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Thread: LOL Come ToOW BH/SL will pwn all Jedi! Revenge is OURS!

shadowdragon2k
Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:52 pm
#40


THE BAT!!!! ITS CHASEING ME!!!! *SCREAM!!!!!!*


but anyway if we get XP loss then......i want a BHRS!






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DoctorFett
Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:54 pm
#41

OMG, everybody run, SWG is being attacked by a 200ft tall Nerf Bat!!!!!!



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Nathanielstarr
Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:31 pm
#42






EvilAztec wrote:

Well now that Jedi are just glorified dual elites with psychotic xp requirements, no bonuses to speak of, and nasty penalty for no real power, I kinda expect the PB system to disappear. I mean what's the point? Jedi are not alpha anymore. BH is. Wait, that means BH might get XP loss!


Incidentally Nathaniel, Jedi, original Jedi, *warned* the devs about sticking them in the GCW. We wanted a light / dark war. We were ignored, and now we are nerfed because of it.


Kinda stupid, but the devs never listen. Oh wait I hear that nerfbat whooshing again, wonder who it's going to hit next?





Nathanielstarr wrote:





JediAsh wrote:
That would be that fastest way for the player bounty system to vanish completely. Having BH/SL and RM/SL killing whatever in 1 hit.
Would screw any type of PvP pretty badly too




It would be kinda like introducing an alpha class. Who is dumb enough to do that? ....oooooh












How are BH alpha?


Many Jedi I know claim to have never been beaten by a Bh at all and the ones that have been beaten all claim all the losses were from a non straight fight. Although I have killed quite a few they almost always tell me "you're the first to beat me". So either they are lying or you are and I'm believing the 50 or so ingame over the jedi on the forum that claim they are weak.


Nathanielstarr
Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:12 pm
#43






Phaelyn wrote:





Nathanielstarr wrote:





EvilAztec wrote:

Well now that Jedi are just glorified dual elites with psychotic xp requirements, no bonuses to speak of, and nasty penalty for no real power, I kinda expect the PB system to disappear. I mean what's the point? Jedi are not alpha anymore. BH is. Wait, that means BH might get XP loss!


Incidentally Nathaniel, Jedi, original Jedi, *warned* the devs about sticking them in the GCW. We wanted a light / dark war. We were ignored, and now we are nerfed because of it.


Kinda stupid, but the devs never listen. Oh wait I hear that nerfbat whooshing again, wonder who it's going to hit next?





Nathanielstarr wrote:





JediAsh wrote:
That would be that fastest way for the player bounty system to vanish completely. Having BH/SL and RM/SL killing whatever in 1 hit.
Would screw any type of PvP pretty badly too




It would be kinda like introducing an alpha class. Who is dumb enough to do that? ....oooooh












How are BH alpha?


Many Jedi I know claim to have never been beaten by a Bh at all and the ones that have been beaten all claim all the losses were from a non straight fight. Although I have killed quite a few they almost always tell me "you're the first to beat me". So either they are lying or you are and I'm believing the 50 or so ingame over the jedi on the forum that claim they are weak.







You mean just like the MANY BH who write that they have 100+ kills with no losses? Or the MANY BH who INSIST the only time they DO lose it's because of an exploit?


Face it, BOTH sides inflate their win/loss ratio to make themselves appear better than they are. it is literally impossible for 50 Jedi to say they are undefeated, and 50 BH to turn around and say the same if they are on the same galaxy.


Frankly, I don't believe a word I read from both Jedi AND BH both in AND out of game. I believe what I SEE. And what I see is that sometimes BH win, and sometimes Jedi do.








A BH with no losses? That would have to be a lie. I can't see that happening. You're probably right about inflated numbers but I am close friends with some of these jedi and they (some pre some post cu) scoff at bounty hunters and say they only lose when they are unprepared or in a bad position to be attacked.

Myself I think the Jedi are trying to pull a mind trick and say that Jedi are weak. The Jedi that lose are in one of four situations 1. not full template 2. in a bad position when attacked 3. not a good pvper 4. the bh is an extraordinary pvper....and alot of the time the Jedi still pulls off a win.


Jedi are still stronger if they know what they are doing. You can't grind afk, get your saber and then kill bounty hunters that have been hunting jedi since before JTL. That's what I think alot of the Jedi that complain are.

Phaelyn
Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:38 pm
#44






Nathanielstarr wrote:





Phaelyn wrote:

You mean just like the MANY BH who write that they have 100+ kills with no losses? Or the MANY BH who INSIST the only time they DO lose it's because of an exploit?


Face it, BOTH sides inflate their win/loss ratio to make themselves appear better than they are. it is literally impossible for 50 Jedi to say they are undefeated, and 50 BH to turn around and say the same if they are on the same galaxy.


Frankly, I don't believe a word I read from both Jedi AND BH both in AND out of game. I believe what I SEE. And what I see is that sometimes BH win, and sometimes Jedi do.








A BH with no losses? That would have to be a lie. I can't see that happening. You're probably right about inflated numbers but I am close friends with some of these jedi and they (some pre some post cu) scoff at bounty hunters and say they only lose when they are unprepared or in a bad position to be attacked.

Myself I think the Jedi are trying to pull a mind trick and say that Jedi are weak. The Jedi that lose are in one of four situations 1. not full template 2. in a bad position when attacked 3. not a good pvper 4. the bh is an extraordinary pvper....and alot of the time the Jedi still pulls off a win.


Jedi are still stronger if they know what they are doing. You can't grind afk, get your saber and then kill bounty hunters that have been hunting jedi since before JTL. That's what I think alot of the Jedi that complain are.






Well, discounting the Veteran (Read: PreCU) Jedi that claim that they are now weak, I would agree completely.. but I see even long time Jedi talking about their newfound lack of power.


Personally, *I* am fine with the power both my Jedi and BH have. But then again, as a Jedi, I don't duel instarports and get massive Visibility, and therefore don't get hunted. My only 3 BH attacks ended with me dead - And as I am sure you know, I fully admit I don't PvP, so that COULD explain the losses. What can NOT be explained is the ability for me to die EACH time in 3 shots exactly. But I did not, and will NEVER claim anybody was or is exploiting. I merely sent each a /tell congratulating them on their skill.


My BH on the other hand is another matter. He has a 100% win ratio - Simply because I've only hunted ONE Jedi so far (And danged if they weren't AFK in Theed Cantina).


I guess that makes me a better BH than a Jedi in some people's minds, eh?





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TechnoHic
Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:06 am
#45

Im totally irritated with the fighting on both sides. The thing is Im most disgusted still with the BHs that really want SL to make jedi hunting that easy, but then again, these are probably the same people that want to be able to kick the door down at an AFK jedi house, or end looping macros to screw everyone else just because they are inconvenienced when a jedi is AFK.


Im a BH and not a jedi and this is the way I feel. You say mickey mouse jedi but then ask for mickey mouse jedi hunting. Im assuming these are not the same BHs I knew in the beginning that dealt with master scout with survival XP and doing investigation before mounts even existed or even after mounts and vehicles, the ten minute starport waits. Those ones Im guessing are still around somewhere and realise how much better this profession is now.


Where have the real BHs gone?





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Nathanielstarr
Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:55 am
#46






JediAsh wrote:
That would be that fastest way for the player bounty system to vanish completely. Having BH/SL and RM/SL killing whatever in 1 hit.
Would screw any type of PvP pretty badly too




It would be kinda like introducing an alpha class. Who is dumb enough to do that? ....oooooh
JediGuardain3
Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:40 am
#47






crunchmalla wrote:





Reikus wrote:

I find it hard to believe that there are people like the OP. Sometimes I want to convince myself this is just a "fan the flames" post cause I don't like accepting there are so many selfish, hateful people out there.


I didn't join KOTOR Online. THis game has wayyy too many j3di. THey should all just be deleted.


What are you trying to accomplish by stating all this? Are you the type that likes to see people suffer? Do you feel special when there's no challenge for you to accomplish something? Are you the type that looks up game cheats for video games before you even open the box?


I want everyone to find a MSL and put j3di into massive xp debt. Yes, j3di ruin pvp so they should suffer. j3di are way overpowered and now they get a taste of their own medicine. This isn't a cheat, the devs wrote in these changes for MSL.


This should be fixed before it goes live. If it doesn't then it will be nerfed, which will be much worse for the BH's.


Why, because whiny overpowered j3di get a taste of their own medicine. Cry more j3di!


I'm also kinda worried over the title of the OP. Jedi are nerfed every patch, they have no content, no development, are hunted constantly and get nothing for it.What kind of "revenge" are you looking for? Can you show us on the doll where they touched you?


nerfed my *edit*. Jedi are the most powerful profession in the game. 1.5x the power of any other. let them die.






I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and call you a complete dumbass. Sure i like that SL is bein buffed up, but go take ur 60 posts elsewhere. This is why people hate the cu. Ive been playing this game since the day it came out, have more experience than you can imagine. And some noob that signed up for the forumson 9-29-05 can come in and do the FOTMtemp and kill people in 1 shot. So plz **edit** and go play WoW where idiots fit in better.









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Ekwalizer
Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:26 am
#48






Reikus wrote:

I find it hard to believe that there are people like the OP. Sometimes I want to convince myself this is just a "fan the flames" post cause I don't like accepting there are so many selfish, hateful people out there.


What are you trying to accomplish by stating all this? Are you the type that likes to see people suffer? Do you feel special when there's no challenge for you to accomplish something? Are you the type that looks up game cheats for video games before you even open the box?


This should be fixed before it goes live. If it doesn't then it will be nerfed, which will be much worse for the BH's.


I'm also kinda worried over the title of the OP. Jedi are nerfed every patch, they have no content, no development, are hunted constantly and get nothing for it.What kind of "revenge" are you looking for? Can you show us on the doll where they touched you?







I'd say 90% of end-game "content" requires at least 1 Jedi in the party for survivability.


As it stands, MBH has the most content in terms of frequency but Jedi certainly have the most in terms of variety.





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WookieOgre
Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:54 am
#49






Ekwalizer wrote:





Reikus wrote:

I find it hard to believe that there are people like the OP. Sometimes I want to convince myself this is just a "fan the flames" post cause I don't like accepting there are so many selfish, hateful people out there.


What are you trying to accomplish by stating all this? Are you the type that likes to see people suffer? Do you feel special when there's no challenge for you to accomplish something? Are you the type that looks up game cheats for video games before you even open the box?


This should be fixed before it goes live. If it doesn't then it will be nerfed, which will be much worse for the BH's.


I'm also kinda worried over the title of the OP. Jedi are nerfed every patch, they have no content, no development, are hunted constantly and get nothing for it.What kind of "revenge" are you looking for? Can you show us on the doll where they touched you?







I'd say 90% of end-game "content" requires at least 1 Jedi in the party for survivability.


As it stands, MBH has the most content in terms of frequency but Jedi certainly have the most in terms of variety.







Please enlighten me on what exact content you need a Jedi for survivability currently?


Its funny to see people post this constantly when I see the Pistoleer Correspondent show that he and a friend can kill anything in the game (both non-Jedi). But keep on believing you are all gimped and need Jedi....
ThargarOtherland
Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:05 am
#50

I personally think this is great and for only 1 reason. Now when a jedi /duel checks me he will think twice before he and all his friends come running over to me and start sending tells. I may be able to 1 shot his butt while he just runs straight up to me, giving me a clearline of sight. Andi bet a lot of those Jedis crying about this newbuff are the same ones that send /duel checks to every player around them to see if anyone has there mission.Kind of takes the fun out of hunting jedis doesnt it, so i guess it is only fair to do the same back.



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Xoreshear
Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:22 am
#51


I had SL xxx4 for awhile. I picked up x4xx for the added defenses. I like to be able to stand right in front of something and tank. I also decided to try using a template with no medic and rely on food|drink plus my defenses. Even without the revamp I have been doing great.


I have no intention of trying to use SL specials to gank Jedi. As a matter of fact I do not even view Jedi as interesting. BH was taken more or less for the loot missions, and to support|enchance M Carbineer, which it does in an outstanding manner.


I wanted to be a ranged user that wasn't a papertiger that had to kite|run all the time and with MBH M Carbineer SL x4x4, I have it.


I did the Jedi hunting thing pre-CU and in my early SWG days.

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Reikus
Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:27 am
#52






Ekwalizer wrote:





Reikus wrote:

I find it hard to believe that there are people like the OP. Sometimes I want to convince myself this is just a "fan the flames" post cause I don't like accepting there are so many selfish, hateful people out there.


What are you trying to accomplish by stating all this? Are you the type that likes to see people suffer? Do you feel special when there's no challenge for you to accomplish something? Are you the type that looks up game cheats for video games before you even open the box?


This should be fixed before it goes live. If it doesn't then it will be nerfed, which will be much worse for the BH's.


I'm also kinda worried over the title of the OP. Jedi are nerfed every patch, they have no content, no development, are hunted constantly and get nothing for it.What kind of "revenge" are you looking for? Can you show us on the doll where they touched you?







I'd say 90% of end-game "content" requires at least 1 Jedi in the party for survivability.


As it stands, MBH has the most content in terms of frequency but Jedi certainly have the most in terms of variety.








Many friends and I have finished necrosis, the hracca glade, avatar platform, the corvette, and the ryatt trail with no jedi help. Many post-CU jedi don't even handle as well in those places as regular temps and any jedi who does participate automaticaly gets a truckload of visibility, meaning it's actually detrimental for them to participate. How is any of that jedi specific content?
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