Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Eliminate Jedi experience loss
swg-albert wrote:BH would be a hell of a lot more fun if Jedi would stay and fight. At this point in the game, why the hell would they. Jedi can only lose exp. They even gain more visibility from fighting.If bounties were like normal PvP, a lot more Jedi would play ball. Get rid of the exp loss. At least the Jedi doesn't lose anything, and we, the BHs, can still get the bounty without standing outside a house for two days.
No, this isnt going to happen. Surely it isnt. Bountyhunting is part of starwars. And how do you know that when there is no pay on the jedi missions people will still hunt them?
BountyHunterTHX1138 wrote:
swg-albert wrote:
BH would be a hell of a lot more fun if Jedi would stay and fight. At this point in the game, why the hell would they. Jedi can only lose exp. They even gain more visibility from fighting.
If bounties were like normal PvP, a lot more Jedi would play ball. Get rid of the exp loss. At least the Jedi doesn't lose anything, and we, the BHs, can still get the bounty without standing outside a house for two days.
No, this isnt going to happen. Surely it isnt. Bountyhunting is part of starwars. And how do you know that when there is no pay on the jedi missions people will still hunt them?
Jedi XP loss is completely independant from the amount paid out to the BH.
Domonique wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
Domonique wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
Domonique wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
_Dragonius_ wrote:
Then take away every advantage they have over us.
Have you been paying attention to how many people are killing full temps?
that doesn't imply they don't have an advantage....
What does it imply then?
that a well skilled well thought out, and well financedbh build and tactics can defeat a mediocre full templated jedi
(most of the time unbuffed, not full force while fighting something else...)
and when i say defeat, that means if the jedi actually has enough honor to finish off the fight
and this still doesn't even apply to some templates...
i'd say what the template is but the last thing i wanna do is give jedis ideas....
And a well skilled well thoughtout well financed Jedi build and tactics can defeat a mediocre full templated BH.
they will rip a bh to shreds that does is not fully knowledgable of their build
MLS/MDef kills have been claimed in increasing numbers of late. And your own corrospondant gave indication that the goal was to reduce templated Jedi to 1.0 status
mls/mdef isn't even a problem compared to some other jedi builds i've seen
there are far worse ones.... even a mls/mdef can be worn down by my build
i never said they were hard to beat
Permadeath is a dumb idea
When are you short sighted people gonna realise that if jedi arent about then there are no fun BH hunts anymore, it will be launch arak, fly launch seeker, maybe shuttle or bike, launch another seeker.
Stand and kill mark.
Oooh what fun, maybe if u had actually had to fully template a jedi u wouldnt be so quick to want permadeath
Make normal profs as hard to grind then throw in XP loss and see how long it is before u run from fights that you dont want anyway.
Yes I have fully templated my jedi and ground BH twice (first time was the hard way before JTL when there were 10 mins wait for shuttles)
So I suggest that you think about what u are suggesting before u suggest i and stop talking bollox
quitch wrote:
its also part of the BH and part of the fun sometimes to hunt. jedi needs risk to fight
and bounty hunters don't? how is that right?
I am working on my BH template now,
Hopefully they will have increased J3di XP loss by the time I Master.
Xoreshear wrote:
Hopefully they will have increased J3di XP loss by the time I Master.
OhBuggah wrote:
sure, i'd agree with the original poster if, and only if, they get brought down in power to being only 1.0 times more powerful than everyone else. they could nerf across the board all damage output on jedi by 33% and make all current premium and flawless pearls to good and quality. then it would be fair to remove XP loss.
We already are comparable to normal profs, lol. I can make a non-jedi template that is as good if not better than a like jedi version.
Non-jedi temp= 10-13mill tops.
Jedi temp: 30-36million jedi xp=about 150-180million non-jedi xp.
JoBoFedderish wrote:
I like this idea, would be a good deterrant to show off glowy types.
Given current vis rules, not really. Even if i stayed out in the wild it would eliminate me from 99% of all pve activites and pvp activities if use force.
Not to mention the far to many problems with loosing con, game crashes, and you name it which is why perma death was removed in the first place.
QStonecloud wrote:
I wish they would have kept PVE xp loss, and taken away PVP xp loss. Would have saved all the hate tells and threats to my family I have gotten. I juts like 1 on 1 pvp, i dont care if they are better. Would also have taken out alot of afk grinding. And spin groupd etc, SOE just dosent see the forest for the TREES!!!!
That is hte most HORRIBLE idea ever. You only lost xp if you cloned, and getting a rez would be a piece of cake now a days.
Aka jedi would loosing nothing.
Vcardossk wrote:
OhBuggah wrote:
sure, i'd agree with the original poster if, and only if, they get brought down in power to being only 1.0 times more powerful than everyone else. they could nerf across the board all damage output on jedi by 33% and make all current premium and flawless pearls to good and quality. then it would be fair to remove XP loss.
We already are comparable to normal profs, lol. I can make a non-jedi template that is as good if not better than a like jedi version.
Non-jedi temp= 10-13mill tops.
Jedi temp: 30-36million jedi xp=about 150-180million non-jedi xp.
You cannot make an MBH template that is "as good or better" than a Jedi template. Jedi have better weapons, better abilities, better weapons specials, better armor ... in every single way. A full template Jedi at the top of his game will always beat a bounty hunter at the top of his game.
I've heard that there are pure melee templates that can fight a Jedi to a draw, but fighting one of those guys and losing will NEVER result in XP loss.
Vcardossk wrote:
QStonecloud wrote:
I wish they would have kept PVE xp loss, and taken away PVP xp loss. Would have saved all the hate tells and threats to my family I have gotten. I juts like 1 on 1 pvp, i dont care if they are better. Would also have taken out alot of afk grinding. And spin groupd etc, SOE just dosent see the forest for the TREES!!!!
That is hte most HORRIBLE idea ever. You only lost xp if you cloned, and getting a rez would be a piece of cake now a days.
Aka jedi would loosing nothing.
Then make it if you die, they just about have a free ride now.