Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Anonymous Mission Testing and What I Told the Devs
crowmedic
Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:58 am
#40
GeneralStatus wrote:
How do u feel like a hunter if u see a jedi in theed and run to the Bh terms and grab him mission and not even get bio sig cause u know hes in theed pvping?
crowmedic wrote:
This doesn't prevent griefing either, this will open a whole new door to griefing. Jedi, atleast on my server Gorath, are the biggest trash talkers and whiners I've ever came across. Now they will be able to openly talk smack, offer hunted jedi rides, etc without any repercussions. Sure we could randomly get them as a mark. I know this happened to me. I had a mark nearly dead and another jedi friend pulled up, picked him up and then I got a swarm a tells from the driver jedi cussing me out etc. Well I was pissed, got 4 other members in my guild to pick up the same mission and we smoke'd him. If you ask me the whiners are Jedi like that one whoare asking for it.
That is one of my problems. On Tarquinas it is a Jedi light show every night in Theed. To be honest I am totally disgusted with it and when names are removed there will be zero way to deal with this.
The Emperor is like 10 mins away from Theed in his retreat....but I guess he cant kill those Jedi since he does not know their names either.
Because you moron Jedi would never be flashing their glow sticks like that in Theed. There would be people reporting things ASAP about sighting them to the local authority. And every snitch and would be informant would be contacting local Bounty hunters telling them they have spotted a known and wanted criminal: a JEDI
GeneralStatus
Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:58 am
#41
ShaikeRamjet wrote:
GeneralStatus wrote:
Tanks wrote:
Finally got on TC to test.
I got the mission and started tracking.
When I finally got to the Jedi he was fighting Giant Worts. He was alone, but I simulated regular hunting as most will be with groups and tried to target him via tabbing.
It took me several seconds to TAB over to him. The Jedi knew I was after him before I could even target him. The smart Jedi will start running way before I would be able to target him in most situations. Now, add the fact that /duel is used almost exclusively in most situations to figure out a bounty target by the Jedi, he will know before the BHs.
We really need the Jedi name at some point in the process. The devs at the "FanFest Jedi Focus Group Session" even mentioned that the BH first strike ability makes them equal to full template Jedi in power (which is a fallacy in itself). Well, it is kinda hard to have first strikeor any kind of advantage when you have to be almost on top of the Jedi to know who he is!!!
Please make the name of the Jedi available after the Arakyd probe reports the planet location. This would resolve a lot of issues and still stop the so called griefing by gank squads, targeting specific Jedi etc., etc.
How about when u get 1k meters from your jedi is more like it. So the bounty hunter atleast gots to put some effort to hunting the jedi.
Message Edited by GeneralStatus on 07-10-200511:49 AM
Explain to me how knowing the name after the Arakyd probe reports the planet location is taking away any effort? What more effort do you want us to have? Seriously?!?! You Jedi run around effortlessly killing anything and everything just because you can. And don't even tell me that you deserve the power because you worked oh so hard for it. Double XP and respec Jedi... But when it comes to someone who may be able to take you down... you want us to have more effort!?!?! Like you did grinding Jedi on the Rryyat Trail???
Lol i am a Bounty hunter more then jedi and i know how much effort it takes to go 500m outside of a city to get the droid sent up into space.
Nyracasso
Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:58 am
#42
marc-anthony wrote:
Read Tanks post. Under the new system not knowing who your mark is and having to manually TAB like crazy to find out who it is is what causes the dead giveaway for most people.
Or... skip all that and run your cursor over the player with the big colored stick.
It takes about, what...2 seconds?
Sodan-droiddreamer
Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:05 pm
#43
Quiet420 wrote:
when I turn on the news, I rarely see "the police are looking for so and so in connection with the double blah blah blah" accompanied by a photo...
it's more often than not, a composite sketch, and an officer asking for anyone who has anyinformation regarding the incident or thepotential suspect to please call their tip line.
So we have their DNA "bio-sig" and we can use droids to track them across the universe, but we don't know their names? Right. Thanks for this 25 watt bulb suggestion. It's a very bright idea.
What I love about your suggestion is that you compare it to Real Life where people can report others, but Publish 20 will make it impossible to report anyone because, guess what Sherlock, the terminals don't have names and BHs don't know who their targets are. So even if we knew where the mark is we couldn't do anything about it.
I think you're on to something here. Unfortunately for you, it actually works against your own argument. Bake the next one fully before you let it fly out of the toaster oven. Either that or lay off the 420.
heapum
Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:05 pm
#44
If the marks name is going to be annoymous they need to visually depict who your mark is as soon as the BH approaches. Some sort of special coloring of the name or a giant a$$ arrow pointing the the jedi from the sky or somethin. Or give the BH a targeting command to /target current BH mission mark to preserve the first strike ability. Only two ideas I can come up with to preserve jedi anomety on the terms.
Hasun
Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:15 pm
#45
heapum wrote:
If the marks name is going to be annoymous they need to visually depict who your mark is as soon as the BH approaches. Some sort of special coloring of the name or a giant a$$ arrow pointing the the jedi from the sky or somethin. Or give the BH a targeting command to /target current BH mission mark to preserve the first strike ability. Only two ideas I can come up with to preserve jedi anomety on the terms.
LOL, I vote for a big lottery style hand over there head "it could be you".
Grisham
Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:16 pm
#46
heapum wrote:
If the marks name is going to be annoymous they need to visually depict who your mark is as soon as the BH approaches. Some sort of special coloring of the name or a giant a$$ arrow pointing the the jedi from the sky or somethin. Or give the BH a targeting command to /target current BH mission mark to preserve the first strike ability. Only two ideas I can come up with to preserve jedi anomety on the terms.
you do, you have a BIG BEAM OF LIGHT pointing you right to them
Tucheck
Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:24 pm
#47
Quiet420 wrote:
Tanks wrote:
Finally got on TC to test.I got the mission and started tracking.When I finally got to the Jedi he was fighting Giant Worts. He was alone, but I simulated regular hunting as most will be with groups and tried to target him via tabbing.It took me several seconds to TAB over to him. The Jedi knew I was after him before I could even target him. The smart Jedi will start running way before I would be able to target him in most situations. Now, add the fact that /duel is used almost exclusively in most situations to figure out a bounty target by the Jedi, he will know before the BHs.We really need the Jedi name at some point in the process. The devs at the "FanFest Jedi Focus Group Session" even mentioned that the BH first strike ability makes them equal to full template Jedi in power (which is a fallacy in itself). Well, it is kinda hard to have first strike or any kind of advantage when you have to be almost on top of the Jedi to know who he is!!!Please make the name of the Jedi available after the Arakyd probe reports the planet location. This would resolve a lot of issues and still stop the so called griefing by gank squads, targeting specific Jedi etc., etc.
tanks, with all due respect...
play your profession....you saw what happened to the unfortunate Bounty Hunter who attempted to take Han on first contact....make your pass, bide your time, and hit your mark when your ready.
yes, they may know you have their mission, but they do not choose when you strike.
Or if we strike at ALL...
I really hope for the sake of the Jedi profession (and YES, I do mean this) that the Devs don't base FRS on a co-dependant relationship with the MBH profession, when the BH profession stands very little chance of winning most encounters. It won't take us long to grown content with the idea that it will simply take longer to find a Jedi that is a "fair" fight. You want FRS...fine, but don't base it on MY death, because you WILL end up "unranked". There is no sense in dying in order to simply make your enemy even stronger the NEXT time you meet.
Hasun
Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:24 pm
#48
Grisham wrote:
Grisham wrote:
heapum wrote:
If the marks name is going to be annoymous they need to visually depict who your mark is as soon as the BH approaches. Some sort of special coloring of the name or a giant a$$ arrow pointing the the jedi from the sky or somethin. Or give the BH a targeting command to /target current BH mission mark to preserve the first strike ability. Only two ideas I can come up with to preserve jedi anomety on the terms.
you do, you have a BIG BEAM OF LIGHT pointing you right to them
not to mention you also have their name in red like you do now.
the name or dot doesn't turn red till we attack, i'm glad your posting your knowledge of our profession, your just helping strengthen our arguement and our case
Sodan-droiddreamer
Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:32 pm
#49
The Jedi name problem is not limited to the difficulty in targeting the mark once you find them. It's also that you can't do any investigation in advance before you approach the Jedi. Finding info on your mark, studying their movement patterns and safe houses and other such techniques are the hallmark of a great BH. This Publish takes the "stalk" out of the Stalker title.
heapum wrote:
If the marks name is going to be annoymous they need to visually depict who your mark is as soon as the BH approaches. Some sort of special coloring of the name or a giant a$$ arrow pointing the the jedi from the sky or somethin. Or give the BH a targeting command to /target current BH mission mark to preserve the first strike ability. Only two ideas I can come up with to preserve jedi anomety on the terms.
Tracking down and hunting specific Jedi is a exciting part of the game. On my server, hunting the Jedi of certain guilds is quite common and a great part of the GCW. A Jedi that gets on the terms is a Jedi that is being careless and allowed themselves to be spotted. They should be hunted by name. Under Publish 20, grouped Jedi won't get visibility from their group members. The Jedi are the ones being hunted, the burden should be on them to hide and avoid being spotted. Publish 20 gives them an awesome tool fotr that. But, no, Jedi just want to run around with impunity and no consequences. Someone in this thread suggested earlier PvPing Jedi in Theed should not be hunted. What is up with that?
Zorron
Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:57 pm
#50
Tanks wrote:
Finally got on TC to test.
I got the mission and started tracking.
When I finally got to the Jedi he was fighting Giant Worts. He was alone, but I simulated regular hunting as most will be with groups and tried to target him via tabbing.
It took me several seconds to TAB over to him. The Jedi knew I was after him before I could even target him. The smart Jedi will start running way before I would be able to target him in most situations. Now, add the fact that /duel is used almost exclusively in most situations to figure out a bounty target by the Jedi, he will know before the BHs.
We really need the Jedi name at some point in the process. The devs at the "FanFest Jedi Focus Group Session" even mentioned that the BH first strike ability makes them equal to full template Jedi in power (which is a fallacy in itself). Well, it is kinda hard to have first strikeor any kind of advantage when you have to be almost on top of the Jedi to know who he is!!!
Please make the name of the Jedi available after the Arakyd probe reports the planet location. This would resolve a lot of issues and still stop the so called griefing by gank squads, targeting specific Jedi etc., etc.
Your conclusion, that the name should begiven after the Arakyd reports the planet location, does not follow directly from your observations.Giving the name so soon would certainly bring back the bottom feeding, and maybe even more bad things that this patch stamps out. A proper conclusion from your observations, that fixes the problem you are referring to without breaking anything else, is that the name should be given when you are within 500m of your mark's waypoint. That's still outside radar range so you continue exploiting server lag to make the most of your first strike, butbecause you're only minutes away from attacking, you are still tempted to go for it instead of dropping the mission (aka bottom feeding).
aekeem
Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:57 pm
#51
GeneralStatus wrote:
We people drop downto the idiots level that try to protest against the changes cause they want it easy, cause once again they are lazy and pathetic.
ok you've got to either be from russia, 5 years old, or retarded. you jedi are getting visibility basically turned off, and you say because we want to know a jedi's namewe are "lazy and pathetic"
also if you would, please stop posting, everyone's iq drops about 2 points each time you post, or if you can't stop, please move your ridiculously stupid posts to the jedi forum where they will be praised and admired
BobaFettRules
Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:57 pm
#52
quiet, the BH that went after Han Solo was Greedo, and in that movie that is supposed to be real, so Han solo cant force run and hide in his house, and then logout, so Most bounty hunters dont really have all day to come up with a great plan