Bounty Hunter Archive

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Delroh wrote:

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MrSeizure wrote:

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Bastilaa wrote:

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Jeggets wrote:

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Bastilaa wrote:
To be totally honest as soon as I see a BH now I will hit Force Run, or heal out the Root (or use Ai) then its cya, chase me over the entire planet if you want to, but with zero insentive to fight even with a completed template why should I stay?

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This is why they never should have nerfed really good weapons . . . with force run around,a nice weaponwas really the only effective way to take out a jedi 1 on 1 before the jedieitherkilled the BH or ran to the nearest pool of water.

Jeggets

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I think its deeper than that, why should I stay and fight? I get nothing for fighting, no FRXp, no cash, no bonus, and added to that they have reduce my effectiveness in battle, so why stay and fight?

Message Edited by Bastilaa on 06-23-200511:18 AM

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Because it is fun? No that is silly it is more fun to run! lol

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Umm fun for who? the only person its going to be fun for is the BH, not many Jedi are going to be able to beat alot of templates at all anymore. only thing i think this may do is cause alot more 8 Man Jedi groups running around overt.

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Silly Bankie, what do you think it is they want?

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MrSeizure wrote:

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Bastilaa wrote:

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Jeggets wrote:

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Bastilaa wrote:
To be totally honest as soon as I see a BH now I will hit Force Run, or heal out the Root (or use Ai) then its cya, chase me over the entire planet if you want to, but with zero insentive to fight even with a completed template why should I stay?

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This is why they never should have nerfed really good weapons . . . with force run around,a nice weaponwas really the only effective way to take out a jedi 1 on 1 before the jedieitherkilled the BH or ran to the nearest pool of water.

Jeggets

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I think its deeper than that, why should I stay and fight? I get nothing for fighting, no FRXp, no cash, no bonus, and added to that they have reduce my effectiveness in battle, so why stay and fight?

Message Edited by Bastilaa on 06-23-200511:18 AM

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Because it is fun? No that is silly it is more fun to run! lol

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Epichistonian wrote:

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MrSeizure wrote:

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Bastilaa wrote:

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Jeggets wrote:

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Bastilaa wrote:
To be totally honest as soon as I see a BH now I will hit Force Run, or heal out the Root (or use Ai) then its cya, chase me over the entire planet if you want to, but with zero insentive to fight even with a completed template why should I stay?

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This is why they never should have nerfed really good weapons . . . with force run around,a nice weaponwas really the only effective way to take out a jedi 1 on 1 before the jedieitherkilled the BH or ran to the nearest pool of water.

Jeggets

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I think its deeper than that, why should I stay and fight? I get nothing for fighting, no FRXp, no cash, no bonus, and added to that they have reduce my effectiveness in battle, so why stay and fight?

Message Edited by Bastilaa on 06-23-200511:18 AM

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Because it is fun? No that is silly it is more fun to run! lol

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Yes... fun... it's so much fun to get negative exp and then decide to change templates. I'll run until they put us back at 1.5x more powerful than non-Jedi or remove exp loss. It is silly that you guys will be able to beat us one on one now. It's not going to come down to skill at all.... BH's will be able to heal better and faster than a Jedi and still be able to shell out the damage.

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And that's balanced.

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Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:

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Bastilaa wrote:

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REDLION78 wrote:

Just a thought....

DO NOT POP-A-GLOW STICK IN PUBLIC AND YOU WONT BE HUNTED...

Thanks... and remember, Order 66 = permadeath

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I dont but playing PvE you still can get on terms damn NPC's even after I'm forced to kill them they still manage to radio in, that for they are using the WoW ghost walking method to inform Lord Vadar. All joking aside it is very hard to stay off the terms if you want to play Jedi as a Jedi not being able to hunt with friends is a real downer, the only option is not play my jedi but pickup my rifle to hunt with friends, whilst thats great and can be done playing a jedi is what I want to do and being hunted is all part of that, all I ask is balance.

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That's by design. Can't go around robbing BH's of content. Why do you think Jedi are forced to group to get reasonable amounts of exp? Because that was an opportunity to give BH's more content. The old system just wouldn't do. You could actually advance by not getting on the terms. We can't have that. Think of the BH's.

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There is a work around for this.

All the Jedi needs to do is write a simple macro to keep them logged in during the hours they would normally be AFK so they would not get booted from the server. Keep the Jedi in a lower level of a PA hall set to private and no number of BHs will be able to get you.

It's unfortunate that this system exists at this level. It would be good to see something done to enhance BH content without being grieved by someone who's going afk in a private strutue to rob them of their content.

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Bastilaa wrote:
To be totally honest as soon as I see a BH now I will hit Force Run, or heal out the Root (or use Ai) then its cya, chase me over the entire planet if you want to, but with zero insentive to fight even with a completed template why should I stay?

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How is this any different from what you do now after your force is depleted?

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Jarred-infinity wrote:

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aekeem wrote:

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Jarred-infinity wrote:

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aekeem wrote:

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VolvoSsixtyTsix wrote:

I really don't want to see DOT wh0res come back. I hated those suckers who were hitting u once with mind fire weapons and ran till you had 0 mind, or CM/riflemen who would throw area poisons and kited you untill you are down to no mind, and did quick Head Shot 3 and sniper shot.

Message Edited by VolvoSsixtyTsix on 06-23-2005 01:14 PM

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you do realize you could have run in any direction after being stuck..... the fact that you continued to chase people until you died is rather amusing. did it ever occur to you to make a tactical decision and go ahead and turn around and let them run off? then you could have gone into some water, curing the fire and then resumed and destroyed your opponent if he was so talentless that all he did was hit you once and then run in circles. i guess that would have made too much sense though eh?

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Yes your right, dots were not overpowered and fire dots in particular were nothing. Mind telling me the real reason dot weapons wereremoved and resist packs to dot attacks were added? You are seeing only what you want to see here not what people are saying.

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ok what is he saying? i seem to see it say " I hated those suckers who were hitting u once with mind fire weapons and ran till you had 0 mind"

which to me says that this guy refused to acknowledge that he could have allowed the guy to run away and heal himself, thus making the fight a stalemate. it would appear that you in fact may be the one seeing what you want to see.

dot weapons were removed because too many people like these two posters refused to realize that they didn't have to beat everyone, also you could have picked up doctor to easily remedy your problem..........i mean on my server anyone who wanted to pvp knew they either needed doc or to be in a group in order to pvp, i guess everyone should be able to beat everyone regardless of skill level and thought put into your template and your group's templates

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Hehe your still saying that Dots were nothing even though the devs and the rest of the player base could not wait to get rid of them as they were so overpowered. Believe me, even as a M Doc/TKM a CM was overpowered. Thats not what the thread is about of course I am just amazed at how you based your argument on something that was accepted as overpowered by the devs and 99% of the playerbase back then.

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for starters, the devs don't play this game, if you can't tell that then i feel sorry for you. second of all 99% of the player base did not agree that dots were overpowered, i refuse to acknowledge that. despite the fact that i'm not arguing whether or not dots were overpowered, in the instance that i'm referring to the guy claims there were hoards of pvpers who would hit him once and then run away allowing him to be slowly killed by the dot. to that i said "if you were dumb enough to stand there and continue letting the dot tick and continue following the guy that stuck you with it, then you deserved to die" you heard "dots were nothing", which is not at all what i said, i said "if you got hit once by someone and died then you are a horrible pvper" which 99% of people would agree is true also if you were tkm/doc and you got killed by a cm 1v1 then perhaps you are a horrible pvper too

MLS / Master Healer / now = Master Doc / Swordsman. Why bother at all with Jedi grind anymore. Just do Master Doc / Swordsman and pretend your a jedi. No force to worry about. No gank squads and a little more power to boot. lol

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MasterARP wrote:
if you run it is a mission success to me--

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see, if i ran i always saw it as a success to me. I mean, i basically lost nothing, but the bh had to get my mission, find me, follow me around for nothing while i just ran away, went and used the bathroom, ate, chilled with the family, then continued the grind. If i could count the number of bh's i ran from, it would be so high, lol. My goal was always to make a bh spend as much time hunting me that i would have to spend making the xp loss up. I got so many hating me because i would just run away laughing at them that i began to rarely get hunted, got known as a "runner" (dont take his mission, he'll just run away and waste your time....)

I once made two bh chase me from the top of dantooine to the very bottom, passing my safehouses, running into cantinas, taunting them, then running out along the way.... that is what i call a victory, and they never hunted me again.

The Jedi/bh thing is often psychological.

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OberonMyx wrote:

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MasterARP wrote:
if you run it is a mission success to me--

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see, if i ran i always saw it as a success to me. I mean, i basically lost nothing, but the bh had to get my mission, find me, follow me around for nothing while i just ran away, went and used the bathroom, ate, chilled with the family, then continued the grind. If i could count the number of bh's i ran from, it would be so high, lol. My goal was always to make a bh spend as much time hunting me that i would have to spend making the xp loss up. I got so many hating me because i would just run away laughing at them that i began to rarely get hunted, got known as a "runner" (dont take his mission, he'll just run away and waste your time....)

I once made two bh chase me from the top of dantooine to the very bottom, passing my safehouses, running into cantinas, taunting them, then running out along the way.... that is what i call a victory, and they never hunted me again.

The Jedi/bh thing is often psychological.

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you missed why i said it was a success. typically i hunt pvping jedi that are knights or at finished templates. so them running is a success because they are no longer in Theed in a position to gank normal toons.

Not necessarily. Their is no point or incentive for a jedi to fight. Not everyone cares if they win or not. Some would jyst rather be doing other things. And yes...sometimes dying is inconvenient if you have other plans at the time. And yes...if they think they might loose and for whatever reasontheydon't want to, they might run. Heck, even Yoda ran and cut his losses when he didn't think he could win. better to live to fight another day. Good warriors don't fight every battle. They choose them. Generals don't send their troops into a battle they don't feel they can win unless they have no choice. Instead they retreat and regroup and try to fight the battle on their own terms. Its the nature of warfare. Only fools fight at every opportunity.

Message Edited by lesniak on 06-25-2005 02:42 AM

Right now it is fun, a good 15-20 minute fight tactics involved, a BH's higher damage vs our better healing tanking abilities, you looking to overpower us, us looking to avoid and counter.

Now that Healing is on par with that is available to every combat prof and yet our damage is still lower why would I stay and fight? fun is a good fight not a onesided affair. While the possible 5 on 1 situation exists would you stay and die just for fun? last time I checked dieing in a few seconds was not fun.

If they want to balance jedi healing with normal classes great but they need to add damage to compensate, we used to be able to fight in a long fight because we could heal up damage now that ability has been blanced but our damage output has not been balanced, if anything our one powerful attack has been nerfed.

I love BH vs Jedi encounters and I'm all for balance, what the devs have propsed is not balance

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Sounds like you are looking for a I win button. PVPing jedi have sabers that can already do 900 damage every couple seconds with master sabers and that is wothout the upcoming elemental damage fixes. Force powers and sabers are looking at cost decreases with the upcoming patch. Jedi on test center have reported a move that has a timer and has hit for upwards of 2k damage with a saber. Lightningand choke are very effective offensive weapons.

Jedi offense is not gimped the problem is all the jedi who put their skill points into defender/enhancer/healer and only take up x4x4 sabers. If I put all my skill points into TKM/Doc and novice brawler I would be offensively challenged too. The only jedi who are offensively gimped are those who dont put any skill points into offense!