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Thread: Duel exploit still ruining it.

Nullified
Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:42 pm
#40

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"hey bud...you know those random people who show up, whom you don't know and/or don't like, and hang around for no apparent reason? feel free to offer them a duel....it will be a fair stakes contest....and if it turns out it's a BH, instead of the duel, you'll get a heads up....and if you thought it was a BH all along, and you were right...good for you! here's confirmation, use the information as you will."
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Please, please tell me you are kidding.

You can't ... no... no.

That is the most hillarious reinterpretation of an exploit I have EVER read.

Message Edited by Nullified on 09-06-2005 03:42 AM



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Oss_Wilum
Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:52 pm
#41






HyprHypo wrote:





MiniveNyla wrote:






Barrek wrote:


Sad to say bro (and you can get pissed at me for saying it if you want to) if it were something that hurt the Jedi rather than us........it would be fixed by now.






Yeah, like LS speed...









Is it suppose to be faster?





All of our specials except the basic saberhit are working off the saber's base speed, which in the case of post-cu sabers is around 2.3-2.6. Niether the mods in the trees nor in clothing attachments give any bonus to us ATM. combat haste only works because it's a different part of the speed equation.


you probably just don't notice it because we have 3 of the exact same special (head/body/leg hit) and only them, saberthow and powerhit are ever used, so we can alternate to compensate somewhat.


been like that since the CU





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NoStyleGuy
Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:53 pm
#42

Definition of an exploit: "using a bug or glitch in a way not as intended to alter gameplay" Well, if the Dev's said it was a Bug. (which about 20 ppl said they did) And the Inteded use of /duel wasn't to confirm weather a bounty hunter has a jedi's mission: Using /duel to confirm a bounty hunter has your mission is , by definition, an exploit, and therfore a bannable offense!



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DarthRevan88
Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:18 pm
#43

if you roll up to a bunch of jedis grinding in the middle of no were (i've done it) there gunna be suspicious already....then u get like 5 duel messages and one of them finds out..like what happend to me "bring it f*****" he said clear indication he knew and its happend to me about 4 other times



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tacwraith
Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:27 pm
#44

pick up rifleman cover.


Pick up lots of terrain negotiation tapes and enchancers so you crawl faster




Approach target to within 100m. unmount, crawl your way in while concealed.




Observe and shoot when the time is proper.




Had a BH do that to me last night. As an MBH for a year before CU (MBH/MRIFLES precu) I was seriously impressed with this guy's skill and patience.


I wasnt a tank in the group just trying to hit every single target before the spinguys killed them all (lots of tabbing i tell ya). I kept getting hit by 800 every now and then but i thought it was the creatures who had aggroed me, bit me once then got aggro again from the spinners.


Then all the sudden I saw this almost transparent green bolt hit my force armor and do the animation hit. I tried to target around but saw nobody in radar. WTH i kept thinking. Must be the lag showing my shield or something.


Its hard to believe youre being attacked when you dont SEE any dots other than the ones you're fighting up close in the radar. even spamming tab all around me got nothing.


(the guy was using conceal shot).


Then SMACK SMACK got hit by 2 sniper shots and incaped. I was lucky and managed to heal up the moment the incap timer wore off and exchanged fire with the BH (im hybrid jedi) until he withdrew, ,neither of us winning. Still /tipped him the 300k for the sheer skill and patience he showed.


a VERY cool experience. Not like MBH/MCM absurdity (and my alt is MBH/MCM lol) we getting of late.




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Nathanielstarr
Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:05 am
#45






MinnKota wrote:
:::::::::: When you find out the name of your mark /addignore him. this will prevent him from dueling you and also will prevent you from hearing his usless jedi chatter of why u beat him.




That is excellent if it works. What kind of message do they get?
WyleCoyote
Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:22 am
#46

LOL I agree,


Face it, some of you are real boinkers. Like cmon, a proton carbine or scatter equiped weapon isn't real hard to noodle through. Having bazillion buffs up doesn't mean the jedi has to be a rocket scientist to figure you out.


A blue dot driving up to your house (which is in the middle of bum fock egypt)isn't hard to conclude your a BH.


Personally, I haven't used /duel because mostly I have determined your a BH, just by looking at you. It isn't hard most of the time. Even if I haven't figured you out. If your close to me and you attack...Guess what. You're DEAD! Simply stated. If you attack a high level Jedi and you dont have the element of suprise....Guess What ! YOU"RE DEAD!


The BH's that have killed me are the ones I never saw. Or at least until they were running up to me and putting the db on me.


If you are looking for the "I WIN" button. Then I strongly suggest you learn the tatics of a real master bounter HUNTER.


Hunter....one that utilizes stealth as means to kill his prey.



Jedi can't /duel you if they dont know you exist.





HyprHypo
Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:33 am
#47



WyleCoyote wrote:

LOL I agree,

Face it, some of you are real boinkers. Like cmon, a proton carbine or scatter equiped weapon isn't real hard to noodle through. Having bazillion buffs up doesn't mean the jedi has to be a rocket scientist to figure you out.

A blue dot driving up to your house (which is in the middle of bum fock egypt) isn't hard to conclude your a BH.

Personally, I haven't used /duel because mostly I have determined your a BH, just by looking at you. It isn't hard most of the time. Even if I haven't figured you out. If your close to me and you attack...Guess what. You're DEAD! Simply stated. If you attack a high level Jedi and you dont have the element of suprise....Guess What ! YOU"RE DEAD!

The BH's that have killed me are the ones I never saw. Or at least until they were running up to me and putting the db on me.

If you are looking for the "I WIN" button. Then I strongly suggest you learn the tatics of a real master bounter HUNTER.

Hunter....one that utilizes stealth as means to kill his prey.

Jedi can't /duel you if they dont know you exist.





wow that was funny

Not every case can you prone and crawl 200m to your target, not everyone has cover. You think everyone should play the same way and leave this exploit in the game, that you say youve never used (bwahah)

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Camelz
Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:09 am
#48

This bug doesnt just affect the "jump off swoop, /underhand shot" brigade. It negates 1001 valid BH tactics. BH tactics have been reduced considerably by the terminal nerf, this exploit reduces tactics further. My favourite place to take a grinding mark was at the mission terminal, not at the lair. Now as soon as the mark gets to the outpost or whereever he knows I have his mission no matter how many people are milling about, forming groups, getting missions or buffs etc.


The reason there is a unique system message is most likely because, as usual, the "fix" for a bug was never tested properlyand the consequences were never considered before rushing it out to the huge test centre called "Live". I cant believe even the idiots at SOE would put in such a carebear "fix" on purpose to help the current crop of newbs with glowsticks.




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Midgetman690
Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:38 am
#49






Mirthain wrote:

And using a bug in an unintended fashion is called what? Exploiting.


-Talen-







so... what gives you the right to say when and where someone can chalenge you to a duel...... im a BH only ever had the /duel did to me once...... i may die they may be more powerfull but i enjoy the fight so



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HyprHypo
Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:40 am
#50



Midgetman690 wrote:


Mirthain wrote:

And using a bug in an unintended fashion is called what? Exploiting.

-Talen-




so... what gives you the right to say when and where someone can chalenge you to a duel...... im a BH only ever had the /duel did to me once...... i may die they may be more powerfull but i enjoy the fight so




eh?



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Jargal
Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:15 am
#51


I agree. if this was an exploit that would have been bad to jedi, it would have been fixed fast as h--l in a hotfix publish. (as the devs did with the BH /duel cheat)


And it is game breaking since we cant move around the mark as we want, and are supposed to be able to do!


The stalking/recon/sneaking is half the work of the hunt, and currently we cant do it!


Its really horrible that this hasnt been adressed yet, since it ha been around for months and months!!!




I say exploit report all of them using it - the trouble and overload of incoming exploit reports to CSR will get preasure on this

issue.




Message Edited by Jargal on 09-06-2005 05:17 AM



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Eleutherios
Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:20 am
#52

I love how there are people that actually defend exploits as legitimate game tactics.



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