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Thread: FORCE CLOAK, MASTER TITLE NERF NEEDED
FeistySheister wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
FeistySheister wrote:
/rolleyes
here come the all or nothing extremist posters.
dammit forgot to quote. ^^thats for 'lets move everything to master boxes' guy
Message Edited by FeistySheister on 07-19-2005 04:18 PM
In the case of moving cloak to master, you may as well do that. Cloak's pretty much the only worthwhile ability in the powers tree. Move that to master, and you've moved everything worthwhile TO the master tree.
I dont think cloak is the only worthwhile ability in the powers tree. Force choke costs 50% less force than it used to and it bypasses armor. I know its not all that against other jedi, but were talking jedi v bh here. It hurts. Bad. Then again maybe its cause i was against a mpowers jedi, i dont know. Makes sense though, anything that hurts that bad (i hear its the dmg dot in the game) should belong to a master imo.
You're right. I misspoke. Choke is great. What box is that in again?
egha wrote:
man the bh's won't stop until they can have every tree nerfed, so they can have the "I win button". wont u guys just learn ur skills and use them, and stop crying.....this fourm should be called the bh crying fourm
Lol, isnt that what the Jedi did? they removed perma death by crying, removed box loss by crying, removed XP loss in PVE by crying, removed group vis by crying, removed terminal names by crying, and want to remain 1.5 stronger or more than any other combat profession.
The only "i win button" i get from nerfing (balacing) Jedi is that I can easily kill all those sucky pvpers now.
We dont want them nerfed to suckiness, nerf to balance or offer another alpha class to compete.
Absolutely NOBODY wants to see more Jedi-class professions added to the game than I do.
HyprHypo wrote:
egha wrote:
man the bh's won't stop until they can have every tree nerfed, so they can have the "I win button". wont u guys just learn ur skills and use them, and stop crying.....this fourm should be called the bh crying fourm
Lol, isnt that what the Jedi did? they removed perma death by crying, removed box loss by crying, removed XP loss in PVE by crying, removed group vis by crying, removed terminal names by crying, and want to remain 1.5 stronger or more than any other combat profession.
The only "i win button" i get from nerfing (balacing) Jedi is that I can easily kill all those sucky pvpers now.
We dont want them nerfed to suckiness, nerf to balance or offer another alpha class to compete.
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
HyprHypo wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
You have a 48m potential range advantage, and that's using one of the most powerful damaging class of weapons.
Yea well, with cloak we can never use that range, meaning Jedi will always have some type of advantage. With cloak, Jedi can get away, ALWAYS, or force us to stand there and take it, even then, if we do start to win, FR and cloak for the get away. It's lame and you can try to defend it all day, it's a pathetic skill that has no place in an online game.
That is the point of cloak. To damage us, you must stand in a range where we can attack back. Let's see, one way, the ranged person could always damage their target without a chance of them striking back. The other way BOTH sides can damage each other. Gosh.
lol, then why dont we get some uber melee defense to compete? Ohh yea we are a ranged profession that needs to stay out of range of uber melee professions. Like I said, with cloak, the jedi always has an upper hand. Back in the day, if a melee was caught 65m away, he had a rough time. If I walked into a cantina, I died in 2 hits from a TKA and thats the way it was suppose to be. This way basically forces a ranged profession to melee with a Jedi. how retarded
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
Absolutely NOBODY wants to see more Jedi-class professions added to the game than I do.
HyprHypo wrote:
egha wrote:
man the bh's won't stop until they can have every tree nerfed, so they can have the "I win button". wont u guys just learn ur skills and use them, and stop crying.....this fourm should be called the bh crying fourm
Lol, isnt that what the Jedi did? they removed perma death by crying, removed box loss by crying, removed XP loss in PVE by crying, removed group vis by crying, removed terminal names by crying, and want to remain 1.5 stronger or more than any other combat profession.
The only "i win button" i get from nerfing (balacing) Jedi is that I can easily kill all those sucky pvpers now.
We dont want them nerfed to suckiness, nerf to balance or offer another alpha class to compete.
I dont follow? I was saying a totally different type of alpha class, I dont want another Jedi class.
HyprHypo wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
Absolutely NOBODY wants to see more Jedi-class professions added to the game than I do.
HyprHypo wrote:
egha wrote:
man the bh's won't stop until they can have every tree nerfed, so they can have the "I win button". wont u guys just learn ur skills and use them, and stop crying.....this fourm should be called the bh crying fourm
Lol, isnt that what the Jedi did? they removed perma death by crying, removed box loss by crying, removed XP loss in PVE by crying, removed group vis by crying, removed terminal names by crying, and want to remain 1.5 stronger or more than any other combat profession.
The only "i win button" i get from nerfing (balacing) Jedi is that I can easily kill all those sucky pvpers now.
We dont want them nerfed to suckiness, nerf to balance or offer another alpha class to compete.
I dont follow? I was saying a totally different type of alpha class, I dont want another Jedi class.
I said Jedi-class profession, not another Jedi class.
egha wrote:
man the bh's won't stop until they can have every tree nerfed, so they can have the "I win button". wont u guys just learn ur skills and use them, and stop crying.....this fourm should be called the bh crying fourm
Oh look! A wayward jedi on our forum. Maybe he got lost from his post count grinding group, but were a helpful bunch. ![]()
Afk ryatt trail grinding ~~~~~~~~~>
<~~~~~~~~~ Dueling out in the open wherever you want
101 Excuses for why a BH that knew what they were doing beat you ~~~~~~~~~~~~>
Plenty of us know what we are doing. Oh but you guys are 'uber' when you beat us and 'nerfed' with no hope of winning when you die and lose xp. The difference between us and you is that weve been making it work with countless bugs and not being as innately strong a prof as you guys, and that kills you doesnt it? You and the rest of of the kash babies should stay out of here. Send us your level headed jedi that have been one for more than hmm well, lets say since before double xp, (im feeling generous). Then maybe we can actually discuss things instead of listening to your mindless munchkin drivel.
HyprHypo wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
HyprHypo wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
You have a 48m potential range advantage, and that's using one of the most powerful damaging class of weapons.
Yea well, with cloak we can never use that range, meaning Jedi will always have some type of advantage. With cloak, Jedi can get away, ALWAYS, or force us to stand there and take it, even then, if we do start to win, FR and cloak for the get away. It's lame and you can try to defend it all day, it's a pathetic skill that has no place in an online game.
That is the point of cloak. To damage us, you must stand in a range where we can attack back. Let's see, one way, the ranged person could always damage their target without a chance of them striking back. The other way BOTH sides can damage each other. Gosh.
lol, then why dont we get some uber melee defense to compete? Ohh yea we are a ranged profession that needs to stay out of range of uber melee professions. Like I said, with cloak, the jedi always has an upper hand. Back in the day, if a melee was caught 65m away, he had a rough time. If I walked into a cantina, I died in 2 hits from a TKA and thats the way it was suppose to be. This way basically forces a ranged profession to melee with a Jedi. how retarded
20m is not melee range.
Do you realize that BH's get more Melee defense than TKM's, who are supposed to be Melee tanks?
FeistySheister wrote:
egha wrote:
man the bh's won't stop until they can have every tree nerfed, so they can have the "I win button". wont u guys just learn ur skills and use them, and stop crying.....this fourm should be called the bh crying fourm
Oh look! A wayward jedi on our forum. Maybe he got lost from his post count grinding group, but were a helpful bunch.
Afk ryatt trail grinding ~~~~~~~~~>
<~~~~~~~~~ Dueling out in the open wherever you want
101 Excuses for why a BH that knew what they were doing beat you ~~~~~~~~~~~~>
Plenty of us know what we are doing. Oh but you guys are 'uber' when you beat us and 'nerfed' with no hope of winning when you die and lose xp. The difference between us and you is that weve been making it work with countless bugs and not being as innately strong a prof as you guys, and that kills you doesnt it? You and the rest of of the kash babies should stay out of here. Send us your level headed jedi that have been one for more than hmm well, lets say since before double xp, (im feeling generous). Then maybe we can actually discuss things instead of listening to your mindless munchkin drivel.
Bounty hunter is more powerfull now than it has ever been. It has more defense than it ever has had before.
Bounty hunter has not truely been nerfed in quite awhile. Probably since before the masterMarksman masterscout pre-reqs were dropped.
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
FeistySheister wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
FeistySheister wrote:
/rolleyes
here come the all or nothing extremist posters.
dammit forgot to quote. ^^thats for 'lets move everything to master boxes' guy
Message Edited by FeistySheister on 07-19-2005 04:18 PM
In the case of moving cloak to master, you may as well do that. Cloak's pretty much the only worthwhile ability in the powers tree. Move that to master, and you've moved everything worthwhile TO the master tree.
I dont think cloak is the only worthwhile ability in the powers tree. Force choke costs 50% less force than it used to and it bypasses armor. I know its not all that against other jedi, but were talking jedi v bh here. It hurts. Bad. Then again maybe its cause i was against a mpowers jedi, i dont know. Makes sense though, anything that hurts that bad (i hear its the dmg dot in the game) should belong to a master imo.
You're right. I misspoke. Choke is great. What box is that in again?
Do you want to flame or talk about this junk? Its my job to know what a target can do to me, not what box its in. Im guessing its a mpowers box skill fromthe sarcastic flair of your last post. You dont like that because this thread is about moving cloak to mpowers. I get it. I think the best tricks of every tree should be at master. Cloak is a nifty trick for a powers dabbler.
FeistySheister wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
FeistySheister wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
FeistySheister wrote:
/rolleyes
here come the all or nothing extremist posters.
dammit forgot to quote. ^^thats for 'lets move everything to master boxes' guy
Message Edited by FeistySheister on 07-19-2005 04:18 PM
In the case of moving cloak to master, you may as well do that. Cloak's pretty much the only worthwhile ability in the powers tree. Move that to master, and you've moved everything worthwhile TO the master tree.
I dont think cloak is the only worthwhile ability in the powers tree. Force choke costs 50% less force than it used to and it bypasses armor. I know its not all that against other jedi, but were talking jedi v bh here. It hurts. Bad. Then again maybe its cause i was against a mpowers jedi, i dont know. Makes sense though, anything that hurts that bad (i hear its the dmg dot in the game) should belong to a master imo.
You're right. I misspoke. Choke is great. What box is that in again?
Do you want to flame or talk about this junk? Its my job to know what a target can do to me, not what box its in. Im guessing its a mpowers box skill fromthe sarcastic flair of your last post. You dont like that because this thread is about moving cloak to mpowers. I get it. I think the best tricks of every tree should be at master. Cloak is a nifty trick for a powers dabbler.
That wasn't a flame. Two decent abilities in the powers tree and some people are complaining to get them moved to the master box. Someone remarks "Why don't you just move all the ability to the masters box" and you jumped on them for it. I'm pointing out that in the case of powers you may as well do just that.