arrukans missions on Talus they are the only other things droping loot thats any good with maybe a few others also...fix Krayt loot and the Jedi will stop complaning IMO... "
The drop rate cannot be compared ..sadly... out of everyone one of these npc bh missions , they all dropped atleast 1 thing worth keeping.
auakauns and djm consistantly drop items that instantly get deleted and serve absolutely no purpose in game what-so-ever, or in theaukaun missioncase, they drop nothing 9 out of 10 times...
Then your job should be to get all these professions who don't have loot like this to scream at the developers to FIX THE LOOT TABLES. Calling for a nerf to NPC Mark Loot is counterproductive to what you are trying to achieve, Don't you see that?
Grunzer wrote:
ob-gli wrote:
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However, if people are running BH missions for HOURS at end, the law of averages will catch up and if anything is droppable, it will drop. I do not think that is bad considering the amount of time and effort involved. You got a much better return on your investment of time, and effort hunting Krayts or Nightsisters or Acklayprior to CU. You still do hunting DJK, DJM, or Arrukans missions on Talus they are the only other things droping loot thats any good with maybe a few others also...fix Krayt loot and the Jedi will stop complaning IMO... "
The drop rate cannot be compared ..sadly... out of everyone one of these npc bh missions , they all dropped atleast 1 thing worth keeping.
auakauns and djm consistantly drop items that instantly get deleted and serve absolutely no purpose in game what-so-ever, or in theaukaun missioncase, they drop nothing 9 out of 10 times...
Then your job should be to get all these professions who don't have loot like this to scream at the developers to FIX THE LOOT TABLES. Calling for a nerf to NPC Mark Loot is counterproductive to what you are trying to achieve, Don't you see that?
i never said they should nerf anything.. they should now giveEVERY profession the exact same type of missions.
Fairness & balance please , its all we ask.
oh and we have been screaming for 3 months to get our prems back... what do they do?? turn around and fix bh loot , which is a slap in the face if you ask me.
Message Edited by ob-gli on 08-07-2005 10:49 PM
ob-gli wrote:
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However, if people are running BH missions for HOURS at end, the law of averages will catch up and if anything is droppable, it will drop. I do not think that is bad considering the amount of time and effort involved. You got a much better return on your investment of time, and effort hunting Krayts or Nightsisters or Acklayprior to CU. You still do hunting DJK, DJM, or Arrukans missions on Talus they are the only other things droping loot thats any good with maybe a few others also...fix Krayt loot and the Jedi will stop complaning IMO... "
The drop rate cannot be compared ..sadly... out of everyone one of these npc bh missions , they all dropped atleast 1 thing worth keeping.
auakauns and djm consistantly drop items that instantly get deleted and serve absolutely no purpose in game what-so-ever, or in theaukaun missioncase, they drop nothing 9 out of 10 times...
i have madewell over 100million creditsoff selling loot and a good amount post-cu BH loot is good no question but you gota' pull numbers just like DJK,DJM or any other NPC that drops loot. I have done 40 missions and got 4 BH armor schems! thats a 4% chance of getting a schem, I got 1 CA from the 40 missions 1% drop rate and 1 uber WS loot for 1% ... I know both sides here so I know what i am talking about this loot is good but you gota pull numbers just like anything else.
Eutock wrote:
In over 2+ years, I have played, really played, many of the professions in this game. Artisan, Droid Engineer, Merchant, TKA, Doctor, Ranger, Swordsman, Creature Handler, Bounty Hunter, Jedi, etc. And I've always found the "us vs. them" arguments across professions totally absurd. This isn't real life, and nobody is forced into some pre-determined caste system where you can only play one chosen career as your lot in life. With the possible exception of Jedi (since the entry barrier is so high), everyone can play ALL professions as they wish by making characters in different galaxies.
The new loot system is great, thumbs up to SOE for a change.
ya about time they did somthing good for a change...CH got some love also witch was good to hear and i dont know squat about CH but i can still be happy for them that they got their professhion fixed!
That's about as silly as silly gets. I am so sick and tired of seeing people point at this or that profession and start crying because this one's better or that one gets better loot or that one shouldn't be able to beat this one or whatever the whine of the day is. BH have had an interesting alternative to hunting jedi for all of 3 days and this jedi baby is throwing a hissy fit. I'm sorry if premiums are not dropping and that's something that should get fixed but to suggest that just because everyone on the jedi forum has been throwing a tantrum that no other profession should get some positive attention is the height of selfishness. Play well with others and be happy for some of the jedi that BH's have something other to do for the time being other than hunting jedi.
ob-gli wrote:
i never said they should nerf anything.. they should now giveEVERY profession the exact same type of missions.
Fairness & balance please , its all we ask.
oh and we have been screaming for 3 months to get our prems back... what do they do?? turn around and fix bh loot , which is a slap in the face if you ask me.
Message Edited by ob-gli on 08-07-2005 10:49 PM