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Thread: Do NOT let people tell you that MBH / MCM is overpowered!

Fugitron
Sat Aug 27, 2005 11:49 am
#40






JoBoFedderish wrote:
And the nerfs go on.....again when will jedi quit screaming for nerfs of other profs and actually learn theirs? Look I can stand against jedi for 45 minutes and Im a MBH/MP not MCM, let me guess jedi are gonna scream for even more nerfs on those profs next?






Who is screaming? I was making a point that those two things are unbalanced (not just with jedi but the GAME). I have no problem otherwise. Its not like I have ever lost to a BH.








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JoBoFedderish
Sat Aug 27, 2005 11:55 am
#41

Its not like I have ever lost to a BH.

Jedi crack me up, "I have never lost to a BH but I think they are unbalanced". Where is the unbalance if you are never defeated by one of us? Seems to me jedi want everything and wish to risk nothing....do us all a favor (including yourselves) quit demanding nerfs on other profs and concentrate on your own back yard.



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SamousNemo
Sat Aug 27, 2005 2:54 pm
#42






Spookibus wrote:

In particular, I find fighting Jedi with a lot of Powers in their template extremely difficult, much more so than even the MDEF types. Master Powers have a lot of tricks at their disposal, some of which bypass armor and, if used properly, make CM debuffs like Thyroid Rupture all but useless.



Too bad Powers x4xx makes all BH templates useless as well




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scoodoobydoo
Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:03 pm
#43



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xur-soma
Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:17 pm
#44






Fugitron wrote:
The ONLY problem I have (and I am an old-timer MLS/Mdef with a 671 DPS Saber) with the MBH/MCM combo is the -40 speed debuff, and the amount they can heal per second. It gets a tad ridiculous. I say balance the debuff the same as the doc buff (-25) and slow the healing just a tad, maybe just one second.





I have a jedi and a BH and that a -40 speed is fine! they already reduced the time of it they dont need to touch the amount. if it was -25 it would be of no use? its somthing that non jedi can get that is a pain for jedi and jedi need to learn how deal with it imo. If a jedi has fprce speed 2 and most do the de-buff only becomes -15 a jedi should be able to over come that I know i can with mine I have every time so far... I love people that have the skill in most cases they are not an easy target because it takes the away the one big + of a jedi their speed!


Thyroid Rupture is fine as is no reason to change it!





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xur-soma
Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:24 pm
#45






JoBoFedderish wrote:
Mdef are my bane to exsistance! As a MBH/MP/cm4xxx I use the best armor, weapons, PSGs, foods, buffs ect and still cant figure out how to take one of these down. Seems I can hit for enough DMG to really put a hurting on them even after 20-30 minutes.





i have killed more than one MD and made alot more run away at the end of the fight...one was a MP/MD3000 healer 0002 Ehancerbuild and cloaked at the end to get away after using a holo and AI 2 times


I have a temp close to yours MP/MBH 0004 CM you can do it for sure MD's i like in that they normanly always fight you and not run away like little girls and cloak but they typicaly can take 20min + to kill....





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OhBuggah
Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:35 pm
#46

the strength of thyroid rupture is fine, but the duration is a bit too long. they should reduce it to 30-60 seconds.
Ephrath
Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:53 pm
#47

I dont have time to read this entire thread so I'll just say my piece.


I am MBH/MCM/Carbs 4000/medic 0410. I chose this cause my carbs speed is really poor. My carbine is an average high end non-uber carbine. (400-1000 damage or so, 2.something speed, 320 base dps.) I cannot afford uber equipment so this is what I'm using. I am noob MBH so just took on my first 2 Jedi marks. The first was a Jedi Knight and killed me in about 10 seconds and the other was still grinding and it took a couple minutes for him to kill me. The point being, just becuase you have this template does not mean you are suddenly a Jedi killer and unstoppable. It takes time, practice and cloning to make this work. So, I gues my point is if you think this template makes an "i win" button it does not. But with work you can learn to use it well.





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Fugitron
Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:10 am
#48






JoBoFedderish wrote:
Its not like I have ever lost to a BH.

Jedi crack me up, "I have never lost to a BH but I think they are unbalanced". Where is the unbalance if you are never defeated by one of us? Seems to me jedi want everything and wish to risk nothing....do us all a favor (including yourselves) quit demanding nerfs on other profs and concentrate on your own back yard.






Like BH's have something to rant about... risk nothing? BS. If you lost xp or even MONEY from losing to us THEN you would have room to talk, and don't give me that "BH's have to spend "blank" amount on equipment"... do you think a good saber is cheap or easy to create AND EQUIP? Yea I have never lost - its cause I am experienced in PvP and know what I'm doing. Plus I have good attachments and a above average saber. So yea, me losing would indeed be upsetting. Yet you think everyone is like me? Rash overgeneralization. No one BUT YOU is demanding anything "devs need to focus on this and this and gimme my own server!" Why don't you stop complaining and play the game for FUN.








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JoBoFedderish
Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:13 am
#49

I feel your anger...LOL...Hey Im asking for a jedi-free server as are MANY in SWG. Get over yourself jedi, not everyone wants to be a jedi or jedi content but thanks for posting.



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Cpl_Fisher
Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:17 am
#50






Tanks wrote:

In most cases it comes down to knowing your template AND being prepared. There are a lot of MBH/MCM BHs out there that do not know what they are doing or lacking in preparation. Heck, it took me a while to learn to play that template on an alt way before it became FOTM.


There are also a lot Jedi that also do not know how to play their template. When both parties know their templates is when the fun starts (if you call a 45 min fight fun ).








3 hours, over half of Naboo, on foot.....

in the end we just said this is pointless....



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JoBoFedderish
Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:18 am
#51

3 hours! We called it a draw after 45 minutes.....congrats ( I think) on sticking it out so long.



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Mythrindir
Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:20 am
#52

its not the template its if the person knows how to play it. Personally master enhancers are what screw me most...A skilled menhance can be postiively brutal if they use their template to the fullest. Mcm can be very effective but its not the template alone...you have to know how to use it, not just push things randomly and hope to be uber.




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